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[joriandrake]

jaikss wrote...

The rumour idea is pretty cool actually,pretty simple to make yet it
would create a pretty decent feeling of connection to the dao events.

But yeah,like In Exile pointed out,the landsmeet would never accept an elven queen.Noble,hero etc. an elf is still just an elf .

probably, would still not  stop folks making up rumors about the noble elf

rumors don't have to be true, some may be about the warden plotting to seize the throne or amassing secretly an army of darkspawn

Modifié par joriandrake, 25 juillet 2010 - 03:18 .

[Time4Tiddy]

kuroshimodo wrote...

 I am pretty sure there is another thread out there asking what changes you believe will result in Dragon Age 2 from what your Warden's decisions yet sadly I am lazy to fish for them. lol

The point in this thread is to discuss what could possibly change in the Dragon Age 2 universe by your Warden's choices. From the minor to the major. Do you perhaps believe you could possibly meet your Warden if they survived the fight with the archdemon? Would we perhaps meet the daughter of Isolde and Eamon if your Warden decided to kill Conor? Would you meet up with Bevin, whose the brother of Kaitlyn, if you use his grandfather's sword and gave it back. Perhaps we could meet up with Orta who you helped restore her family's name. Would we meet up with Zerlinda who you possibly helped out. If so, could we meet up with her son since she promised the Warden a new squire/recruit. Anyways, speculate and discuss.  

Just as a note, with the timespan of DA2 being only ten years, and some of it overlapping with DAO, I doubt we'll meet the children mentioned in the epilogue, or any grown up versions of children from DAO.  Assuming the first couple of years of DA2 are the overlap with DAO, you've got maybe 7 years beyond the epilogue to play with. 

I guessing there will be some opportunity for cameos, sort of like how Wynne is in Awakening if she wasn't killed in DAO.  And the rumor idea is very likely.  When you consider that for each origin in DAO you had hundreds of unique dialogue choices throughout the rest of the game, it would be fairly easy for DA2 to consider your DAO save file as your "origin" and then modify conversations throughout DA2 to reflect that.  I think it will most likely be limited to major choices like achievement milestones, but you know they will throw a few smaller random ones in there to make the fans happy. 

[joriandrake]

the timespan played through is 10 years, this as far I know doesn't mean that Hawke can't be frozen and restored in 20 years after 5 years of action, to return to another 5 years, such things are common in stories

[Time4Tiddy]

joriandrake wrote...

the timespan played through is 10 years, this as far I know doesn't mean that Hawke can't be frozen and restored in 20 years after 5 years of action, to return to another 5 years, such things are common in stories

You, sir, are very creative.  Not sure how likely the scenario is, but points for effort.    Perhaps he'll be frozen in carbonite in a smuggler's den? 

[joriandrake]

Time4Tiddy wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

the timespan played through is 10 years, this as far I know doesn't mean that Hawke can't be frozen and restored in 20 years after 5 years of action, to return to another 5 years, such things are common in stories

You, sir, are very creative.  Not sure how likely the scenario is, but points for effort.    Perhaps he'll be frozen in carbonite in a smuggler's den? 

I thought more like with magican ice spells, or just waltz through some time portal


and thanks for the compliment, comes as an added bonus to being a hobby author I suppose

[In Exile]

joriandrake wrote...

I wrote about my character as example, you still mix up what I wrote about rumors with what I wrote about the idea behind my character what has nothing to do with it

Rumours are a bad gameplay mechanism because they involve lying to the player. You have to construct a rumour in such a way as to make it consistent with what a player could interpret as reasonably relating to their character instead of insane railroading.

but if the warden is female then such rumors could spread, even more so if the warden is the actual lover of the king, that the example would fit with my own iesa for my main character choice/background rumors is just for simplicity reasons nothing more

What about, "Usuper elf warden murdered for usurping territory of former Ferelden hero. King Alistair of Ferelden suspected in plot."

So there you go. You have something, completely contra your specific fan-fiction choice for your main character.

also, the king can probably marry the Teryn who is the strongest, richest, and most medieval europe-like working title, it is mentioned also in the codex that Loghain held the last of these titles in existence which is about more direct control of possessed lands than anywhere else in Ferelden, in other words those lands are more centralized

But elf warden is the strongest Teyrn. She's some upstart that was born in poverty and named to the position because she was sleeping with the King. All of this is just as plausible.

You want to slip that your scenario is plausible. I'm telling you I don't think so. Deal with itl.

[In Exile]

Whoops - double post.

Modifié par In Exile, 25 juillet 2010 - 04:24 .

[joriandrake]

Your replies make me think you just don't want any connection to DA1 or mentions about Ferelden at all

[langelog]

One choice that some may think of as minor, but I really want to see reflected, is if the Warden had Wade craft Vigilance in Awakening, will Hawke come across this legendary blade? The epilogue says the Antivan Crows stole it, and since has been held by multiple swordsman, many of which had been seeking the blade for years.

[Anorfindil]

i want closure on the morrigan romance i wanna find out if the warden ever found her

[joriandrake]

Anorfindil wrote...

i want closure on the morrigan romance i wanna find out if the warden ever found her

I may be wrong but I think that may perhaps be mentioned, not sure, afterall that is also just one of many outcomes

[Odin2040]

If Flemeth is in DA2, then I think there's a high probability that Morrigan (and possibly the child) will make a cameo or at least be mentioned as well.

[Kritanakom]

In Exile wrote...
It isn't wrong to think they'd mention the ending you pick.

Joriandrake wrote...
Your replies make me think you just don't want any connection to DA1 or mentions about Ferelden at all

While In Exile's replies are negative-sounding, I think he *does* want a connection to DA1. I don't see where you got that impression, Joriandrake.

Question to you, though: if your elf had a fling with Zevran but ended it because he started to annoy you, and you chose the ending where you said you would travel...

And then suddenly rumours start popping up in DA2 about how the hero of Ferelden traveled to Antiva and met up with her companion the Zevran and together they took over the Crows and became KING OF THE PIRATES!

It's drawing a very specific conclusion from a romance/ending combo that could have been meant in several different ways by the player.

That's why your rumor might upset other elves who romanced Alistair but didn't want to marry him because
A.  they wanted him to be a stable King with no controversy
B. Ferelden needed an heir
or even C. they got bored of him (Alistair isn't for everyone, after all)!

Do you see the problem here? =/

[In Exile]

joriandrake wrote...

Your replies make me think you just don't want any connection to DA1 or mentions about Ferelden at all

I want them to avoid writing nonsense about my character that I have to fan-fiction away.

Like the absolute railroad that was the epilogue in Awakening. My character in DA:O stayed with Alistair in Denerim as an advisor. As a Cousland and a briliant political mind, his goal was to work to build Ferelden into a great nation. Fergus could restore Highever, and with his own lands and titles the younger Cousland would add a second branch that would increase the greatness of his house in the present (now there are two Teyrn Couslands!).

In DA:A, the darkspawn became a threat and so good ol' Teyrn Cousland the younger had to head off to fight the darkspawn reluctantly.

Then all of a sudden my epilogue is that I run off with Leliana? What the bloody ****?

[UberDuber]

I say its just the major ones. like the dark ritual and who is king / queen. I mean they said in Awakening are choices would have an impact on the game and some did, they also said that we would see old characters aswell and how many did we see 4?



Overall dont expect much.

[joriandrake]

Kritanakom wrote...

In Exile wrote...
It isn't wrong to think they'd mention the ending you pick.

Joriandrake wrote...
Your replies make me think you just don't want any connection to DA1 or mentions about Ferelden at all

While In Exile's replies are negative-sounding, I think he *does* want a connection to DA1. I don't see where you got that impression, Joriandrake.

Question to you, though: if your elf had a fling with Zevran but ended it because he started to annoy you, and you chose the ending where you said you would travel...

And then suddenly rumours start popping up in DA2 about how the hero of Ferelden traveled to Antiva and met up with her companion the Zevran and together they took over the Crows and became KING OF THE PIRATES!

It's drawing a very specific conclusion from a romance/ending combo that could have been meant in several different ways by the player.

That's why your rumor might upset other elves who romanced Alistair but didn't want to marry him because
A.  they wanted him to be a stable King with no controversy
B. Ferelden needed an heir
or even C. they got bored of him (Alistair isn't for everyone, after all)!

Do you see the problem here? =/

yes, the problem is there was no option for elves to marry either anora or alistair to begin with

[Kritanakom]

joriandrake wrote...

yes, the problem is there was no option for elves to marry either anora or alistair to begin with

Heh, that would indeed solve the problem. Good point.

But I suppose it's more realistic this way... perhaps if the hardest intimidate/persuade check in the entire game was required to convince the nobles it was a good idea... hmm...

[joriandrake]

Kritanakom wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

yes, the problem is there was no option for elves to marry either anora or alistair to begin with

Heh, that would indeed solve the problem. Good point.

But I suppose it's more realistic this way... perhaps if the hardest intimidate/persuade check in the entire game was required to convince the nobles it was a good idea... hmm...

my specific example does not add to the discussion and to avoid reading more into it I use now instead the Antivan one

If the player character ends the game with going away with Zevran then rumors could spread that he wanders to fight evil, or if they really go to Antiva it is likely that rumors would start about the Warden being perhaps a spy of Antiva since before the Blight

as said, rumors are rumors, not everything is true, and Ferelden is not just a different nation but they don't even have land borders, they are like England and France geographicly, news spreading over the water is highly possible to be deformed and twisted

[R.U.N]

Some rumors about The Warden would be interesting, but considering how many possible outcomes the game can have and that people already made up what their Warden is doing after DA:O/A, chances are people aren't going to be pleased.



Then again, noone ever managed to please everybody.

[joriandrake]

People are never pleased, but there would be more complains if their Warden is not mentioned than if it is

Modifié par joriandrake, 26 juillet 2010 - 01:53 .