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[darlarosa]

:police:OK if your gonna be obnoxious please just don't. I just want an honest opinion from people not rudeness.

:)First off I will start by saying that I am a bit sceptical about DA2. I generally do not enjoy it when a game series (and by attaching a 2 it is a series) changes its style suddenly. I love Mass Effect but it is hard for me to mentally digest the change particularly because they have put out such...interesting but vague information. The fact that they the art style is new and inventive when the screenshots are...just drab and dull looking also has made me...suspiscious. I am a fan of the older bioware games and black isle...my favorite series of all time is the Baldur's Gate trilogy. I enjoy the classic format of RPG's. That said I understand why they felt like they need to change the style for consoles because it doesn't carry all too well to the controler from the PC.

Now here are my questions to you all:

1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?

2) Do you think there will be a legitament impact of your choices from the first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play and therefore percieve the world?

3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?

4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experiance?

5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?

6) What are you looking forward to in the game?

7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?

8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?

9)What are you expecting?

10)What has you excited for the game?

11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)

[Lord Gremlin]

First off all, although I loved Dragon Age, I absolutely hate Mass Effect.

1) Don't like anything Shepard like. As for Hawke, all characters in Origins had last names, so... It's ok I guess.

2) Not sure, maybe. Probably they will determine which factions you see in game.

3) Not really... It's way more risky than silent protagonist. You get the voice you don't like - bam, game is ruined.

4) If you can read his full dialogue lines before selecting them like in Gothic or Witcher - nah, it's alright. But if you have paraphrasing bull**** like in Mass Effect... That's the main reason I stopped playing it.

5) Just a bit. But I like new characters.

6) Viscera, gore. this is one thing i like and this will 100% be done. At least something I'll definitely enjoy (Mass Effect's blood and gore sucked balls... wait, there weren't any!!!)

7) I doubt it. They will probably be essentially similar for all platforms. Probably more like Demon's Souls.

8) Not my greatest concern, really.

9) Beard.

10) The Beard thread http://social.biowar...index/3056179/1

11) There should be Beard Boss Battle.

[darlarosa]

Beard FTW, well with the paraphrasing thats supposed to be DA2 your supposedd to be able to gauge the response you'll get at least...

[Ichika]

1) Sounds like it will be Shepard like, but I wish to wait until I know more before even speaking of this.

2) Not sure.

3) I don't think it's important personally.

4) I don't think it will.

5) Urgh, sort of. I love my warden and all but what kind of game would that turn out to be? A sim game about what my warden and Alistair is doing after the blight?

6) I actually like the whole idea of seeing the blight and everything else from a different perspective.

7) Not sure, it'll probably turn out fine anyway.

8) Hmm, no not really.

9) I expect I will want to try being male for once so I can see Hawke's beard in action.

10) I'm not that excited. I just really want to know how it turns out in the end.

11) Maaaaybeeee.

[In Exile]

[quote]darlarosa wrote...
1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration? [/quote]

I cannot relate to silent VO. The absence of VO makes a character a puppet far more than it makes the character my character. Now, if this was a game in 2000, where the graphics did not allow for the NPCs to interact dynamically with the world, I would dislike VO greatly. But I think that with everything in the game becoming far more real, then PC must follow or the PC just becomes a prop instead of a character.

[quote]2) Do you think there will be a legitament impact of your choices from the first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play and therefore percieve the world?[/quote]

No. But I also think it would be impossible to do this, and that many choices we made in DA:O were insignificant, e.g. some random elf tribe is killed or not, one generation of the circle is killed or not, but then replaced (if killed); Redcliffe is killed, or not, and if killed then repopulated; etc. etc. There is just nothing you did that really changed the world beside Bhelen vs. Harrowmon and Alistair vs. Anora.

[quote]3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?[/quote]

Yes.The world is now highly scripted, and voiced characters drive the action. The absence of a voice makes your character a puppet. I do not want to play a sidekick. I do not want Alistair to give the dramatic speec for me, Duncan to describe what happened in my noble warrior's origin, etc. I do not want Carth to be the one to speak for the party in cut-scenes.

Cinematic presentation, which Bioware has been doing since KoTOR, demands a voiced PC.

[quote]4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experiance? [/quote]

The opposite. Lacking a voice takes me out of the experience.

[quote]5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?[/quote]

I hated the character of the Warden. I loved the origins, I thought those were brilliant. But after Ostagar the game contracts and makes it not about being a noble in political intrigue, or an elf under an oppresive regime, but a Grey Warden who has internalized his identity and wants to stop the Blight. And that was a role I hated.

[quote]6) What are you looking forward to in the game?[/quote]

A protagonist who will drive the story versus a protagonist who was dragged by the story.

[quote]7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?[/quote]

Don't know. Wouldn't play it on a console unless it became an action game. Tactical games need a mouse. I just hope Bioware does not alter the PC version.

[quote]8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?[/quote]

No. I'm not capable of caring about visual diversity.

[quote]9)What are you expecting?[/quote]

A good game?

[quote]10)What has you excited for the game?[/quote]
VO.

[quote]11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)
[/quote]

I want to play There Might Be Mages.

Modifié par In Exile, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:05 .

[Querne]

Three reviewers have said roughly the same, more action, less RPG.
I know there are some Teletubbies here prefering to insult all 3 authors instead of facing the truth, altough Bioware has confirmed it in a roundabout way but I´m really sceptical inbetween.


1) I don´t mind the name but it´s not just the name we can´t change. I don´t like that he´s beginning and end are already predifined. I don´t like lack of different races. I don´t like that even the illusion to go our own way is taken. It´s Hawkes way. I hate 3rd person. There´s lot of it in the cinema. I don´t have to buy RPGs to watch other people.


2) Nope. If I already couldn´t see much of my choices in the AddOn (!!!!), they suddenly should be in the sequel?
    Ridiculous.

3) Nope. Moves 1st to 3rd person. But in the end one of the things I could live with.

4) Yes, s.1 & 3.

5) No, I didn´t expect to see my Warden again.

6) The only thing I really like is the time span of 10 years. Perhaps romances, if they haven´t cut them.

7) Don´t play console, have no oppinion.

8) I don´t play RPGs for graphic. I didn´t mind the old and it´s indifferent for me how the new looks like as long it is not WOW. I hate 35 feet long swords.

9) Dissapointment.

10) To be honest at the moment I´m rather sad than excited.

11)YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEES! GRIFFONS!!!!!

[errant_knight]

1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?

No, voiced characters just aren't something I enjoy. It separates me form the character and make it like I'm watching from the outside, rather than experiencing it in the first person. I feel like a puppet master, not a character. If I buy DA2, it will be the first voiced game that I'll have actually bought rather than dismissing after a demo, or playing it elsewhere. If you mean something other than the voice acting here, I don't know what that is, because I played very little of Mass Effect. I reserve judgement on the character, becaus I can' know at this point.

2) Do you think there will be a legitament impact of your choices from the first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play and therefore percieve the world?

If it took place in Fereldan, the choices would have more impact, although I do expect that we will get some small nods to out choices.

3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?

To me, it's a disaster, see #1.

4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experiance?

Yes, totally.

5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?

Yes, but particularly that I won't be in a party with at least some of the original companions. Still, if Hawke weren't voice acted, and the other changes hadn't been made, I'd be open to the new story, and have confidence that we'd come back to Ferelden. Now, not so much, although I'm sure the writing will be good.

6) What are you looking forward to in the game?

Well, no, not really. Everything I've heard about it is a negative, not a positive, which is alarming, even if some of those turn out not to be true. That's a heck of a lot of negatives.

7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?

I don't know how Oblivion played on the console.

8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?

I don't care, really. I was fine with the range of areas in DA:O, and with the graphics. I don't care for the stylized appearance of the new graphics at all.

9)What are you expecting?

A simplified, third person  game with less dialogue, less interaction, splashier, but less complex fights. I imagine the gore will go from extensive to completely over the top.

10)What has you excited for the game?

Uh....
Well....
Wait, I know, we're going to see some 'familiar faces.' That's cool... And we'll get more codex entries, lore, and history (although I expect that to be 'simplified' as well. There seems to be a problem with the idea of reading.

11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)

There damn well better not be, not unless there are wardens.

[Anathemic]

1) I don't like Hawke, I hate him, and no I don't think it was  wise to do a Shepard-approach.

2) I'm going with a no, the choices will probally give you extra dialogue and events and not drastically effect the main story.

3) No, I hate VO, to me it ruins the immersion whereas I can't use my imagination to do a voice whilst I have to rely on the skills of the VA.

4) Yes it does

5) No, I never expected to continue the Warden storyline, Hawke however is a dissapointment.

6) Hopefully an entire revamp to make DA2 a worthy successor to DA:O

7) Probally, hopefully not

8) Of course, but really I prefer storyline and immersion over graphics

9) A character who will rival your Warden's accomplishments if not surpass them and has an interesting backstory, maybe an Antivan crow or somethign rather than a Lothering refugee.

10) Either the possibility that I will be correct on my judgements on the games (in your face hype lol) or that I will be wrong and DA2 will be a good game.

11) Yes yes and yes

[Rogue Unit]

Errant Knight almost everything you said about the game is negative. You have to right to feel that way but its a wonder why you even still are considering buying the game it seems like your mind is made up.

[SirOccam]

darlarosa wrote...

Now here are my questions to you all:

1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?

I don't feel anything about him yet...I haven't gotten to know him--or rather, I haven't had a chance to choose what he'll be like. If I have my choice, he will be sort of a reluctant hero...fiercely protective of his sister but also wanting nothing more than just to get the both of them to safety. I'll need to wait and see how he'll react to Flemeth, for example, and what motivates him later on. There's still so much of the story I don't know, like are/were their parents alive? Did they die in Lothering? Were they already dead? How old is he when the game starts? etc. It's WAY too soon to have a concrete enough image that can be judged.

2) Do you think there will be a legitament impact of your choices from the first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play and therefore percieve the world?

I'm not sure. I certainly hope so...it sounds cool. But then, in Awakening, they were pretty insignificant. I think one guy mentioned Bhelen being King in Orzammar, but that's it. So again, we'll have to wait and see. One thing I will say is I doubt they will affect how I play, because Hawke is a completely different person...he may not necessarily have the same viewpoints as my Warden. Those decisions might also not matter much simply because they took place in Ferelden and we will be in the Free Marches. Who is King/Queen of Ferelden might, and maybe the Orzammar stuff...oh, but I have a feeling the decision made about the Architect in Awakening could have a big impact.

3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?

I personally love the idea. Do I think it was implemented perfectly in Mass Effect? No. But that doesn't mean the idea itself is inherently bad. I just hope they choose a good VO artist, and from what I'm hearing, they have.

4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experiance?

Absolutely not. To me, having a voice means better-flowing cutscenes. It means actual ACTING on the part of our character instead of just having that blank stare 99% of the time.

5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?

At first, it did. I'm one of those people who are rather obsessed with Morrigan, and I long to know what became/will become of that. But that doesn't mean no other setting/character can possibly be compelling. I think it might get wrapped up in DLC (or preferably an expansion), or even perhaps DA3.

6) What are you looking forward to in the game?

Honestly, the voice. The look of the characters (I think I've raved enough about that dialogue screenshot and how great I think Hawke and Bethany look). Having a blank slate. I loved my Warden, but it's not like he's the pinnacle of how great a character can be. I look forward to having a chance to build a new character, with his own traits and motivations and flaws. Above all, I'm looking forward to the story...as much as I was disappointed in Awakening, I have to say the background story (about the Mother and the Architect and whatnot) was still stellar. I have all the faith in the world in this writing team.

7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?

I couldn't say, as I've never played Oblivion. Nor have I played Baldur's Gate, or most of the other RPG titles people throw around here. I know, sad, huh? What I can say is that the XBox 360 controls sucked, hard. They were why I switched to PC. The descriptions I've heard about the new controls for consoles make them sound great, though, IMO. Very sorely needed. In fact it sounds better than PC controls are now, lol.

8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?

Yes, of course. Not sure who would prefer all the areas look the same.

9)What are you expecting?

I'm expecting a great story.

10)What has you excited for the game?

Sorta answered this in #6. Mostly it's the fact that it's the same writing team from Origins, and a new region of Thedas to explore.

11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)

(Taking this seriously) No. Griffons sound cool and all, but if they were really in the game...well it would be a pretty fundamental shift in the "feel" of the game. I think the term is "high fantasy"...and Dragon Age is not it.

[Herr Uhl]

1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?

I hope that the devs words on Hawke being a good deal more malleable is true.

2) Do you think there will be a legitament impact of your choices from the first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play and therefore percieve the world?

Some side quests and codex/easter eggs at most I think.

3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?

No, it isn't

4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experiance?

Yes, if the VA's pronunciations is different from what I envision when making the character.

5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?

No.

6) What are you looking forward to in the game?

A hopefully interesting story with good gameplay.

7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?

Don't know, and I can't say that I care.

8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?

Yes.

9)What are you expecting?

There isn't that much to expect upon yet. A solid game.

10)What has you excited for the game?

That I like the writing staff and the setting.

11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)

No.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 24 juillet 2010 - 11:29 .

[Nerevar-as]

1) Don´t care about Shepard-like approach. Just wonder how deserved Hawke´s fame is compared to GW´s fastest dealing ever with a Blight.

2)No. ME2 left quite clear the way continuity will work, and here we already know we´ll barely be in Ferelden. Probably just some changes in background and some conversations (Flemeth´s?)

3)Don´t care either way. Liked as much the GW as Geralt, the Nameless from Gothic and from Risen or Shepard.

4)Not really. We really won´t have time to picture how Hawke will sound like. This makes unlikely a GW cameo, though, as s/he probably sounds different in everybody´s mind.

5)Yes, unless given a proper ending. Only US got that (or did before Awakening)

6)Please don´t screw it.

7)PC player, just leave them as they were and add a tactic for the Rogue to flank before attack.

8)Yes.

9) Nothing yet. Not enough information.

10)At least writing team is the same. Hope they have more power in the end game than in movies

11) ¿?

[DragonOfWhiteThunder]

1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?



I'll have to reserve judgment just yet, but I found the expressionless silence of my Warden from the first game rather immersion-breaking, especially since s/he already had a voice. With this, I can actually see and hear my character interact with the world around him/her, something that appeals to me. To each their own, however.



2) Do you think there will be a legitimate impact of your choices from the first game? Do you believe they will significantly change how you play and therefore perceive the world?



Some details of the Warden and their actions, perhaps, but there wasn't much that the Warden did that would affect Hawke. I doubt it'll be vitally important to the story, though I would be pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong.



3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?



In my opinion, yes. As above, I found it immersion-breaking, though as much because there was no visible emotion outside of a very few cutscenes as because s/he had no voice.



4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experience?



Not at all. I already play characters radically different from myself, so playing a character with a defined voice is no different to me than playing a magic-wielding female elf who choked on some darkspawn blood.



5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?



Not really. There was no more room for the Warden to grow from a gameplay perspective, and I am content to let my Warden be, I haven't even played Awakening.



6) What are you looking forward to in the game?



The ten-year span, along with the normal things I like in BioWare games - story, companions, romances, and playing an average warrior/rogue/mage who becomes a demigod as the story plays out. Oh, and mage finishing moves.



7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Oblivion-esque for the console?



Never played Oblivion, so I can't really comment. I do believe that the console versions will be more action-RPG than tactical-RPG, since that's what consoles excel at.



8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?



Not sure what you mean.



9)What are you expecting?



A BioWare RPG, of course. A story with engaging companions and a rich character customization system (though granted, AD&D didn't lend itself well to that customization).



10)What has you excited for the game?



See question 6.



11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)



Do you even have to ask?

[errant_knight]

Rogue Unit wrote...

Errant Knight almost everything you said about the game is negative. You have to right to feel that way but its a wonder why you even still are considering buying the game it seems like your mind is made up.

Dude. She asked. I should make stuff up?

It's negative because all the changes they've made are negative to me--and yet this is still just speculation. If these things turn out to be true, then of course I won't buy it--not unless the writing can make up for gameplay of a style I don't enjoy. It may. I loved the writing in DA:O. It was fun and witty. I won't know until reviews start coming out..

[Giltspur]

(1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?

Well, I make a distinction between a set last name and voice and being "Shepard-like".  I understand that if you use a voiced protagonist that pushes you towards one race and one voice actor.  So that doesn't bother me.  As for being Shepard like, the writers have said Hawke isn't as defined a character as Shepard is.  So it's important to me that Hawke have flexibility in his personality.  And I'm assuming that he will despite what some on the forums fear based on previews.

(2) Do you think there will be a legitament impact of your choices from the first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play and therefore percieve the world?

Well, I think that's next big thing for story-based gaming.  I am however skeptical that Bioware is going to go there.  Their writers are great with conversations, party banter and overall story.  But I don't really associate Bioware with pushing the envelope.  I associate Bioware with taking their formula to larger and larger audiences with things like voice over and improvements in facial expressions on NPC's.  But it's worth noting that the last game made by the Dragon Age team is one of my favorite games.  And so I'm hopeful they'll do it again.  To me, the test is the Dark Ritual.  No, don't canonize anything.  Support all choices.  Make that count.  If you shove it under the rug because it's hard to support different things, well, then you're not advancing storytelling in games.  You're just churning stuff out.  They put it in the game.  I expect them to do something with it.  And I think they will.  Not sure if that's in DA2 or some other product though.


(3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?

Hmm, I would have preferred it not to have been voiced.  But it doesn't really bother me that it's voiced.  The key will be if the paraphrasing gives me an idea of what to expect.  Presumably the writers will be able to pull that off most of the time.  The other concern is that the VO will reduce the amount of writing in the game.  That latter concern is why I didn't want VO.  But it's here, and it's not going away.  And I know they can make a good RPG that has a voiced main character.  So that doesn't really bother me.


(4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experiance?

No. Having a set voice or race does not by itself take away your ability to be creative or to role play.  RP has never been without constraint.  It's role play--not free play.


(5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?

Yes.  His story doesn't feel finished.  But that's not a knock on Hawke.  I wasn't attached to the Warden before I played DAO.  I was afterwards.  So I have to wait for DA2 to judge Hawke.  I mean, there are lots of different characters in stories.  There's not just one good one named the Warden.  That said, putting the Warden in would have guaranteed some connection to DAO, and that would have given me comfort.  Now I wouldn't have been interested in another Warden/Blight storyline.  But watching my Warden have further adventures in Thedas would have been cool. 

(6) What are you looking forward to in the game?

Well, the story mostly.  To me the soul of a Bioware RPG is party camaraderie and banter, conversations and romances.  And the next step is compelling, thoughtful combat with lots of skills that can be combined in different ways.  Having choices in how to approach combat, being able to have a plan furthers character immersion.  COmments from Laidlaw on combat have been encouraging.  He mentioned the importance of having a plan and also mentioned the cross-class combos and also putting more separation between the classes in terms of gameplay.  That's all good.  Now, the early previews regarding combat have been kind of depressing and have me hoping it's just the incompleteness of first impressions.  What can I say: optimism can be a tough job.  The comments from Laidlaw are, well, more thoughtful than anything out of the knucklehead internet journalists and give me some comfort that Bioware recognizes what was cool tactically about the first Dragon Age.


(7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?

I have no idea. There's been very little in the way of useful information on the controls for console.

(8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?

I just want to see some screenshots that look as good as Dragon Age on the PC did.  As for graphical diversity I'm not sure what you mean.  More kinds of environments?  I'd like to see some new architecture, and I'd like the natural environments to look nice.

(9)What are you expecting?

I'm expecting to be frequently terrified by this guerilla marketing campaign from Hell with it's verbal weapons of mass destruction regarding "action-oriented gameplay" and all that was apparently so terribly wrong with the first Dragon Age. I haven't been a fan of them marketing the sequel by bashing the original game. Ugh. But I expect that as more information comes out, that it'll still be Dragon Age and that the troubling things are just another case of marketing finding interesting ways to annoy core gamers.  I figure Bioware knows what they're doing when it comes to storytelling in games, and that the final product will be strong.  They have a good history and are the same people they were when they made Dragon Age.  And there's connection to Baldur's Gate as well (for example, the lead writer).

Anyway, I expect a game that causes me to think about my character and why he acts as he does.  I expect a game that facilitates my own creativity.  Once a game becomes too passive or merely an exploitation of mechanics, it's really not worth playing.  Most games are underwhelming in that they don't live up to that standard I just set forth.  Bioware has traditionally been better than that and had games that are worthwhile.  As a result I look forward to Bioware releases.

(10)What has you excited for the game?

The fact that it's a sequel to Dragon Age and that it has the same writing team.  Seeing the Chantry is in trouble is a nice development.  The framed narrative has me curious.  I wouldn't call that excitement yet as I worry about it coming between me and the character.  Cross-class combos, comments that PC gameplay hasn't changed, spell customization all seem cool.

(11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)

No, I don't want flying mounts in a Bioware game. I mean, think about it.  Bioware doesn't make an open world.  So the griffon would just fly into invisible walls constantly.  Or maybe there'd be no walls and they'd just fly over big patches of nothing.  There's nothing cool about that.

Modifié par Giltspur, 25 juillet 2010 - 12:55 .

[Stefanocrpg_rev91]

1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?

I don't mind having a pc who has already a name of his own, if I can still customize his personality the way I want.

I just don't don't like being called by every PNG by my pc's surname, as for Shepard, but that's not a great problem after all.



2) Do you think there will be a legitament impact of your choices from the first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play and therefore percieve the world?

No, I think the consequences will be minor, but I accept and understand this. Surely it would be an enourmous work to create two or more storylines or many series of quests based on the decisions we do in Origins.



3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?

It's not that important.

I like having a voiced character, but only if I still have the full control of him (for example, I want full sentences, not the wheel from ME... even in The Witcher or Gothic we have a voiced character and we still have full sentences).



4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experiance?

As I said earlier, no, but I must keep the full control of the character and not have him do and say things that I never wanted him to do or say. And he has not to speak without my intention.



5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?

Well, I would like to finish my Warden story that wasn't actually ended after Awakening, but I can accept a new character.



6) What are you looking forward to in the game?

A better ruleset and gameplay (which doesn't mean a more action-oriented one; at all), a better story, better secondary quests, a less number of combats and more roleplaying possibilities.



7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?

No idea.



8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?

It would be good, but first I would like that BioWare focalizes on what I said in the sixth answer.



9)What are you expecting?

I'm expecting a Dragon Age game, not a Dragon Effect or other damned hybrids.



10)What has you excited for the game?

The story-line focused on my character and not involving an ancient evil to stop to save the world.

The ten years span is also interesting.



11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)

I don't mind.

[Remmirath]

1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?

I'll preface this by saying I have not yet actually played Mass Effect. However, from what I know of the dialogue wheel and especially the voicing, I am definitely inclined to think I won't like it. Whether or not it was a wise move I suppose depends on whether or not the majority of people like it, not whether I do or not.

So long as I can still make Hawke feel like my own character and not someone else's character, I'll probably end up being okay with Hawke. The name's not my favourite thing, but I didn't like all the last names in Origins, either. Some I disliked more. I avoided those origins.

2) Do you think there will be a legitimate impact of your choices from the
first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play
and therefore percieve the world?

Well, given that Kirkwall is pretty far away from the area we were operating in for Origins, there's certainly a limit to how much of an impact most of them could have. I assume that they'll have at least some. They will already have changed how we percieved the world, since presumably they did that when we made the choices (though whether they change anything about how Hawke will percieve the world is another story). So long as they aren't completely ignored or especially changed, I won't be upset about it.

It would be neat if all the major choices have a good deal of impact, but I don't really expect it. That would, I'm sure, be rather hard to pull off writing-wise. It also wouldn't make much sense for some to have much of an impact anywhere other than Ferelden.

3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?

I think it's important not to have the PC voiced. So, yes. I think it changes things quite a bit.

4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experience?

If by some chance the voice happens to fit the character I want to play, I suppose it might not - but the odds of that seem quite low. It will certainly negatively impact replay value, as having the character of either gender always sound the same will tend to make it feel more like exactly the same character.

I'm trying to figure out how to explain exactly why I don't like it. Well, for starters, an annoying voice* could easily put me off playing a female character (or a male character, but annoying voices seem to be more common for female characters).
There are also a great many ways one can imagine any particular line being said, even keeping the exact same meaning, and if the voice actor delivers it in an entirely different way than imagined it would be fairly jarring.

It also appears to be bring the dialogue wheel with it, and I would greatly prefer being able to see exactly what line of dialogue I'm choosing. It's a bit hard to pick what your character is going to say if you don't know that is what they're going to say. Or, for that matter, how they're going to say it.

* For my definition of 'an annoying voice', see such characters as Aerie, Sendai, Mission and Neeshka, to take a few from various roleplaying games.

5) Does it disappoint you that you can't play your warden?

Somewhat, but only in a 'I expected this, but it would've been cool the other way' manner. The trilogy-with-same-character aspect was one of the (many) reasons that I love Baldur's Gate so much, so it certainly would've been nice to have again, but it doesn't bother me much in its absence.

6) What are you looking forward to in the game?

The flash-back narrative style thing seems interesting, and seeing and exploring more of the world. The alternate perspective on the Blight could also be interesting. I don't really know enough else to say as of yet.

7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?

I've no idea what Oblivion played like on the console. In fact, I've no idea what almost anything plays like on the console. I admit to not really caring. I don't even have a console.

8) Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?

Sure, if they're cool and make sense. Still, graphics in general is probably the area of games I care least about.

9) What are you expecting?

A roleplaying game, set in the Dragon Age, about someone named Hawke. I don't have many expectations. If it isn't those things, however, I shall be surprised. And, at least in the case of the first two, rather disappointed. In the case of third I would just be a bit weirded out and wonder why they had claimed otherwise.

10) What has you excited for the game?

Honestly, I'm not really excited yet. I tend to be fairly laid back about such things, and it's still a long ways away. I'm interested, and I'm interested because it's a sequel to a game I liked, it's a roleplaying game, and there are some things about it that seem like they'll be cool.

11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)

No, they're extinct. Griffon bones might be interesting to see, I guess? As evidence? Although I doubt Hawke will really have time to go on an archaeological dig for griffon evidence.

Modifié par Halae Dral, 25 juillet 2010 - 01:18 .

[jeckaldied]

1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?

Honestly, I don't know much about Hawke to form an opinion, or even jump to a conclusion. If he is as less defined than Shepard was as Bioware claims, than I'm okay. The real problem I have is the same problem I have with you having family members in DA:O. If they don't at least change bloody skin color with your character, that right there can be a flat out game breaker for anyone hoping for an immersive experience by playing someone other than white. (I know a lot of people who had this problem, i didn't personally but that's because I'm pasty white myself.)

I do have an issue with him only being human, and there not being Origin stories anymore, and honestly, other than 'it's less work and more like Mass Effect', I don't think I could buy any other excuse for why they did this. Is this unfair to bioware folks? It is, but I honestly can't deny that I just wouldn't believe anything else. They are a business and they exist to make money, and if this approach does it, more power to them, if they can get ten new sales while losing my one, then it's worth it for them to do so. (I'm not saying I'm not buying it, but it is very much up in the air at this point)

2)
Do you think there will be a legitament impact of your choices from the
first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play
and therefore percieve the world?

No, they promised the same thing with ME2, and well, things hardly changed, so in till the game comes out, I'm sticking with my no.

3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?

It's not important at all, I don't like it, but I can live with it. I can't for the life of me stand the stupid bloody dialouge wheel that seems to be following voiced pcs in bioware games though.

4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experiance?

Don't claim a character is mine, but not let me know what 'exactly' he is going to do. I don't
have to guess at what I'm going to do in real life, and if I'm suppose
to be roleplaying a character, I shouldn't have to then either. As long
as the dialouge wheel exists without telling me exactly what I will say,
it's almost a deal breaker in itself for me. I know this is kind of unreasonable and ridiculous, but I'm not claiming my opinion represents anyone other than myself.

5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?

Not really, he would be too strong by this point, and let the poor soul rest. Adding to that, we better never play/learn the nature of the baby with morrigan, because that may provide answers to what they swore they werent answering, what religions were right? Were the old gods gods or dragons, so on so forth, and becides, I don't want Baldurs Gate in Dragon Age. If I want to play a god child, I'll play baldurs gate in all it's own glory, thanks.

6) What are you looking forward to in the game?

I haven't heard anything specificly that I'm looking forward to, more of Mr. Gaider's fantastic characters? Deffinitly.

7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?

Um, I don't know, nor do I really care, pause and play has been confirmed, so I know how I'm playing.

8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?

Not really, if they are in this new style they are going in. I'm just not a fan of it, at all really, at least from what we've seen.

9)What are you expecting?

I'm not sure, a well written engaging story? Yes, I am expecting that, but is it one I want to spend the hours playing through as a character I highly doubt I will feel like is my own, or would I rather read about it? That's up in the air at this point.

10)What has you excited for the game?

The writing, as always with bioware games, and even more so after Mr. Gaider and crew's incredible work on the first game, which is one of the pinnacles of writing in my opinion.

11) DO you think there should be griffons D: (not a serious griffons)
Couldn't hurt.

I know I sound rather pessimistic in my post, but Dragon Age: Origins is my favorite game to date, and with so much changing, seemingly towards a series I like much less (ME) I can't help but worry. Again, I know my hang up on the dialouge wheel is totally unreasonable, but unless something like what is mentioned in this thread: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/3206226/1 I can honestly say the chance of me getting this game at the moment is at most 50%. I really look forward to the coming months to see what Bioware has in store to prove me, and others hopefully, wrong.

Modifié par jeckaldied, 25 juillet 2010 - 01:35 .

[Azriel77]

1) How do you feel about Hawke? Do you think it was a wise move to take a more "Shepard like" approach to the narration?

Very dissappointed and disgusted, I don't want to play someone elses story, I wanted to play MY story the way I want. I have no interest in playing hawke, I know they will just have some stupid conversation where we fill in the background of hawke (ala mass effect), but I don't want that.  I want to LIVE my background like origins.  On top of that, HIS personality is set with a whopping three choices in conversation thats going to be good, evil, neutral(pretty much confirmed from the info we got, they even have face ICONS!).  However, hawke is just the tip of the iceberg that is wrong with DA2.

2) Do you think there will be a legitament impact of your choices from the first game? Do you believe they will signifigantly change how you play and therefore percieve the world?

Probably not, again, it will mostly be token stuff.  Someone will say something like "this person helped the dwarf king rise to power", or something like that.  Since you are playing a whole new character, its pretty meaningless and just window dressing at most.

3) Is having a main character with a voice all that important? Why?

Yes, because a voiced character LIMITS options.   Instead of having a lot of leeway in how we say and do things, we are now stuck with the stupid good,neutral,evil path.  On top of that, we are stuck with a voice which will probably not be the voice we would want.  I already can guess that the voice is going to be based on a warrior character and in no way fits with the mage like template(which is what I play). 

4) Does having a voiced Character take you out of the experiance?

Hell yes, when I played DAO I felt like I was the character because I could act and say what felt more natural.  Mass effect is just playing a FPS and playing an interactive movie.  You don't even KNOW what you are going to say till you say it!  Then we have STUPID COLAR CODED ICONS on the INTENT of what we will say?  Then having to suffer through cheesy lines....blah.


5)Does it dispapoint you that you can't play your warden?

Yea, I would not mind if DAO had ended with all things resolved and a nice bow tie at the end.  However, there is still a LOT of loose ends(morrigan! for example), that need to be answered along with a proper epilogue to find out what happened to our characters.  We put a lot of time and effort into building up emotional attachments and EAware just ripped it apart and shoved some new character down our throats and expect us just to forget about DAO.  Also, I don't want some crappy DLC expansion that is going to cost about the price of a full game to anwser the morrigan situation.  Thanks to the rippoff of awakening I will not buy another DLC for DAO.  They need a full game to complete our characters and companions stories so we can have closure.  Also, I don't want to solve any of this with another character, I want MY character to do this.

6) What are you looking forward to in the game?
Since every preview and info coming out has pretty much stated that they killed EVERYTHING that I loved about the first one.  I have to say absolutely nothing.

7) Do you think the controls themselves may be more Obilvion-esque for the console?
Probably more mass effect since that is what they are dying to turn the DA into.

8)Do you look forward to more graphically diverse areas?
Based on the graphics we have seen, no.  I don't want an anime game, I want the realistic looking graphics from DAO.  I still find it funny that they call the graphics "improvements".

9)What are you expecting?
Lots of dissappointement

10)What has you excited for the game?
Nothing much now, I was excited when I heard DA2 was coming out.  Then I found out it was just a dragon effect and that killed the excitement.  I am really looking forward to the witcher 2 though, does that count?