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[Biotic Budah]

Ah, but lets not forget. Alistar IS a warden. That means he is destined for the deep roads. Perhaps he wants to have one last hurrah, or perhaps he is too stubborn to go to the deep roads and becomes a ghoul that needs to be dealt with. That is providing you let him live in one of your play throughs.



Also, our warden disappeared. Be it with in Witch hunt or on an adventure with Leiliana. Could they unite and if so for what purpose? Will be interesting to see.

[Zeleen]

Biotic Budah wrote...

Ah, but lets not forget. Alistar IS a warden. That means he is destined for the deep roads. Perhaps he wants to have one last hurrah, or perhaps he is too stubborn to go to the deep roads and becomes a ghoul that needs to be dealt with. That is providing you let him live in one of your play throughs.

Also, our warden disappeared. Be it with in Witch hunt or on an adventure with Leiliana. Could they unite and if so for what purpose? Will be interesting to see.

oooo sounds like maybe DragonAge 3

[TK2121]

But the Warden doesn't have to disappear. If you become King/Queen, and don't go with Morrigan then you'll still be around.

[augustburnt]

Alistair was funny, same with Zevran, hope they both return

[SgtElias]

Biotic Budah wrote...

Ah, but lets not forget. Alistar IS a warden. That means he is destined for the deep roads. Perhaps he wants to have one last hurrah, or perhaps he is too stubborn to go to the deep roads and becomes a ghoul that needs to be dealt with. That is providing you let him live in one of your play throughs.

Also, our warden disappeared. Be it with in Witch hunt or on an adventure with Leiliana. Could they unite and if so for what purpose? Will be interesting to see.

Did everyone's Warden disappear? Technically, if the epilogue is to be believed, mine disappeared with Alistair, so . . .?

Also, unless he's got some seriously bad mojo, Alistair shouldn't have to deal with his Calling for another 10-20 years after Dragon Age 2 ends, I think. I thought that Wardens remained Wardens around 30 years before finally being devoured by the taint?

Hm. Of course, it's late (for me!), and it's possible I just made that number up.

[errant_knight]

Biotic Budah wrote...

Ah, but lets not forget. Alistar IS a warden. That means he is destined for the deep roads. Perhaps he wants to have one last hurrah, or perhaps he is too stubborn to go to the deep roads and becomes a ghoul that needs to be dealt with. That is providing you let him live in one of your play throughs.

Also, our warden disappeared. Be it with in Witch hunt or on an adventure with Leiliana. Could they unite and if so for what purpose? Will be interesting to see.

He has 30 years. At the beginning of DA2, he'll be about half a year or a little more into it--a little more than ten by the end of the game He'll still have more than half his life ahead of him, so the calling has exactly zero effect here. Although the 'That is providing you let him live in one of your play throughs' tells me that you already knew that. 

Oh, I see that SgtElias already pointed this out.

Modifié par errant_knight, 19 octobre 2010 - 06:08 .

[Saerwen]

I KILLED Morrigan..... well one time, so ,my warden didn't disapear.... and please let Ali return. Would love to see him in a tavern telling drunken war stories, and sobbing into his ale.

And yes I think it is around 30 years for the taint, although Duncan was going a bit sooner, I believe according to the books... but it was probably sped up due to the blight etc.

Dragon Age 3: Return of the Hero of Ferelden.... and we all lean on our walking sticks, I mean aim our pointy sticks into the darkspawn horde... fueled by the DEMON NON CANON dark ritual baby that some of us did not choose to father/put Alistair and/or Loghain to father. DOOM DOOOM DOOOOOM.

Starts epic CGI and  MUSIC

In walks Alistair with perfect hair, and quirked lip.... ok am all tapped out

Modifié par Saerwen, 19 octobre 2010 - 06:07 .

[errant_knight]

TK2121 wrote...

But the Warden doesn't have to disappear. If you become King/Queen, and don't go with Morrigan then you'll still be around.

Yep, my warden didn't go anywhere. Lots of wardens didn't go anywhere. Well, there was that crappy slide at the ending of Awakening, but I'm pretty sure that was meant to lead into an expansion that never happened, which was probably also supposed to explain the peculiarly abrupt ending to Awakening.

[Addai]

Biotic Budah wrote...

Ah, but lets not forget. Alistar IS a warden. That means he is destined for the deep roads. Perhaps he wants to have one last hurrah, or perhaps he is too stubborn to go to the deep roads and becomes a ghoul that needs to be dealt with. That is providing you let him live in one of your play throughs.

As has already been pointed out, 10 years is a bit short a time span for ghoul Alistair to be walking around.

Also, our warden disappeared. Be it with in Witch hunt or on an adventure with Leiliana. Could they unite and if so for what purpose? Will be interesting to see.

My Wardens aren't going anywhere with those chicas.  Not sure who you're talking about.  <_<

[Zjarcal]

Addai67 wrote...

Biotic Budah wrote...
Also, our warden disappeared. Be it with in Witch hunt or on an adventure with Leiliana. Could they unite and if so for what purpose? Will be interesting to see.

My Wardens aren't going anywhere with those chicas.  Not sure who you're talking about.  <_<

LOL!!

Talk about ignoring other people's choices. (Budah, that is, not you Addai)

Modifié par Zjarcal, 19 octobre 2010 - 06:41 .

[Fault Girl]

errant_knight wrote...

TK2121 wrote...

But the Warden doesn't have to disappear. If you become King/Queen, and don't go with Morrigan then you'll still be around.

Yep, my warden didn't go anywhere. Lots of wardens didn't go anywhere. Well, there was that crappy slide at the ending of Awakening, but I'm pretty sure that was meant to lead into an expansion that never happened, which was probably also supposed to explain the peculiarly abrupt ending to Awakening.

Thats what I'm guessing, my warden just goes off, not even with her husband..

[Ymladdych]

ZombieGeisha wrote...
Thats what I'm guessing, my warden just goes off, not even with her husband..

Not to be a downer, but I tend to think they're not going to undo the Warden's disappearance, because I get the feeling it's a plot point *now*, regardless of its original purpose.  The mirror is just one possible reason for it; I'm thinking Flemeth is the other possible reason.  (And yes, The Reason may not have a pretty or definitive conclusion, but I think it'll provide sufficient justification for the Warden's egress.)

[Brockololly]

My thinking is that the Warden disappearing is a plot point that will be dealt with- I think Gaider said as much in some thread. The fact that Alistair can disappear along with the Warden makes me think its something "Wardenly" they may be off to- not the Calling though, cause killing off your PC off screen like that would be laaaaaame.

It might fit into the stuff that Morrigan tells you at the end of Witch Hunt, that the Wardens at large need to be wary of the change to come and that Flemeth played a larger role in the Blight than is realized. So having all the Wardens disappear (including Alistair) might free them up to return on more or less the same page in some future game. Or at least thats my hope.

Modifié par Brockololly, 19 octobre 2010 - 03:13 .

[Wulfram]

I think they're much better off staying as far away from the Warden's future as possible

[errant_knight]

Ymladdych wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...
Thats what I'm guessing, my warden just goes off, not even with her husband..

Not to be a downer, but I tend to think they're not going to undo the Warden's disappearance, because I get the feeling it's a plot point *now*, regardless of its original purpose.  The mirror is just one possible reason for it; I'm thinking Flemeth is the other possible reason.  (And yes, The Reason may not have a pretty or definitive conclusion, but I think it'll provide sufficient justification for the Warden's egress.)

I'd not sure that it can actuactually be said that they made the warden disappear at all. For one thing, end slides are variable, different people get different ones--not all warden's disappear, Alistair doesn't always go to Weisshaupt, etc. And not everyone buys DLC its and 'extra', so they can't really say to people 'this is what happened to your warden, you just didn't play it.'

They can say that anything happened that they want, for any reason, at any time--it's their game. But saying that it's because of a choice you never made in a game or in a DLC you didn't buy.... That wouldn't be so good.

Modifié par errant_knight, 19 octobre 2010 - 03:21 .

[errant_knight]

Brockololly wrote...

My thinking is that the Warden disappearing is a plot point that will be dealt with- I think Gaider said as much in some thread. The fact that Alistair can disappear along with the Warden makes me think its something "Wardenly" they may be off to- not the Calling though, cause killing off your PC off screen like that would be laaaaaame.

It might fit into the stuff that Morrigan tells you at the end of Witch Hunt, that the Wardens at large need to be wary of the change to come and that Flemeth played a larger role in the Blight than is realized. So having all the Wardens disappear (including Alistair) might free them up to return on more or less the same page in some future game. Or at least thats my hope.

That would be something pretty big that made the king take off without a word to go be a warden. I never tied that to Morrigan's statement in witch hunt before. I find myself intrigued!

And to pull this back to DA2... Wonder if Flemeth will meet Alistair and have anything to say about them killing her (if she was killed in one's game). It's usually Alistair who's gotten the deed done in my games.

Modifié par errant_knight, 19 octobre 2010 - 03:28 .

[Brockololly]

errant_knight wrote..

That would be something pretty big that made the king take off without a word to go be a warden. I never tied that to Morrigan's statement in witch hunt before. I find myself intrigued!

Its when you go through Witch Hunt as an Orlesian that Morrigan actually says that stuff about Flemeth and telling the Orlesian to go and tell the Wardens to be wary of the change to come.

Even if he is King, Alistair technically is still a Warden, right? So presumably if something super duper important was brewing, like Flemeth up to something or whatever that Change is, he could take off- Maric did as much in The Calling for lesser reasons.

errant_knight wrote..
And to pull this back to DA2... Wonder if Flemeth will meet Alistair and have anything to say about them killing her (if she was killed in one's game). It's usually Alistair who's gotten the deed done in my games.

That would be interesting...Can't imagine Flemeth would be too happy.

Modifié par Brockololly, 19 octobre 2010 - 03:35 .

[Addai]

errant_knight wrote...

That would be something pretty big that made the king take off without a word to go be a warden. I never tied that to Morrigan's statement in witch hunt before. I find myself intrigued!

Following in the footsteps of dear old dad.

@Brock, Maric's reasons for going off were pretty important too.  I mean his kingdom reasons, not his personal ones.  Don't want to spoiler or divert too much though.

[Ymladdych]

Modifié par Ymladdych, 28 septembre 2011 - 01:18 .

[TK2121]

But they can also say the Queen returned after a year or so. Hmm, now I sort of want to start my Awaken File over so my character doesn't disappear because that's a horribly vague ending for a character.



I don't know. It's not that I want a fairy tale ending, heck not sure I want an ending at all but I definitely don't want "They disappeared" since that makes no sense whatsoever. And you shouldn't be cheated out of a better role for your character because you choose to buy the DLCs...

[Melca36]

Ymladdych wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...
Thats what I'm guessing, my warden just goes off, not even with her husband..

Not to be a downer, but I tend to think they're not going to undo the Warden's disappearance, because I get the feeling it's a plot point *now*, regardless of its original purpose.  The mirror is just one possible reason for it; I'm thinking Flemeth is the other possible reason.  (And yes, The Reason may not have a pretty or definitive conclusion, but I think it'll provide sufficient justification for the Warden's egress.)

Gaider did not rule out the possibility that we might see our Wardens again...one day. He said that several podcasts ago.

[danitza81]

Brockololly wrote...

My thinking is that the Warden disappearing is a plot point that will be dealt with- I think Gaider said as much in some thread.

He did say it. I specifically asked if we would ever know why our Wardens disappeared and he said we would, but not anytime soon. He also said that we shouldn't expect complete answers, which put me off a little... but to be fair I can't remember if the advice was not to expect complete answers *anytime soon* or at all.

[Dave of Canada]

danitza81 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

My thinking is that the Warden disappearing is a plot point that will be dealt with- I think Gaider said as much in some thread.

He did say it. I specifically asked if we would ever know why our Wardens disappeared and he said we would, but not anytime soon. He also said that we shouldn't expect complete answers, which put me off a little... but to be fair I can't remember if the advice was not to expect complete answers *anytime soon* or at all.

Did he say it before or after Witch Hunt? I can understand the disappearence for some Wardens (gone with Morrigan).

[stonemyst]

Brockololly wrote...

errant_knight wrote..

That would be something pretty big that made the king take off without a word to go be a warden. I never tied that to Morrigan's statement in witch hunt before. I find myself intrigued!

Its when you go through Witch Hunt as an Orlesian that Morrigan actually says that stuff about Flemeth and telling the Orlesian to go and tell the Wardens to be wary of the change to come.

Even if he is King, Alistair technically is still a Warden, right? So presumably if something super duper important was brewing, like Flemeth up to something or whatever that Change is, he could take off- Maric did as much in The Calling for lesser reasons.

errant_knight wrote..
And to pull this back to DA2... Wonder if Flemeth will meet Alistair and have anything to say about them killing her (if she was killed in one's game). It's usually Alistair who's gotten the deed done in my games.

That would be interesting...Can't imagine Flemeth would be too happy.

If we are lucky Alistair  will travel to find out more on his family. I mean his mother was free of the calling due to what happened in the deeproads and she is a warden commander  as well a elven mage. Maybe the wash sister was a fake just to keep him from looking for her.  We will have to wait until DA3 if the wardens will return to fill in the 10yr gap of DA2. We did kill the architech and utha who were the others they were allied with beside the orlesian mages. maybe flemeth herself due the fact she knew about the blight comming.