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[trobbins777]

TIM:"Shepard we need you to go through the omega 4 relay to attack the collector's at the galactic core."

Shepard:"Is the omega 4 relay the only way to get to and from the galactic core?"

TIM: "Yes..."

Shepard:"then why don't we just blow it up? trapping them in the galactic core. They wouldn't be able to escape without getting sucked into a black hole."

TIM:".......why didn't i think of that?":blink:

[cbutz]

Because that would make it impossible for Timmy to collect the Collector/ Reaper gadgets and gizmos from the Collector Base.

That and because the real reason for going through the Omega 4 relay was that he lost his car keys inside the collector base and the collectors won't give them back.

[BatarianBob]

Didn't the mu relay survive a supernova?



Destroying them might not be as easy as it sounds.

[InvaderErl]

trobbins777 wrote...

TIM:"Shepard we need you to go through the omega 4 relay to attack the collector's at the galactic core."

Shepard:"Is the omega 4 relay the only way to get to and from the galactic core?"

TIM: "Yes..."

Shepard:"then why don't we just blow it up? trapping them in the galactic core. They wouldn't be able to escape without getting sucked into a black hole."

TIM:".......why didn't i think of that?":blink:

A supernova didn't destroy a Mass Relay, nothing they hurl at it can destroy it.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 24 juillet 2010 - 10:26 .

[Alpha-Centuri]

And if the point is to get intel as well, how does destroying it help? As we all know, the Reapers are coming, and we need all the info we can get...

[Nightwriter]

You cannot destroy a mass relay with conventional weapons.

And the Omega 4 Relay looks bigger and badder than other relays too. And it's red. It looks like Sauron if Sauron were turned into a relay.

[InvaderErl]

Nightwriter wrote...

You cannot destroy a mass relay with conventional weapons.

And the Omega 4 Relay looks bigger and badder than other relays too. And it's red. It looks like Sauron if Sauron were turned into a relay.

Those damn Reapers. They reaped Middle Earth!

[Bluko]

Stop thinking so much gawd!


Seriously though there's a taboo about messing with Mass Relays. And there are a number reasons why Cerberus might not want blow up a Mass Relay.

1. No one besides the Protheans knows how the Relays work. That said destroying one could have severe consequences unknown to us. Possibly a very large explosion if you destroy one.

2. Mass Relays are very large. You'd probably need a really big ship or a lot of ships to blow one up.

3. Blowing up a Mass Relay would probably get the Council to declare an all out war on Cerberus.

4. T.I.M. soley wants the Reaper tech. I think he could care less how many humans die because of the Collectors. Destroying the Relay would mean T.I.M. never gets the Reaper Technology.

[BlackyBlack]

One idiot to rule them all

[smudboy]

trobbins777 wrote...

The relays are so far indestructible.

But nothing says you can't mine field/camp the crap out of it, and shoot anything coming and going.

[Caesar914]

OP, I like the wit and humor of the idea, it gave me a good chuckle. But yeah, if you meant that in a serious way, then I'll have to agree with the other posters above pointing out why it wouldn't happen.

[Nightwriter]

People have suggested placing mines or something similar around the relay. Don't know why that wouldn't work.

But I think the truth is that the Illusive Man always wanted to go through the relay and find out what was beyond it.

Why's it called the Omega 4 Relay anyway? Are there 3 other relays I don't know about?

[kraidy1117]

Nightwriter wrote...

People have suggested placing mines or something similar around the relay. Don't know why that wouldn't work.

But I think the truth is that the Illusive Man always wanted to go through the relay and find out what was beyond it.

Why's it called the Omega 4 Relay anyway? Are there 3 other relays I don't know about?

• Omega is the final letter in the Greek alphabet, and is often associated with ending or death.
• The number 4 is also associated with death in much of east Asia.

Thus Omega 4.

[Caesar914]

Nightwriter wrote...

People have suggested placing mines or something similar around the relay. Don't know why that wouldn't work.

But I think the truth is that the Illusive Man always wanted to go through the relay and find out what was beyond it.

Why's it called the Omega 4 Relay anyway? Are there 3 other relays I don't know about?

Agreed. The part about him wanting to find out what's on the other side. He's a very curious guy.

As for Omega 4, I believe it's because that solar system is the fourth star in the Omega Nebula, and that relay is therefore the Relay of the Omega 4 system.

[InvaderErl]

Nightwriter wrote...

People have suggested placing mines or something similar around the relay. Don't know why that wouldn't work.

But I think the truth is that the Illusive Man always wanted to go through the relay and find out what was beyond it.

Why's it called the Omega 4 Relay anyway? Are there 3 other relays I don't know about?

Well the Terminus systems are not human friendly. They may have issue with somebody, especially humans - setting up a minefield outside the relay of a party they do regular business with.

Its not as if Cerberus could enforce the sanctity of said minefield.

It would be like the those Minutemen militia nuts going into Mexico to set up a minefield to stop people from crossing over the border. You can imagine how well that would go down.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:01 .

[Simpfan]

Considering Relays can survive supernovas, and that they were created by the Reapers (which we have seen to be pretty impervious to any sort of weapons fire unless they are disabled first), Id say that the Relay cannot be destroyed

[AntiChri5]

Why not build a wall around it?



In all seriousness though, i dont get why they are so hard to find that cuddly little Timmy has to sacrifice a human colony to lure them im.

[SandTrout]

The Mass Relays, if you read the Codex, are not devices of great precision unless operated with a Reaper/Collector IFF. Drift of several thousand kilometers is common for ships passing through primary relays. This means you would need to mine an extremely large volume of space very thuroughly to ensure nothing gets in or out. In essence, it would be less cost effective than rebuilting shepard and the Normandy.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Well think of this. In ME1, you stop the Reapers from using the Citadel, which essentially is a giant relay. The reapers are still coming anyways. All you did was destroy their bicycle and made them walk. It takes a few years to get to our galaxy, but they're not going to let that get in the way.

Why would destroying the Mu Relay stop the collectors? They would just need to plan stuff out then take the long route back. For all we know, they may have the ability to reprogram another unused, mystery relay.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 25 juillet 2010 - 12:13 .

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

[smudboy]

InvaderErl wrote...
Well the Terminus systems are not human friendly. They may have issue with somebody, especially humans - setting up a minefield outside the relay of a party they do regular business with.

Its not as if Cerberus could enforce the sanctity of said minefield.

It would be like the those Minutemen militia nuts going into Mexico to set up a minefield to stop people from crossing over the border. You can imagine how well that would go down.

And who are "they" that they'd have issues with to suddenly explore the Relay, to even know mines are there, that no one ever users, to have issue with?  I don't seem to recall anyone being friends with the Collectors, or doing routine trade deals with them.

The whole point is we know where they and only they go to and from.  Mining the relay would be a simple form of detection, if not destroying them.  This is interest point #1.

It is nothing like your analogy: unless only one person goes to/from Mexico.

[InvaderErl]

smudboy wrote...

And who are "they" that they'd have issues with to suddenly explore the Relay, to even know mines are there, that no one ever users, to have issue with?  I don't seem to recall anyone being friends with the Collectors, or doing routine trade deals with them.

The whole point is we know where they and only they go to and from.  Mining the relay would be a simple form of detection, if not destroying them.  This is interest point #1.

It is nothing like your analogy: unless only one person goes to/from Mexico.

"They" are the slavers and merc groups that dominate the Terminus systems. The same one's that we're told engage with the Collectors regularly and are paid well for their work.

The Omega relay is not tucked away at the end ass of space. It is near the heart of the Terminus systems - Omega itself and their detection network was good enough that they picked up the Normandy from the moment it first entered their territory.

I think they're going to notice a bunch of Cerberus ships laying down a minefield around the relay and should they take issue with this (and I imagine if their flow of creds was jeopardized because some humans suddenly have a grudge they would) Cerberus doesn't have the resources to do anything but ****** off the locals and make their ability to operate out there even more precarious than it already is.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 25 juillet 2010 - 01:21 .

[Kroesis-]

Yes, I can't remember who said it but the Collectors occasionally trade technology for some items. Mining the relay wouldn't be appreciated by those that do the deals with the collectors. In any case, at the beginning we didn't know where the Omega 4 relay would send Shepard to, no way of knowing that there wasn't an alternative route for the collectors. Removing the collector threat was apparently much a much more preferred choice (and to perhaps find out what was happening with the colonists) then to 'board up' the relay and hope for the best.