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Why only Human?

Débuté par pmaura , juil. 24 2010 05:34

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#26
RavenStorm
Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:14

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http://games.on.net/...Whats_in_a_name

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Rogue Unit
Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:17

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RavenStorm wrote...

http://games.on.net/...Whats_in_a_name


Ha! Thats good.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:20

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RavenStorm wrote...

http://games.on.net/...Whats_in_a_name


Hahaha :lol:

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:20

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RavenStorm wrote...

http://games.on.net/...Whats_in_a_name

Completely misses the point. We are not playing simulation of reality, but an RPG game. Customisation of race, name, class is VERY expected.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:21

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Kordaris wrote...

RavenStorm wrote...

http://games.on.net/...Whats_in_a_name

Completely misses the point. We are not playing simulation of reality, but an RPG game. Customisation of race, name, class is VERY expected.


I find your lack of humor....disturbing.

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Rogue Unit
Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:23

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Kordaris wrote...

RavenStorm wrote...

http://games.on.net/...Whats_in_a_name

Completely misses the point. We are not playing simulation of reality, but an RPG game. Customisation of race, name, class is VERY expected.


That is a joke.:mellow:

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:23

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Saibh wrote...

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Kordaris wrote...
The name sounds so out of place and I feel no connection to the character whatsoever.


Why should you feel connected to a character you haven't even played yet? Jump the gun much?

As for the name, it's no worse than Cousland.


Well, while I disagree with the Cousland bit, I agree that we know next to nothing about this game.

Besides. Hawke is an old English surname.

Hawke is fine, and even Cousland is a real village in Scotland... as is Kirkwall (Orkney islands). These names fit the DA setting so are no worse than each other.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:33

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Hawke is an awful name, very common and silly for a hero. Nothing about it speaks about heroism or fantasy.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:35

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Hawke's name is no more predefined than any of the Origins in DAO - the surname was built in and you decide the given name. There is nothing particularly good or bad about the name Hawke - it is a name, and Bioware has decided that it fits the world they created.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:36

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Kordaris wrote...

Hawke is an awful name, very common and silly for a hero. Nothing about it speaks about heroism or fantasy.



Everything in bold are opinions. Not facts.

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Ponce de Leon
Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:37

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Well, focusing on one single "origin" can make it much better and the character itself with better backgrounds. Sure, you'll lack some replayability options (That isn't necessarily true!) but I take better story to replayability any day of my life I guess.

On a side note, you can think of Hawke as the missing seventh origin story in Dragon Age Origins. Just that... Duncan doesn't recruit him (which could by the way, also be some kind of a relation point. You are a candidate as a warden recruit, but fail at impressing Duncan. For example at least) .

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:46

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Well, focusing on one single "origin" can make it much better and the character itself with better backgrounds. Sure, you'll lack some replayability options (That isn't necessarily true!) but I take better story to replayability any day of my life I guess.

You  actually lose a lot of playability options with the reduction of origins choices. And to be honest, Hawke's is presented as such a cheesy hero that he is very unattractive.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 08:50

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my fear is that we not only aren't going to get a longer game due to the absence of origins, but to the addition of losing them, the game will be shorter as well

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Ponce de Leon
Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 09:49

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Length can depend largely on playing style. as an example, my first Dragon Age Origins run took me 25 hours to complete. Which is incredibly below average. My first ME2 run took me 35 hours to complete. Which is somewhat ABOVE average.

IF Dragon Age 2, along with the story, gives a thriving exploration system, with a lot of wilderness areas without a direct quest impact, like worlds on ME1 and 2, or areas in Baldur's Gate 1, the gameplay might even benefit from it largely even if there is no actual story with it.

So it depends how the game will be done.

As said, sure, only having a human, with a pre-kit (I get it) part of a story (big part in fact) can be quite limiting. But let's not forget we know next to nothing about Hawke. His/her motives, ways, character in general, and especially the options the game will offer us. I am possibly the biggest pessimist when it comes to Dragon Age 2 (because of Hawke partially), but I get some hope in the fact I know nothing about the game... yet.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 09:52

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dark-lauron wrote...

IF Dragon Age 2, along with the story, gives a thriving exploration system, with a lot of wilderness areas without a direct quest impact, like worlds on ME1 and 2, or areas in Baldur's Gate 1, the gameplay might even benefit from it largely even if there is no actual story with it.

The game is going to be more combat orientated so  I really doubt they are going to take the exploration route.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 10:24

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I find it funny how nobody ever moaned about Planescape: Torment where there were no origins and you were forced to play a human MALE protagonist with a premade face (plus you couldn't change armor/clothing). People still say it's a hardcore true RPG

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 11:03

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I find it funny how nobody ever moaned about Planescape: Torment where there were no origins and you were forced to play a human MALE protagonist with a premade face (plus you couldn't change armor/clothing). People still say it's a hardcore true RPG

Sure, Planescape Torment was stand alone game. It would be different if you started Planescape:Beginning with ability to choose from seven different characters and different background. Then promised a sequal of that game, and were given only one character you had to play.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 11:16

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 11:17

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Kordaris wrote...

RavenStorm wrote...

http://games.on.net/...Whats_in_a_name

Completely misses the point. We are not playing simulation of reality, but an RPG game. Customisation of race, name, class is VERY expected.

+1

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 11:17

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Kordaris wrote...

Completely misses the point. We are not playing simulation of reality, but an RPG game. Customisation of race, name, class is VERY expected.


Good to know the Witcher isn't an RPG (must be a male with fixed name). And that neither is Vampire the Masquerade: Boodlines (must be a vampire).

Which other RPGs should I knock off?

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 11:17

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Querne wrote...

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Werent you a "peasant" in 4/6 of the origins?


Peasent Cousland? Peasant Daelish? Peasant noble Dwarf?

Shortly: No.


Peasant Grey Warden.

Shortly: Yes.

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 11:19

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Good to know the Witcher isn't an RPG (must be a male with fixed name)

Ughhh how I dislike the pompous Witcher. But this is a specific case about a game based on a specific character already written about in a book(only the short stories are good though).

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 11:20

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In Exile wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Completely misses the point. We are not playing simulation of reality, but an RPG game. Customisation of race, name, class is VERY expected.


Good to know the Witcher isn't an RPG (must be a male with fixed name). And that neither is Vampire the Masquerade: Boodlines (must be a vampire).

Which other RPGs should I knock off?


the issue is that there was no first game in which character costumization existed and was in the sequel taken out, because of this both your examples are wrong

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Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 11:21

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In Exile wrote...

Querne wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

Werent you a "peasant" in 4/6 of the origins?


Peasent Cousland? Peasant Daelish? Peasant noble Dwarf?

Shortly: No.


Peasant Grey Warden.

Shortly: Yes.


No. My peasent Cousland was reknown as such.

#50
Querne
Posté 24 juillet 2010 - 11:23

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In Exile wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Completely misses the point. We are not playing simulation of reality, but an RPG game. Customisation of race, name, class is VERY expected.


Good to know the Witcher isn't an RPG (must be a male with fixed name). And that neither is Vampire the Masquerade: Boodlines (must be a vampire).

Which other RPGs should I knock off?


Witcher is based on a book about.. guess yourself.
Wonder why we could choose anything but beeing a Dragon in Dragon Age..What a nonsense.
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