20 réponses à ce sujet

[Lord_Spanky]

Settings
1600x1200 res
4x aa
Max settings (everything)
vsync off

Area
Harvest Fair (12-35++ fps)  **++= away from villagers**
standing in front of galen's tent .. camera angled out (but not too far out)
such that i can see past the water in the distance ..
i can see the archers on the left and most people on the right ..
getting some close tree foilage action in upper right corner ..
this is the single lowest fps area/angle i could find in the whole harvest fair ..

13-15 fps (avg ~14 fps)

This is what happens to my fps score when i individually (one at a time) change the following settings ..

1024x768 res > no - negligable
1920x1440 res > 0-1fps drop (hard to tell)
No AA > no - negligable
Low Textures > no - negligable (**unrelated** i do have stuttering at high text that goes away with low text)
Shadows Off > 50% jump in fps .. avg ~21 fps

System
pentium 670 @3.79 ghz
160 gig hd @7200 (83% free) 
3 gb ddr2 ram @667 mhz
dell xps 600 psu @650w
windows xp 32 sp3
forceware v 196.21

Fresh, defragged, and unmodded install of NWN2, MOTB, SOZ
installed all 3 then updated

For reference .. my graphics card seems to be working on par with others of its kind ..

so its fully functional ..

Furmark 1.70 benchmark test results ..

2752 frames @84 degrees C

standard settings
12x10 res
no aa
60 sec

Modifié par Lord_Spanky, 24 juillet 2010 - 07:56 .

[foil-]

Are there any lamps in the areas you see drastic drops in fps?



My old BFG 8800GT OC was a good card, but there were still plenty of areas in NWN2 that would choke it. I would say what you are seeing is normal, unless you see 15fps or lower during more than 10% of the areas.

[Lord_Spanky]

i dont think there are any point lights around galens tent .. thats an off hand guess ..

when i walk away from town .. in open country side .. full settings mentioned above .. fps is nice  ..

also .. when in harvest fair .. i get a fair amount of stuttering/lagspikes when running back and forth ..

like if im on one side of town and click to other side of town .. game stutter/lagspikes about every 2-3 seconds as he runs through ..

this doesnt seem to be an issue outside of towns ..

when i set the shadows to OFF .. this stuttering is still present .. so shadow map size reduction will not help obviously ..

when i set texture quality to LOW .. this is greatly reduced .. there are still some small micro pauses but nothing that is too uncomforable to witness ..

as i mentioned above .. my fps is not affected by texture quality with the exception of stutters/lagspikes caused apparently by high textures at my res ..

BTW ..
the only item i have changed in nvidia control panel is texture quality .. i have it set to max (high quality) as opposed to default (quality) ..

this really doesnt seem to affect frame rates significantly tho ..

i do agree with you tho .. i am thinking my performance is actually on par with normal for my hardware ..

i guess i just expected too much outta this card ..

i was using a 7950 gx2 but it fried ..

the gx2 was lower fps in general .. but i dont remember the game stuttering with it ..

perhaps 1gb vs 768mb video memory is why ..
 
 

Modifié par Lord_Spanky, 24 juillet 2010 - 08:46 .

[Shallina]

I have a 295 serie and I can have everything at max withuotu a single problem even in very heavy custom area.

[Lord_Spanky]

your gpu is much more powerful than mine ..

congrats and all ..

but its not really relevant to my query ..

Modifié par Lord_Spanky, 24 juillet 2010 - 09:01 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Come on! The 8800 is a year older and HALF the number of GPU chips that the 295 has! That comparison doesn't count. It should be doing better than it is. My 9800 GT doesn't bog down like that, and it's the same card, but I have an AMD X2 CPU, not an ancient P4. Maybe that's where the delay comes from.

[Belnor]

Shallina wrote...

I have a 295 serie and I can have everything at max withuotu a single problem even in very heavy custom area.

Shallina:

Hi, with your GTX 295 it is running like silk, everything? At what resolution? I have 1920x2100 resolution, and maybe someday might go to 2560x1200, but not for a while. This is good news for me if you are etting these results with at least 1920x1200 resolution. I know I always had to get a top end card to realize the game's full potential. What CPU and ram do you have?

Belnor.

[Lord_Spanky]

perhaps it is my cpu ..

but i dont think so ..

cuz when i turn shadows off the fps goes up 50% ..

shadows is ALL GPU ..

so that means whatever my cpu is doing is not capping the fps at that particular point ..

that fps rating ~14 i mentioned above is in place due to gpu limitations ..

btw ..

go download furmark v1.70 ..

run the benchmark with default settings ..

and tell me what your 9800 gt is getting ..

ill bet you nething its less than my score ..

so hrmm ..

if this is indeed the case then problem goes back to what you suggested .. cpu ..

i may upgrade to pentium 965 extreme edition dual core w/ht @3.73 ghz ..

the cpu tests and video graphics test for that cpu are much better than mine ..

Modifié par Lord_Spanky, 24 juillet 2010 - 09:15 .

[Belnor]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Come on! The 8800 is a year older and HALF the number of GPU chips that the 295 has! That comparison doesn't count. It should be doing better than it is. My 9800 GT doesn't bog down like that, and it's the same card, but I have an AMD X2 CPU, not an ancient P4. Maybe that's where the delay comes from.

Hi, I have a GTS 250 and used to be running 1600x1200 resolution with my old monitor. The fps wasn't that great outdoors with everything maxed, adn 0xAA. Indoors maxed out at about 32 fps. My CPU is a major bottleneck though.

But with the GTS 250 1GB with a Hanns-G 1920x1200 monitor, the game becomes unplayable at that resolution, because I still want the bells and whistles when running with my previous resoltuion, and won[t go back to a lower resolution.

Again, my celeron single core 3.33GHz processer is the major bottleneck here, but a full upgrade across the baord for me is necessary. NWN2 full shadows at high resolution, and with high fps will be a dream I will eventually acheive. I take in any and all information on performance here to help in that regard.

Belnor.

[Lord_Spanky]

belnor .. it shows your games owned at bottow of post .. along with your join date ..



how did you get that to show up there ??



did you type it in yourself ??



or did you link the old bioware account with this one ??



mine are linked to the extent that if you click my name .. then click bioboards profile .. it shows my original account info ..

[Shallina]

I have only a 22" so only 1680 x1050 but with max AA and all.



Those card are made for highter resolution. So it should work with bigger screen.

[kamalpoe]

Lord_Spanky wrote...

belnor .. it shows your games owned at bottow of post .. along with your join date ..

how did you get that to show up there ??

did you type it in yourself ??

or did you link the old bioware account with this one ??

mine are linked to the extent that if you click my name .. then click bioboards profile .. it shows my original account info ..

We just add it as a sig file since these boards don't let us register them.

[Lord_Spanky]

kamalpoe wrote...

Lord_Spanky wrote...

belnor .. it shows your games owned at bottow of post .. along with your join date ..

how did you get that to show up there ??

did you type it in yourself ??

or did you link the old bioware account with this one ??

mine are linked to the extent that if you click my name .. then click bioboards profile .. it shows my original account info ..

We just add it as a sig file since these boards don't let us register them.

 i was hoping that wasnt the case .. oh well .. sig it is ..

[Belnor]

 i was hoping that wasnt the case .. oh well .. sig it is ..
[/quote]

Hi Lord:

Yeah, when others viewing our profile click on our BioBoards link they can see when we registered originally, but not the games we registered. But, our signature takes care of that, and to be honest, I like it. A lot of people haev followed suit with the signature, and that is one of this board's new traditions now. However, our posts over on the Legacy forums are still viewable, along with our join dates, and games registered. BioWare still handles our old game registrations too, which is very nice.

I met this change with apprehension at first, but I like these boards better now; there is much more you can do with them. Just need to get used to them which shouldn't take too long.

Belnor.

[Selene Moonsong]

The 8800GT is a good card, but NWN 2 can choke it. To keep framerates good with my old 8800GT, I kept sadows med, and did the same with some other grapics setting. I don't like the like the quality of the high shadows anyway. I also turned off water reflection.

[Hellfire_RWS]

I just made a custom image for my games, if anybody wants it, just grab it

[Belanos]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

The 8800GT is a good card, but NWN 2 can choke it. To keep framerates good with my old 8800GT, I kept sadows med, and did the same with some other grapics setting. I don't like the like the quality of the high shadows anyway. I also turned off water reflection.

Yes, I have the same card with pretty much the same settings. Everything is maxed except for shadows at Med and AA at 2x. I believe I also have water reflections turned off as well. Anything more than that and the game starts becoming unplayable. This is at a resolution of 1920 x 1200. While the 8800GT is a fairly good card, it's just not up to running NWN2 with all settings maxed. You need to find a compromise somewhere. Shadows are the first place to start, max shadows require alot of vid card resources. AA would be a close second.

[Selene Moonsong]

NWN 2 can even choke my 9800GTX+ (replaced my 8800 some time ago). In the same area standing next to Gaelen at the fair, the best I can hope for is about 19-20 fps with everything set on high, AA at 4, bloom off, shadows at medium.



The fair has a lot of NPCs wandering around it and as they wander in and out of your range, you will note a certain amount of momentary video freezing (what some refer to as 'stuttering'. There are small children running around, a lot of ambient dialogue running, etc. All of this takes a toll on performance, and no other area is near as active in the game as the fair.



You can improve performance a bit by not trying to run everything on max. Changing shadows from high to medium should net abput a 5fps increase in performance. Shortening the horizon distance may also increase your fps.



You may also want to update your drivers for the NVIDIA 8800 and up GPUs to 258.96, making sure the version is correct for your operating system.

[Lord_Spanky]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

NWN 2 can even choke my 9800GTX+ (replaced my 8800 some time ago). In the same area standing next to Gaelen at the fair, the best I can hope for is about 19-20 fps with everything set on high, AA at 4, bloom off, shadows at medium.

The fair has a lot of NPCs wandering around it and as they wander in and out of your range, you will note a certain amount of momentary video freezing (what some refer to as 'stuttering'. There are small children running around, a lot of ambient dialogue running, etc. All of this takes a toll on performance, and no other area is near as active in the game as the fair.

You can improve performance a bit by not trying to run everything on max. Changing shadows from high to medium should net abput a 5fps increase in performance. Shortening the horizon distance may also increase your fps.

You may also want to update your drivers for the NVIDIA 8800 and up GPUs to 258.96, making sure the version is correct for your operating system.

1. why bloom off ??

bloom had no impact on my fps and really looks better ..

2. when you say you are running shadows on medium ..

do you mean shadow options in graphics tab .. or shadow map size options in advanced graphics tab ??

cuz turning shadow maps even to Low has no impact on my fps what so ever ..

turning shadows to medium in graphics tab however gets me fps 19-20 .. just like you ..

this is standing about 10 feet in front of tent .. looking out so you can see past the creek .. archers on left .. most on right viewable .. camera in exploration mode .. all the way back of course to increase field of view ..

this is the 3rd time ive played this game ..

i was really worried .. but after the fair ended i realized that everything i do after that has been really smooth and nice ..

that fair was just really tough on hardware i think ..

ty for lettin me in on your results ..

lets me realize that i am indeed getting the kind of results i should expect out of my hardware ..

i looked up 9800 gtx vs 8800 ultra and they are very comparable ..

so our similar results makes sense ..

Modifié par Lord_Spanky, 25 juillet 2010 - 07:22 .

[Selene Moonsong]

As far as bloom, I just don't like the looks of it.

When I suggest setting shadows to medium, I mean under the graphics tab, not the advanced tab.

When framerates get a little too slow, try angling the camera downward (so that you are looking at a downward angle over you character) a little more in temporary situations as the horizion can also chew up framerates. Shortening the horizon distance can also add a few more fps, see the slider in the Graphics tab for the distance to the horizon setting. Shortening that will replace the further horizon with a fog-like gray color.

Edit: Just for info;, my 8800GT was an older model in which the coolin fan controls did not work. I had to use a tuner to manually control the cooling fan to keep the card from overheating. 

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 25 juillet 2010 - 09:00 .

[Lord_Spanky]

yeah i read about fan problems in all models of 8800 actually ..

mine does ok tho ..

after playing nwn2 a while at the settings i mentioned my gpu temp levels off around 76-77 ..

so a very nice number ..

my old as dell xps 600 is actually good for something .. the cooling system is highly efficient ..

edit:

i just got done playing for about 1.5 hours .. and my max temp for that period was 72 ..

Modifié par Lord_Spanky, 25 juillet 2010 - 11:31 .