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[Gill Kaiser]

phaonica wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

It doesn't matter what the circumstances were, fleeing the Blight is the PRUDENT thing to do. Anyone who says different is living in denial.

1) The Hawke the Coward theory has nothing to do with Lothering
2) Yeah, those stupid Wardens and soldiers sticking around to defend against the Blight. Man, what were they thinking...?

That's different; it's the Grey Wardens' job to battle the blight, and it's something that they are uniquely equipped for. They chose that life, or were given the option of it as a reprieve from something worse.

[Captain Jazz]

David Gaider wrote...

Kordaris wrote...
I reserve my right to criticise any commercial product that requires me to spent money on it.

We only require you to spend money on it if you intend to play.

That's not what I heard... I heard you've got a super space satellite in space which will send mind control beams down from space to force us to spend money on DA2, even if we don't intend to ever play it!
I also heard that you staple kittens together as a hobby. Is that true?
I'M ON TO YOU!!

[Big_Chief]

Johnson45 wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Johnson45 wrote...
And Kordaris, why are you so determined to grace this forum with your negative posts? In the majority of threads I've looked at tonight I see your posts, and they don't ever seem to be constructive.

I reserve my right to criticise any commercial product that requires me to spent money on it.

Or heres a thought.... get ready.... ****ing brainwave....

just don't buy the game?

This way, you don't have to bother posting on the boards, you save money, you avoid being dissapointed, and everybodys happy!

Oh, you can't assume that people won't complain about something just because they don't buy it. I mean, if they don't complain, how will all of us know that they didn't buy it?

[dielveio]

I simply don't get why all this nerdrage over Hawke running from the blight, about Hawke being human only.

We've been playing as human only for decades and now because bioware decided focus on a character who will be changing the course of their world, people are complaining like 2 years old kids.

Don't like play as human? Go play Origins, go play wow, or any other game that allow to choose other races and let bioware do what they do BEST: Create a game that will be remembered for years to come.

[AntiChri5]

Steerin the thread back to the topic and away from Kordaris's.......antics....



Who else would look after Bethany? You know, brush her hair amd whatnot.

[Shepard Lives]

metal_dawn wrote...

You have to admit... the name is... cheesy, predictable, pedantic and consistent with the fantasy milieu? It's like having a rogue character named Wolf... or Wulf, just to be different. This whole thing just stinks of ****ty marketing.

I'm going to open this post by saying that I am not English, and thus I do not have the same POV towards DAO names as most other forumites. I can't really tell when something sounds cheesy.

Anyway I'm going to basically copy what I wrote in another topic.
Just because the name is over-the-top, you're not forced to play Hawke like an over-the-top B-movie protagonist. And even if DA2 were an over-the-top B-movie (as  some most doomsayers think it will be), it's a frickin' surname. Hawke. Not Dynamite McChainsaw, son of Firesword the Destroyer.

I would also like to raise another point.

Most (human) names in DAO were meaningful (Alistair= "defender of men", Cailan= "child", Duncan= "brown chief" - I'm not making this up, look them up if you want to), but the devs don't know how you'll play your Hawke. So they probably thought, "If we can't give the protagonist a meaningful name, let's at least give them a cool one".
Makes sense to me.

Also, maybe I misunderstood, but did you just list consistent with the fantasy milieu as one of the bad things?

[metal_dawn]

Johnson45 wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Johnson45 wrote...
And Kordaris, why are you so determined to grace this forum with your negative posts? In the majority of threads I've looked at tonight I see your posts, and they don't ever seem to be constructive.

I reserve my right to criticise any commercial product that requires me to spent money on it.

Or heres a thought.... get ready.... ****ing brainwave....

just don't buy the game?

This way, you don't have to bother posting on the boards, you save money, you avoid being dissapointed, and everybodys happy!

Can you understand being upset that a series you liked and cared about being destroyed by "audience expansion" and pandering to a younger demographic? When you're upset by something, you feel the need to express it.

Modifié par metal_dawn, 25 juillet 2010 - 12:07 .

[Shepard Lives]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Steerin the thread back to the topic and away from Kordaris's.......antics....

Who else would look after Bethany? You know, brush her hair amd whatnot.

Not to mention find her a good shampoo, her hair looks greasy as hell in those screenshots

[Captain Jazz]

Kordaris wrote...

You are selling a commercial product. As a potential buyer I reserve the right to complain about its quality and form. If the forum of your company and products you are selling is reserved only for praises of your product-state it openly here and now.

If I buy a sandwich and it is mouldy, I have a right to complain. If I walk past a sandwich shop and they are making cucumber sandwiches (I ****ing HATE cucumber) and I storm in to complain about their sandwiches, they will quite rightly tell me to choose a sandwich that I do want or buy my sandwich somewhere else.

[Jimmy Fury]

metal_dawn wrote...

shepard_lives wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I know! Clearly any game that doesn't give you multiple origins and races is not an RPG, not a good story and doomed to failure.

Thankful Dragon Age Origins gave you multiple origins and races ! Keep them coming in the sequel guys!

I think your rebuttals are getting somewhat childish. Probably better than that nauseatingly haughty thread of yours that compelled me to write this one, though. "a name so common and boring it is almost insulting", am I correct?

You have to admit... the name is... cheesy, predictable, pedantic and consistent with the fantasy milieu? It's like having a rogue character named Wolf... or Wulf, just to be different. This whole thing just stinks of ****ty marketing.

ooo ooo I hope i get in before the lockdown
Why would anyone have to admit something they don't believe is true?
Not everyone thinks Hawke is a bad name
These people certainly didn't...

[Daerog]

Kordaris wrote...

You are selling a commercial product. As a potential buyer I reserve the right to complain about its quality and form. If the forum of your company and products you are selling is reserved only for praises of your product-state it openly here and now.

Wow, you don't get it do you?
The forum has rules you agreed to. If you wish to start a thread criticizing the product, you can. And you have. David Gaider is asking that you don't just hijack threads, not saying you are, but the forum isn't just for praising BW products, or there would be more locked threads.

Edit to stay on topic: I'm guessing Hawke fleeing Lothering for good may have something to do with Bethany or his dragon arm thing.

Modifié par DaerogTheDhampir, 25 juillet 2010 - 12:12 .

[Khayness]

Kordaris wrote...

You are selling a commercial product. As a potential buyer I reserve the right to complain about its quality and form. If the forum of your company and products you are selling is reserved only for praises of your product-state it openly here and now.

How do you lose a client whom you never wanted?

Hardcore cRPG gamers aren't their main audiance anymore, I've long accepted the fact that I will quit gaming in 5+ years and fire up my good old favourites once in a while til' the rest of my days.

[Cancermeat]

I just don't know how you get so emotional about a toy video game.

[phaonica]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

It doesn't matter what the circumstances were, fleeing the Blight is the PRUDENT thing to do. Anyone who says different is living in denial.

1) The Hawke the Coward theory has nothing to do with Lothering
2) Yeah, those stupid Wardens and soldiers sticking around to defend against the Blight. Man, what were they thinking...?

That's different; it's the Grey Wardens' job to battle the blight, and it's something that they are uniquely equipped for. They chose that life, or were given the option of it as a reprieve from something worse.

The Ferelden Wardens wouldn't have been able to do anything without the help of people who stayed and fought. What about all the other solders and fighters in Ferelden? Why did they stay and fight? The Coward Theory is based on an interpretation that Hawke was able to fight and chose not to.

[metal_dawn]

shepard_lives wrote...

metal_dawn wrote...

You have to admit... the name is... cheesy, predictable, pedantic and consistent with the fantasy milieu? It's like having a rogue character named Wolf... or Wulf, just to be different. This whole thing just stinks of ****ty marketing.

I'm going to open this post by saying that I am not English, and thus I do not have the same POV towards DAO names as most other forumites. I can't really tell when something sounds cheesy.

Anyway I'm going to basically copy what I wrote in another topic.
Just because the name is over-the-top, you're not forced to play Hawke like an over-the-top B-movie protagonist. And even if DA2 were an over-the-top B-movie (as  some most doomsayers think it will be), it's a frickin' surname. Hawke. Not Dynamite McChainsaw, son of Firesword the Destroyer.

I would also like to raise another point.

Most (human) names in DAO were meaningful (Alistair= "defender of men", Cailan= "child", Duncan= "brown chief" - I'm not making this up, look them up if you want to), but the devs don't know how you'll play your Hawke. So they probably thought, "If we can't give the protagonist a meaningful name, let's at least give them a cool one".
Makes sense to me.

Also, maybe I misunderstood, but did you just list consistent with the fantasy milieu as one of the bad things?

It was said in a sense indicating that the name is uninventive, unoriginal, predictable, cliched. Milieu is the french term for middle, ie: average, center of the bell curve.

[David Gaider]

Kordaris wrote...
You are selling a commercial product. As a potential buyer I reserve the right to complain about its quality and form. If the forum of your company and products you are selling is reserved only for praises of your product-state it openly here and now.

Don't be ridiculous. I will repeat, however, that barging into every thread to drag it off-topic just because you have a beef not even related to the thread will get you kicked out of these forums. You are a guest on our forums just as you would be a guest in any store you might wander into in your travels-- and rude behavior here will have the same result as rude behavior there.

[okiness]

David Gaider wrote...

Kordaris wrote...
Yeah I even heard some silly guys claiming players won't have choice of creating their own characters with unique backstories like they had in DAO with dwarfs and elves. Such silliness:wizard:

I know! Clearly any game that doesn't give you multiple origins and races is not an RPG, not a good story and doomed to failure. Crazy! What RPG does that, anyway?

None I've ever heard of! Now I'm going to go play Final Fantasy, a series where you can choose from various races and characters. That's why it's known as one of the greatest RPG series of all time, right? 

[joriandrake]

David Gaider wrote...

Kordaris wrote...
You are selling a commercial product. As a potential buyer I reserve the right to complain about its quality and form. If the forum of your company and products you are selling is reserved only for praises of your product-state it openly here and now.

Don't be ridiculous. I will repeat, however, that barging into every thread to drag it off-topic just because you have a beef not even related to the thread will get you kicked out of these forums. You are a guest on our forums just as you would be a guest in any store you might wander into in your travels-- and rude behavior here will have the same result as rude behavior there.

To be fair, while he repeats his opinion, he does so on topic as far I know

[Lord_Saulot]

Kordaris wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

ooo ooo I hope i get in before the lockdown
Why would anyone have to admit something they don't believe is true?
Not everyone thinks Hawke is a bad name
These people certainly didn't...

Those are real life names not fantasy heroes.

The name Hawke like somebody else mentioned is similiar to often found names in pulp-fantasy-Storm, Wolf, Raven and the like. It is very unsophisticated and evokes imagery of cheesy/pulp fantasy scenarios. The imagery on the main site doesn't help.

Not really.  Hawke in this game is more like those real life names.  Ferelden was inspired to a certain degree by Anglo-Saxon England.  There are people named Hawke for the same reason there are people named Howe.

[Shepard Lives]

metal_dawn wrote...

It was said in a sense indicating that the name is uninventive, unoriginal, predictable, cliched. Milieu is the french term for middle, ie: average, center of the bell curve.

Oh, I'm sorry, It's been a couple years since I last studied French. I actually thought it meant "setting". the phrase gets kinda different with the wrong translation.

[joriandrake]

Kordaris wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

ooo ooo I hope i get in before the lockdown
Why would anyone have to admit something they don't believe is true?
Not everyone thinks Hawke is a bad name
These people certainly didn't...

Those are real life names not fantasy heroes.

The name Hawke like somebody else mentioned is similiar to often found names in pulp-fantasy-Storm, Wolf, Raven and the like. It is very unsophisticated and evokes imagery of cheesy/pulp fantasy scenarios. The imagery on the main site doesn't help.

Well, they do call it atleast Hawke, not Hawk

[Kritanakom]

Kordaris wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

ooo ooo I hope i get in before the lockdown
Why would anyone have to admit something they don't believe is true?
Not everyone thinks Hawke is a bad name
These people certainly didn't...

Those are real life names not fantasy heroes.

The name Hawke like somebody else mentioned is similiar to often found names in pulp-fantasy-Storm, Wolf, Raven and the like. It is very unsophisticated and evokes imagery of cheesy/pulp fantasy scenarios. The imagery on the main site doesn't help.

So to be less cheesy/unsophisticated... you can't choose a real-life name?