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#551
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smudboy wrote...

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And those one or two lines could take the production time better spent on, say, making my fem!Shep not walk like a space-walking wrestler with a stick up her butt.

Unfortunately, for the purposes of this discussion, your precedence on animation is irrelevant.

The original purpose of your post was to ask why we didn't spawn camp O4R. You also said gathering leads was a purpose of the game. Well, I don't see how sitting in front of the relay is gathering leads... At all. Nor is someone saying 'No, Shepard, we can't do that'. It provides nothing to the plot at all, unless you like to troll forums. It might satisfy someone who needs everything spelled out for them, but otherwise it's pretty useless.

The Omega-4 relay is a simple lead that must be addressed.


It was addressed. They know they need to pass through it, and eventually they do. I mean we did use the Omega 4 Relay did we not? Your whole entire point is based on supposing that a stake out would provide us with all the info we need. Which it wouldn't. We only found out about the IFF after EDI's data mine. You can not data mine from outside a ship.

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Sparda Stonerule wrote...
It was addressed. They know they need to pass through it, and eventually they do. I mean we tdid use the Omega 4 Relay did we not? Your whole entire point is based on supposing that a stake out would provide us with all the info we need. Which it wouldn't. We only found out about the IFF after EDI's data mine. You can not data mine from outside a ship.


I'd also like to point out that we have absolutely no idea what information networks Illusive Man used in acquiring his data about the Collectors. I'm certain he knows more about his information networks than we do and chose the most logical conclusion (if we assume fidelity to the plot). I somehow doubt this involves mining a mass relay. He really shouldn't need to explain every possibility when it's not even Shepard's responsibility to do information tracking, simply deal with the Collectors once they are located.

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Sparda Stonerule wrote...
It was addressed. They know they need to pass through it, and eventually they do. I mean we did use the Omega 4 Relay did we not? Your whole entire point is based on supposing that a stake out would provide us with all the info we need. Which it wouldn't. We only found out about the IFF after EDI's data mine. You can not data mine from outside a ship.

The use of the relay as a viable lead was not addressed.

I am not refering to going through the relay.  Just observing it.

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PLOTHOLES GALORE

A new forum series brought to you by smudboy and people arguing with him to get a laugh we give you the uncut version of plotholes galore, a full new series that is sure to keep you riveted to the idea of what plotholes have we missed. No there is no fast cars, hot women, or good explosions, there is only one person trying to argue a point he passionatley believes is the best idea. We must find the PLOTHOLES.

In this episode we will try to figure out how shepard can have sex with everything and not contract a disease..... With my trusty sidekick, ADLegend we will figure these plotholes out. Stay tuned.....

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theelementslayer wrote...

PLOTHOLES GALORE

A new forum series brought to you by smudboy and people arguing with him to get a laugh we give you the uncut version of plotholes galore, a full new series that is sure to keep you riveted to the idea of what plotholes have we missed. No there is no fast cars, hot women, or good explosions, there is only one person trying to argue a point he passionatley believes is the best idea. We must find the PLOTHOLES.

In this episode we will try to figure out how shepard can have sex with everything and not contract a disease..... With my trusty sidekick, ADLegend we will figure these plotholes out. Stay tuned.....


Is this available in Blu-ray?

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smudboy wrote...

Sparda Stonerule wrote...
It was addressed. They know they need to pass through it, and eventually they do. I mean we did use the Omega 4 Relay did we not? Your whole entire point is based on supposing that a stake out would provide us with all the info we need. Which it wouldn't. We only found out about the IFF after EDI's data mine. You can not data mine from outside a ship.

The use of the relay as a viable lead was not addressed.

I am not refering to going through the relay.  Just observing it.


Because staring at the relay is very helpful?

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illerianna wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

PLOTHOLES GALORE

A new forum series brought to you by smudboy and people arguing with him to get a laugh we give you the uncut version of plotholes galore, a full new series that is sure to keep you riveted to the idea of what plotholes have we missed. No there is no fast cars, hot women, or good explosions, there is only one person trying to argue a point he passionatley believes is the best idea. We must find the PLOTHOLES.

In this episode we will try to figure out how shepard can have sex with everything and not contract a disease..... With my trusty sidekick, ADLegend we will figure these plotholes out. Stay tuned.....


Is this available in Blu-ray?


I hope so I want to watch this on my PS3.

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illerianna wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

PLOTHOLES GALORE

A new forum series brought to you by smudboy and people arguing with him to get a laugh we give you the uncut version of plotholes galore, a full new series that is sure to keep you riveted to the idea of what plotholes have we missed. No there is no fast cars, hot women, or good explosions, there is only one person trying to argue a point he passionatley believes is the best idea. We must find the PLOTHOLES.

In this episode we will try to figure out how shepard can have sex with everything and not contract a disease..... With my trusty sidekick, ADLegend we will figure these plotholes out. Stay tuned.....


Is this available in Blu-ray?


No sorry text only, but it is AWESOME. There are no girls, explosions, or fast cars but there is many many tedious plotholes, found, exploited, and torn apart to endless ends. I mean how can you not just love it. Plus, its TOTALLY FREE.

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Sparda Stonerule wrote...

illerianna wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

PLOTHOLES GALORE

A new forum series brought to you by smudboy and people arguing with him to get a laugh we give you the uncut version of plotholes galore, a full new series that is sure to keep you riveted to the idea of what plotholes have we missed. No there is no fast cars, hot women, or good explosions, there is only one person trying to argue a point he passionatley believes is the best idea. We must find the PLOTHOLES.

In this episode we will try to figure out how shepard can have sex with everything and not contract a disease..... With my trusty sidekick, ADLegend we will figure these plotholes out. Stay tuned.....


Is this available in Blu-ray?


I hope so I want to watch this on my PS3.


But the PS3 is a plothole... Didnt think of that did you :lol:. Hmmm well if we get enough intrest I think we might... but you MUST AGREE with me. Otherwise YOUR WRONG.

Just waiting for my co-star "do-do-do-do-do-do-doooo*

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theelementslayer wrote...

PLOTHOLES GALORE

A new forum series brought to you by smudboy and people arguing with him to get a laugh we give you the uncut version of plotholes galore, a full new series that is sure to keep you riveted to the idea of what plotholes have we missed. No there is no fast cars, hot women, or good explosions, there is only one person trying to argue a point he passionatley believes is the best idea. We must find the PLOTHOLES.

In this episode we will try to figure out how shepard can have sex with everything and not contract a disease..... With my trusty sidekick, ADLegend we will figure these plotholes out. Stay tuned.....

Holy Habadashery Theelementslayer!
we've got a situation!
incisitincies everywhere! like how Old tali was when she was on her pilgrimage, and where she encountered that geth that had Saren talking benezia in it's memory...I guess you could say we have Image IPB PLOT HOLES GALORE!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ADLegend21 wrote...
Holy Habadashery Theelementslayer!
we've got a situation!
incisitincies everywhere! like how Old tali was when she was on her pilgrimage, and where she encountered that geth that had Saren talking benezia in it's memory...I guess you could say we have Image IPB PLOT HOLES GALORE!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!



We must go on a quest to figure out why and how she got that geth, we do not know WE NEED EXPOSITION. Get ready for the adventure that has nothing epic about it. Or how about we ALWAYS get to her just as shes about to get killed, no matter how long we stay around the citidel with the Consort

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theelementslayer wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...
Holy Habadashery Theelementslayer!
we've got a situation!
incisitincies everywhere! like how Old tali was when she was on her pilgrimage, and where she encountered that geth that had Saren talking benezia in it's memory...I guess you could say we have Image IPB PLOT HOLES GALORE!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!



We must go on a quest to figure out why and how she got that geth, we do not know WE NEED EXPOSITION. Get ready for the adventure that has nothing epic about it. Or how about we ALWAYS get to her just as shes about to get killed, no matter how long we stay around the citidel with the Consort

yes, we need mountains of EXPOSITION! I'll start with-wait....did you say the consort?.....Image IPB......Image IPB.....be right backImage IPB

*MANY HOURS LATER!*

Image IPB my goodness...I discovered a plothole whist I was away! what's Sha'ira's AGE?! is she a maiden?Matron, or Matriarch?! I'll leave the exposition to you on this one since your Avatar is of  an Asari.Image IPB

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I'm not sure. I can't be positive. I could be wrong. But. I don't think some people are taking this very important debate seriously.

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

I'm not sure. I can't be positive. I could be wrong. But. I don't think some people are taking this very important debate seriously.


What makes you say that? Image IPB

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omg plotholes!

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ADLegend21 wrote...
yes, we need mountains of EXPOSITION! I'll start with-wait....did you say the consort?.....Image IPB......Image IPB.....be right backImage IPB

*MANY HOURS LATER!*

Image IPB my goodness...I discovered a plothole whist I was away! what's Sha'ira's AGE?! is she a maiden?Matron, or Matriarch?! I'll leave the exposition to you on this one since your Avatar is of  an Asari.Image IPB


Ah yes but it is of Samara, and I only talk to her because even if she wont have me my heart belongs belongs to her. Which begs the question, what is the motive behind her not wanting to love me. Shepard gets everyone. Black guys, young asari, drell, turian, everything. But not a asari that hasnt had a friendship for a long time WHY GOD?

EXPOSTION NEEDED. We will now delve into the boring parts of the plot and not just leave it and jump into the action

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

I'm not sure. I can't be positive. I could be wrong. But. I don't think some people are taking this very important debate seriously.


Yes don't you realize whats at stake in this arguement? All right you've got me this is a completly pointless arguement that I wasted my time on because im sick and have nothing better to do...

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

I'm not sure. I can't be positive. I could be wrong. But. I don't think some people are taking this very important debate seriously.


Because it stopped being a debate a while ago.  We've clearly shown that TIM's "lack of action" (something only Smudboy can see apparently) isn't a plothole.  Smudboy continues to insist that it is a plothole and that we haven't proven anything because we apparently have no arguments.

Hilarity Ensues (God I love TVTropes)

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

I'm not sure. I can't be positive. I could be wrong. But. I don't think some people are taking this very important debate seriously.


I was done being serious awhile ago. I decided to actually go play the game. After all I decided for myself that I was going to play Insanity with every character class. Why? I have no idea it just seems like a fun idea. Oh yeah and I'm not skipping past any dialog.

Although I had a good time being a part of this with you guys. It was relatively fun. Until it got sad and redundant. But then it got so redundant that it became wildly hilarious. Then we all walked off into the sunset. Well hopefully that puts an end to this thread. 

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smudboy wrote...

Sparda Stonerule wrote...
It was addressed. They know they need to pass through it, and eventually they do. I mean we did use the Omega 4 Relay did we not? Your whole entire point is based on supposing that a stake out would provide us with all the info we need. Which it wouldn't. We only found out about the IFF after EDI's data mine. You can not data mine from outside a ship.

The use of the relay as a viable lead was not addressed.

I am not refering to going through the relay.  Just observing it.



Why exactly would you observe the relay? That makes no sense at all. The main point of the game is to destroy the Collector Base by passing through the Omega 4 Relay, not OBSERVING it. Even if you did observe it, and the collector ship did pass through, you would waste resources observing the relay, not accomplishing anything else, and would probably get nailed in a hard fight fighting the Collector ship.

Plus, what makes you think that we would see the Collectors come through the relay you would be observing? You wouldn't catch them if they were going to another system, cause they would just use the relay from inside to get there. You would only catch them on their way back from harvesting a colony.

This is the first time I've looked at this thread, and if this is what you have been trolling about, you're just an idiot nitpicking at stuff making yourself believing there is a plothole, in which, there isn't one.

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

smudboy wrote...

Sparda Stonerule wrote...
It was addressed. They know they need to pass through it, and eventually they do. I mean we did use the Omega 4 Relay did we not? Your whole entire point is based on supposing that a stake out would provide us with all the info we need. Which it wouldn't. We only found out about the IFF after EDI's data mine. You can not data mine from outside a ship.

The use of the relay as a viable lead was not addressed.

I am not refering to going through the relay.  Just observing it.



Why exactly would you observe the relay? That makes no sense at all. The main point of the game is to destroy the Collector Base by passing through the Omega 4 Relay, not OBSERVING it. Even if you did observe it, and the collector ship did pass through, you would waste resources observing the relay, not accomplishing anything else, and would probably get nailed in a hard fight fighting the Collector ship.

Plus, what makes you think that we would see the Collectors come through the relay you would be observing? You wouldn't catch them if they were going to another system, cause they would just use the relay from inside to get there. You would only catch them on their way back from harvesting a colony.

This is the first time I've looked at this thread, and if this is what you have been trolling about, you're just an idiot nitpicking at stuff making yourself believing there is a plothole, in which, there isn't one.


This thread is over dont try and use logic on smudboy hes immune to it

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

Why exactly would you observe the relay?


Because it's related to the Collectors.

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

smudboy wrote...

Sparda Stonerule wrote...
It was addressed. They know they need to pass through it, and eventually they do. I mean we did use the Omega 4 Relay did we not? Your whole entire point is based on supposing that a stake out would provide us with all the info we need. Which it wouldn't. We only found out about the IFF after EDI's data mine. You can not data mine from outside a ship.



The use of the relay as a viable lead was not addressed.

I am not refering to going through the relay.  Just observing it.



Why exactly would you observe the relay? That makes no sense at all. The main point of the game is to destroy the Collector Base by passing through the Omega 4 Relay, not OBSERVING it. Even if you did observe it, and the collector ship did pass through, you would waste resources observing the relay, not accomplishing anything else, and would probably get nailed in a hard fight fighting the Collector ship.

Plus, what makes you think that we would see the Collectors come through the relay you would be observing? You wouldn't catch them if they were going to another system, cause they would just use the relay from inside to get there. You would only catch them on their way back from harvesting a colony.

This is the first time I've looked at this thread, and if this is what you have been trolling about, you're just an idiot nitpicking at stuff making yourself believing there is a plothole, in which, there isn't one.


No! Don't come in here! It's a trap!

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smudboy wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...

Why exactly would you observe the relay?


Because it's related to the Collectors.


How?  Conventional stealth don't work on the Collectors (RIP Normandy SR1).

And how much can you get from observing?

If you can learn something of value from observing the Collectors using the Omega 4 relay, someone else would have already entered & returned from it long ago.

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

No! Don't come in here! It's a trap!


That blast came from the Death Star...that thing's operational!