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[WildstarGoethe]

I just finished reading the series, and I have to say it is the best fantasy series of books I've ever read. I can't wait for A Dance of Dragons.Admittedly, I didn't like A Feast for Crows as much as the other books, but that had to do with the characters. The writing in the 4th book is still really well done, but I didn't get to see much of my favorite characters and saw way too much of that incestuous, conniving b**** of a queen, Cersei...



I'll be glad to see some more of Jon Snow, Tyrion and Daenarys.

[HighlandBerserkr]

Favorite book series of all time, but ya, wonder if he will get to finish it, he is taking a LONG time and he is rather old.

[HighlandBerserkr]

Arya is the best Character in the series!

[Chromie]

Awe you got me worked up I thought the Fire and Ice Project was somehow finished

[Tennmuerti]

HighlandBerserkr wrote...

Arya is the best Character in the series!

QFT

altho Tyrion comes a close second for me

[Jiggasaurus]

I've considered that the break George Martin has had could do him and the series a world of good, he went slightly off the boil in A Feast for Crows so it could turn out to be for the best, ever the optimist!

Reizarvg wrote...

Jiggasaurus wrote...

Named my crazy Mage here (as shown
in avatar) Icarium after a fantastic character from the second Malazan
book, I'm only on the third book 'Memories of Ice' but the depth
Erikson uses is mind boggling, not for light readers but if you can
apreciate sheer depth in fantasy novels it doesnt come much better.

I named my Elven warrior Icarium. The two mages I've made were called Kellanved and Adaephon. Memories of Ice is an absolute masterpiece of a novel. For me it was quite literally perfect.

Good to hear it, I personally avoid anything to do with Malazan on forums so as not to snag on any spoilers, the first thing I did when I finished 'Gardens of the Moon' was to immediatly buy the next three books in the series as his writting style appealed to me and I was so impressed by the effort, It's to early for me to judge him as a writter fully but if he (& Esselmont) keeps the pace up of his early novels it would be a seriously impressive achivement.

It looks as though Brandon Sanderson has had raving reviews also wich I'm glad to see, he basically had mission impossible.

[HighlandBerserkr]

Tennmuerti wrote...

HighlandBerserkr wrote...

Arya is the best Character in the series!

QFT

altho Tyrion comes a close second for me

Tyrion is great, gotta also love The Hound:) cannot WAIT until the tv series, i have a good feeling about this one.

[SpacelordMofo]

fidelio5473 wrote...

Steven Erikson's Malazan series.

I named my dog Rood after the Hoiund of Shadow from this series.

[daem3an]

Me too, except my dog is named after Gear.

Modifié par daem3an, 18 novembre 2009 - 04:09 .

[manha81]

MisterEcted wrote...
4. His prose is good but the incest and crap with children does get quite sickening considering there's so much dark crap like that strung throughout. I don't mind grittiness but he is a bit too excessive and detailed to a sickening degree.

Go read the Twilight series. Vampires sparkling like diamonds in the sun may be more in line of what you're looking for.

[PappaCube]

Stanley Woo wrote...

A Song of Ice and Fire is very well written. The setting is very detailed, with all the different houses and heraldry researched and developed, vast amounts of political intrigue and in-fighting, and a lot of very dark and mature elements, including sex at a young age, incest, children fighting and dying, blood, gore, and people generally being malicious jerks to one another.

..snip..

Dragon Age Origins may be mature fantasy, it may be dark, it may sometimes be offensive, but it is, above all, heroic. Bad things happen along the way, but it's all in the name of the journey to defeat the big bad. There are triumphs and periods of happiness, of accomplishment, and a sense that the world is joining you in repelling this great evil. A Song of Ice and Fire enjoys wallowing in despair and helplessness.
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Quality response, Stan.   Thanks!

Modifié par PappaCube, 19 novembre 2009 - 10:26 .

[dunedainjedi]

Just thought I'd pop in here and address the GRRM is going to pull a Jorden thing.



ASoIaF was originally intended to be a six book series. GRRM practically finished ADWD, decided he didn't like it and then tossed it out and decided that he needed to add another book to cover everything that was supposed to take place during ADWD. Essentially AFFC and ADWD are the same book. Assuming he arrives at the point he wanted too with ADWD, he (and this is probably fanboy wishful thinking) should be able to turn out the last two books at the pace the first three was written. That would require him to finish ADWD of course.



======minor spoilers=======



Also did anyone else notice that when he decided to add AFFC he convienently split the books so all the narratives anyone actually cares about(with the exception of Sansa, but hell we only care because that's where littlefinger is) are in the second book. Arya+Jon+Bran+Dany+Tyrion. As opposed to Cersi+Jamie+Sansa+Brienne+Samwell. The few(three?) Ayra chapters in AFFC were relatively boring compared to the rest of her narrative. Hopefully that will change in ADWD.

[daem3an]

Great books, no argument there. While I liked a Feast For Crows, I can't shake the feeling that somewhere along the line he stopped telling the story and started stretching it out just to sell more books.

edit: And then I read an interview where he said:

"They tried for 50 years to make 'Lord of the Rings' as one movie before Peter Jackson found success making three," Martin said. "My books are bigger and more complicated, and would require 18 movies."

Modifié par daem3an, 19 novembre 2009 - 10:44 .

[hankmurphy]

just started the fourth book. this series has quickly become my favorite. i hope he does manage to finish the series. i would highly recommend this series to anyone who doesnt mind reading a lot of pages.  also my elf assassin/deulist is named Jaqen (H'gar).  VALAR MORGHULIS FTW!

Modifié par hankmurphy, 22 novembre 2009 - 06:08 .

[GreenSoda]

It is indeed a great book series. I just hope G RR Martin will be done with DANCE soon -it was supposed to be finished 2 years ago and he still needs to release (at least) 2 more books to finish the series.

[Anomaly-]

Funny, I had just thought of making a thread comparing the book series to this game and thought I'd better search to see if someone already had - I'm glad I did. Sadly, it looks like I bought the game about a month after all this discussion died down. Anyway, I have also noticed many similarities. Yes, we can mention the obvious usual suspects like civil war alongside the onset of a greater third-party threat, but there are more specific similarities as well. People have already mentioned the 'Ser' titles that all the knights carry. Some materials are common factors, also (Red Steel and Dragonbone, anyone?). Needless to say, I much appreciate the similarities as I loved the books and the aforementioned details along with dark, realistic settings and events make the game more believable to me much as they did the same for the books.

That being said, I've looked at the cast for the tv series and I have a few concerns. Firstly, who didn't see Sean Bean coming? That dude is in almost any high-budget medieval themed production these days. I don't mind him as Eddard, though I might picture him more easily as Benjen. As for Eddard, what about the guy who played Prince Hector in Troy? Mark Addy does look very good for Robert, but I hope they do something to make him appear larger as he doesn't do Robert's size justice, imo. No offense to the actor playing Prince Joffrey, but I was under the impression that he was supposed to be very attractive, and probably look older than his age. That actor looks pretty young. Lena Headey as Cersei is probably my biggest gripe. I loved her as the kind, noble, passionate queen of Sparta in 300, now I have to hate her as the opposite?

Good discussion, anyway, and thanks to those who were careful to warn of spoilers in their posts. Nice to see other book suggestions, also.

[G_Liam]

I love The Song of Ice and Fire Series I have almost finished Book 2 and I cant stop reading it

[Apocalizz]

I also read the SOIAF series, and liked them well. But, my interest is starting to wane after waiting for the next installment for ages. If I were George, I'd be AFRAID to go on his signings...if I find out he ever comes to Holland near my town, I would go there to royally slap him on the buttocks yelling GO FREAKING WRITE YOUR NEXT BOOOOOOOKSSSS!! (aah..that felt good )

I'm hoping the tv series will be good though!

I've also read the whole Wheel of Time series...but mostly because at the time, I had broken my back so I was bed-ridden for about a year, with nothing to do but read and watch TV. Reading is obviously better. I liked them...oke...and was upset when the writer died...but indeed, all the women pulling their braids and the plot endlessly dragging on...I was like: really, stop it already! I haven't bothered to buy the last book yet, so, I guess that says enough.

Same with the Drizzt books. I liked them alright, (especially when you have nothing better to do than read ) but after a few books, well, you kind of know the rest.

I have a compulsion: if I start a series I want to finish them. The only series I ever just..stopped reading was the Sword of Truth. Damn....that got quite rediculous.

I'm reading Steven Eriksson now, and the books got me hooked and bored in turns. I have to say, I'm doing a difficult masters study so I like to read fantasy for easy relaxation, and sometimes it's just a bit too confusing to follow. But then there's a part that sucks you right in, so you keep going!

I did like the Dark Tower by Stephen King too though!

So, can you guys recommend any other nice books to read? I recommend the books by Robin Hobb (assassin, fool, liveship traders.). Maybe it's because I'm a girl, but I loved them!

Modifié par Apocalizz, 05 janvier 2010 - 04:17 .

[Gorath Alpha]

I was so annoyed at the stupidity he wanted some of his characters to display in his first book series that I put whatever book it was down halfway through, and never bought anything else of his, and doubt that I ever will. 

All the way back to my childhood,  I always knew when gross stupidity was rampant in the real world, it is punished early, so that real world idiots don't become factors in history.  I could never believe anything done by the three stooges, by the "Lucy" characters that Lucille Ball portrayed, etc.  I never wasted my time on such tripe, and when Martin's characters suddenly got the attack of stupids, I decided he was an ass and I could do without him.

P. S.  A far better series for fans of DA: O's world would be the "Black Company" series by Glen Cook.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Company_Series

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 05 janvier 2010 - 05:40 .

[Grackula]

No one likes Tad Williams?

The whole Dragonbone Chair series is great.

If you like science fiction his Otherland series I could not put down and couldn't wait for each book to come out. Totally blew my mind and I thought it was actually a conceivable future.

His current ShadowMarch series is okay/great. First book was average (set the scene and characters) and the second book was awesome (third coming out in March 2010).

[Grackula]

can't go wrong with Jack Vance in my opinion either.

[mousestalker]

I love GRRM. But I could never recommend A Song of Fire and Ice because it is not finished. If he finishes it with the same care and quality he's given the existing books, then I'll recommend them highly. But until then, reading them will lead only to frustration and fanrage.

[darkangel99]

great books, i wish he would finish them, ive been hanging on for years to find out what happens to some of the characters. i wish someone would make a mmo out of those books, or if bioware makes one for this game id be happy.

[Gorath Alpha]

Grackula wrote...

can't go wrong with Jack Vance in my opinion either.

Thing is, he's hardly writing anything new any more.  (His eyesight failed.)

But he did have a unique viewpoint. 

Nevertheless, I continue to champion Cook as an active writer in the "grittiness" fantasy genre.

Gorath
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[Vangeria]

great series, I have to say that on my first play through as a human warrior, I named my character Jon and Dog, Ghost