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[Addai]

And while we're at it, much <3 for Steve Valentine.  So glad he is going to be back.  He did such a fantastic job, and in the aftermath is so nice and gracious to his stalkers.  Er,  to the Alistair fans. 

[Shadow_broker]

He only returns if you sent him to be executed

[Astfgl]

Aha! I knew Anora just decided to let him rot in the cell, but then merely forgot of such a minor thing with all that Denerim siege!

[errant_knight]

Shadow_broker wrote...

He only returns if you sent him to be executed

On first glance I dismissed this as nonensical baiting, but it does bring up a good point. Alistair could potentially appear after all game endings, because you never see him executed. There's nothing to say he couldn't have escaped. That means that he actually could have a role that's pivotal to the plot, rather than a side quest that may or may not be available, depending on your game choices.

Modifié par errant_knight, 17 octobre 2010 - 03:44 .

[Saibh]

errant_knight wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

He only returns if you sent him to be executed

On first glance I dismissed this as nonensical baiting, but it does bring up a good point. Alistair could potentially appear after all game endings, because you never see him executed. There's nothing to say he couldn't have escaped. That means that he actually could have a role that's pivotal to the plot, rather than a side quest that may or may not be available, depending on your game choices.

If this is the case, I will be majorly disappointed with the writers.

You also think they would have told you he escaped. After all, you get his armor and weapons back, and Eamon references his execution.

[errant_knight]

Saibh wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

He only returns if you sent him to be executed

On first glance I dismissed this as nonensical baiting, but it does bring up a good point. Alistair could potentially appear after all game endings, because you never see him executed. There's nothing to say he couldn't have escaped. That means that he actually could have a role that's pivotal to the plot, rather than a side quest that may or may not be available, depending on your game choices.

If this is the case, I will be majorly disappointed with the writers.

You also think they would have told you he escaped. After all, you get his armor and weapons back, and Eamon references his execution.

Oh, right. I forgot about that.... On the other hand, maybe Anora was up to something. Or he escaped after they took his armor and weapons--and Anora lied. Wouldn't be the first time.  And why would they tell you, necessarily?That's unlikely, though, because I can't see how that would benefit her. On the other hand, again, it wouldn't be too hard to come up with something.  A number of things occur to me as we speak. Still, I suspect that you are correct. In science fiction and fantasy, no one is ever dead for sure, though. Not unless you see it, and sometimes, not even then.

Modifié par errant_knight, 17 octobre 2010 - 04:07 .

[Saibh]

errant_knight wrote...

Saibh wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

He only returns if you sent him to be executed

On first glance I dismissed this as nonensical baiting, but it does bring up a good point. Alistair could potentially appear after all game endings, because you never see him executed. There's nothing to say he couldn't have escaped. That means that he actually could have a role that's pivotal to the plot, rather than a side quest that may or may not be available, depending on your game choices.

If this is the case, I will be majorly disappointed with the writers.

You also think they would have told you he escaped. After all, you get his armor and weapons back, and Eamon references his execution.

Oh, right. I forgot about that.... On the other hand, maybe Anora was up to something. Or he escaped after they took his armor and weapons--and Anora lied. Wouldn't be the first time.  And why would they tell you, necessarily?That's unlikely, though, because I can't see how that would benefit her.

Because I married her frigid ass. She'd better tell me.

[errant_knight]

Saibh wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Saibh wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

He only returns if you sent him to be executed

On first glance I dismissed this as nonensical baiting, but it does bring up a good point. Alistair could potentially appear after all game endings, because you never see him executed. There's nothing to say he couldn't have escaped. That means that he actually could have a role that's pivotal to the plot, rather than a side quest that may or may not be available, depending on your game choices.

If this is the case, I will be majorly disappointed with the writers.

You also think they would have told you he escaped. After all, you get his armor and weapons back, and Eamon references his execution.

Oh, right. I forgot about that.... On the other hand, maybe Anora was up to something. Or he escaped after they took his armor and weapons--and Anora lied. Wouldn't be the first time.  And why would they tell you, necessarily?That's unlikely, though, because I can't see how that would benefit her.

Because I married her frigid ass. She'd better tell me.

LOL! Well, you had to know it would be a challenge.

[mellifera]

I highly doubt he'd have escaped and Anora wouldn't set every man at her disposal after him. I really see no reason why she would keep him around at all. She may be crafty, but what would letting Alistair run free accomplish for her? I never execute Alistair in my games but I find the escape scenario kind of ridiculous.

[Xallah]

errant_knight wrote...

This is what I think will happen, as well. If 'exiled' Alistair turns out to be just a cameo in a bar, or something, I probably won't bother with a playthrough with that ending, because it doesn't really appeal, but if there's significant interaction--the ability to recruit him, or change the way he's living, it would be well worth the effort. I'm really hoping that whether he's king or exiled, he's integral to the plot in some way, although we know that he won't be featured as prominently as in DA:O. For me, this has been the best news about the game so far, and my main reason for buying it, given the other things that I find less appealing.

Totally agree with what you've said

Hail Alistair!

[AndrahilAdrian]

I think there should be some mention of Alistair being the hero who killed the archdemon. It seemed unfair that, in the US ending the warden got a massive funeral and everyone talked about how incredible she was, wheras in the Alistair ending everyone was all: "alistair gave his life to kill the archdemon. Fortunately, the PC is still with us. ALL HAIL PC, FIRST WARDEN TO DEFEAT THE BLIGHT SINCE GARAHEL!" Alistair deserves more hero-worship.

Modifié par AndrahilAdrian, 17 octobre 2010 - 08:26 .

[SgtElias]

AndrahilAdrian wrote...

I think there should be some mention of Alistair being the hero who killed the archdemon. It seemed unfair that, in the US ending the warden got a massive funeral and everyone talked about how incredible she was, wheras in the Alistair ending everyone was all: "alistair gave his life to kill the archdemon. Fortunately, the PC is still with us. ALL HAIL PC, FIRST WARDEN TO DEFEAT THE BLIGHT SINCE GARAHEL!" Alistair deserves more hero-worship.

I was always amused by this, as well. Apparently, everyone, we are just that awesome. The son of a king dies protecting the land, and we assume the credit.

[Wotannanow]

Link3521 wrote...
Mike Laidlaw said
I even saw an "I [Dragon] Alistair" T-Shirt in the crowd, and it was no surprise when she asked if any characters will be making a return appearance. I wonder which one she was really hoping to see....
My answer: "You'll see some familiar faces. I don't think you'll be disappointed."
Which leads me to believe that yes, Alistair will be back. (Hopefully)

Flemeth and Morrigan, Wade and Herren are bound to show up. Apart from them, maybe we'll see Sandal again.

[nightcobra]

Wotannanow wrote...

Link3521 wrote...
Mike Laidlaw said
I even saw an "I [Dragon] Alistair" T-Shirt in the crowd, and it was no surprise when she asked if any characters will be making a return appearance. I wonder which one she was really hoping to see....
My answer: "You'll see some familiar faces. I don't think you'll be disappointed."
Which leads me to believe that yes, Alistair will be back. (Hopefully)

Flemeth and Morrigan, Wade and Herren are bound to show up. Apart from them, maybe we'll see Sandal again.

hawke: wade, i found this little guy and seems to be quite useful
wade: ooh let me see let me see, he seems a little plebeian...what can he do?
sandal:enchantment! *enchantes wade's armor
wade: Oh! herren did you see it? enchantments of this kind are so rare, think of the possibilities, can we keep him herren?

[Darthmama]

Please oh mighty Welcher's God let me kill the half dressed *censored* this time! I will be most annoyed if I have to pay off Morrigan a ton again. Think I'd rather deal with Flemeth, she left the world alone mostly just kinda did the body swap thing on her own time.



As for Alistair of course we'll see him (if he survived in your game anyways). Him and Morrigan are seriously the poster children of Dragon Age. As such they'll be like pennies, popping up where you least suspect them to. Being just as annoying/lovable/evil/awesome as they're usual selves.

[Tellervo]

I kind of wish they'd have the decency to let Origins die a respectable death if they're as done with it as they keep shouting. Has anyone been pleased with anything relating to any LI after DA:O? Morrigan fans seem to hate Witch Hunt, Alistair fans seemed displeased with his Awakening cameo, Lel's song turned out alright, and don't get me started on the "revised" ending if you romanced Zev.... Just let it go, Bioware, unless you're going to make up for some of that crap. Please.

[Saibh]

Tellervo wrote...

I kind of wish they'd have the decency to let Origins die a respectable death if they're as done with it as they keep shouting. Has anyone been pleased with anything relating to any LI after DA:O? Morrigan fans seem to hate Witch Hunt, Alistair fans seemed displeased with his Awakening cameo, Lel's song turned out alright, and don't get me started on the "revised" ending if you romanced Zev.... Just let it go, Bioware, unless you're going to make up for some of that crap. Please.

"Revised" ending? You mean him going to deal with some unnamed thing about the Crows? That was left pretty ambiguous.

Speaking as an Alistair fan, I was not upset with his cameo. I was pleased to get it in the first place. I had no idea any other fans hated it. And I'd think that Morrigan fans are the only people who can be happy about Witch Hunt.

[Lord_Valandil]

Saibh wrote...
 And I'd think that Morrigan fans are the only people who can be happy about Witch Hunt.

Well, I'm not.
One month of waiting and still no patch. Besides, Witch Hunt is another half-baked  DLC, which didn't give answers and instead, created more questions.
So, no. We're not happy.

[errant_knight]

yukidama wrote...

I highly doubt he'd have escaped and Anora wouldn't set every man at her disposal after him. I really see no reason why she would keep him around at all. She may be crafty, but what would letting Alistair run free accomplish for her? I never execute Alistair in my games but I find the escape scenario kind of ridiculous.

That's all true, but why would she announce it in a way that could only make her look foolish? She'd do better to send her men after him quietly, or hire the crows, hopefully to better effect than her father did. There's a world of difference between just letting him run free and telling the Bannorn 'Oops, my bad, he got away.'  There's always a way to make any plotline work if it's done well.

Not saying they'd do that, not saying they wouldn't, just that it's as plausible as any other scenario in a fantasy where people can kill dragons with a sharp metal stick.

Modifié par errant_knight, 17 octobre 2010 - 09:37 .

[Melca36]

When considering SV's tweet, it sounds like his appearance is definitely longer than the Awakenings cameo.

It will either be drunk Alistair, Warden Alistair, or King Alistair.

I think it would be far more interesting to see drunk Al or Warden Al. 

[Iriedesa]

youall forget that foreveryone you killed some one else let them live and just like a soapoprea can make it appeaer that some one died then out of the blue they can bring them back and I beleaive that dialog games can do the same.how many out there sacrificed their P.C. and then went to awakening and incorperated their P.C. into the game? remember its all in the art of techknowlde. thank youyour friend Iridessa

[Maria13]

I think it might be at least a couple of alternatives....

[errant_knight]

So, someone explain to me why they think it has to be either/or?

[Maria13]

I'm just thinking of SV's words where he says something like, "it was a lot of fun..." I just get the impression that he was referring to several different scenes, that's all...

[Melca36]

Maria13 wrote...

I'm just thinking of SV's words where he says something like, "it was a lot of fun..." I just get the impression that he was referring to several different scenes, that's all...

Thats how I viewed it.

I'd love to see SV do drunk Alistair.

Warden Alistair sounds interesting too.

If its the king scenario, I think his appearance wont be near the end-game