HTTP 404 wrote...
maybe someone already said this, but isnt it the same engine as DAO? and probably just need an engine update, or more "tools" for the set
kcwME wrote...
The only tricky part to updating our current one though, is how will people use it to make DA:O mods? I think one of the reasons they are so hesitant to say anything concrete stems from them not being able to accommodate both DA:O and DA2 in one toolset. I have faith they will figure it out, but it may take some time. *optimism*
HTTP 404 wrote...
I think they may just release a tool set months after orignal releasse of the game, if they ever do it.
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kcwME wrote...
HTTP 404 wrote...
I think they may just release a tool set months after orignal releasse of the game, if they ever do it.
Agreed. IIRC, it's been stated that the TS will not be ready for game launch. But afterwards...*shrugs* who knows?
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Modifié par ecbricco, 26 août 2010 - 06:19 .
magnus dei wrote...
Update the actual one will be good enough for me, I just hope bioware will not forget the mod community.
Arrtis wrote...
They are slowly figuring it out.
That fast! 
ecbricco wrote...
wasn't this a discussion a while back when there was a magazine article about that there wouldn't be a toolset and the devs kinda said that there wont be a new toolset but they said something like theyre going to patch the original toolset to run with da2 or something along those lines?
TheMadCat wrote...
ecbricco wrote...
wasn't this a discussion a while back when there was a magazine article about that there wouldn't be a toolset and the devs kinda said that there wont be a new toolset but they said something like theyre going to patch the original toolset to run with da2 or something along those lines?
Eh, considering they've ultimately done jack to support the current tool set (Don't believe they ever updated it to be used with Awakeing) I see no reason why they'd go through the effort of converting the public tools to be compatible with DA2. Just not a very big selling point here and not sure it warrants the effort, especially since they seem to be marketing and aiming more for the console market with 2.
This is all pretty good news.ecbricco wrote...
"Hey folks,
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Mike.."
MDarwin wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
ecbricco wrote...
wasn't this a discussion a while back when there was a magazine article about that there wouldn't be a toolset and the devs kinda said that there wont be a new toolset but they said something like theyre going to patch the original toolset to run with da2 or something along those lines?
Eh, considering they've ultimately done jack to support the current tool set (Don't believe they ever updated it to be used with Awakeing) I see no reason why they'd go through the effort of converting the public tools to be compatible with DA2. Just not a very big selling point here and not sure it warrants the effort, especially since they seem to be marketing and aiming more for the console market with 2.
That's my feeling as well. If DA2 will have a decsent TS, it will make up to me a 70 % chance, for me to buy DA2.
If not, I will sit on the fence and only get it, if it is really, really good.
I haven't got even "Awakening", neither any "to buy DLC". I am waiting for a descent patch for game/ts, before I will get "Awakening".
joriandrake wrote...
There was no confirmation of a toolset being included or not into DA2 yet
ankuu wrote...
MDarwin wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
ecbricco wrote...
wasn't this a discussion a while back when there was a magazine article about that there wouldn't be a toolset and the devs kinda said that there wont be a new toolset but they said something like theyre going to patch the original toolset to run with da2 or something along those lines?
Eh, considering they've ultimately done jack to support the current tool set (Don't believe they ever updated it to be used with Awakeing) I see no reason why they'd go through the effort of converting the public tools to be compatible with DA2. Just not a very big selling point here and not sure it warrants the effort, especially since they seem to be marketing and aiming more for the console market with 2.
That's my feeling as well. If DA2 will have a decsent TS, it will make up to me a 70 % chance, for me to buy DA2.
If not, I will sit on the fence and only get it, if it is really, really good.
I haven't got even "Awakening", neither any "to buy DLC". I am waiting for a descent patch for game/ts, before I will get "Awakening".
I don't quite understand what's the problem with the new patch (1.04). I haven't had that many problems with DA even when with the first patch on...The loading time was good, it never crashed down on me or lagged! And my computer is not a NASA computer, i have an Intel Core2Duo and 4GB of Ram...
As for the toolset, dang! I really wanted to make a head morph back in the day and i just hardly got it working...then i looked at it for minutes and minutes trying to understand it. I visit DANexus every now and then and it just saddens me that i see mostly nude patches. I saw a nice body morph for females, it was nude...some nice new unidies, they were transparent. Better sex scenes, better kissing scenes like wtf?! Where are the quests, the companions? I ended up getting only the vigilance sword mod (i think that's the name) and the hairstyles mod...all done...
Modifié par MDarwin, 27 août 2010 - 01:19 .
I believe Mike already answered this, but let me repeat: we're considering it, but if there is something for you guys to use it will probably come in the form of an update to the DAO toolset (which would make sense, as we're essentially using the same toolset ourselves).tommcc wrote...
So yeah: will there be a DA2 toolset? If so, how different will it be from the first? If there won't be one, why? I'm not just making this as a direct appeal to the devs; feel free to speculate in here.
David Gaider wrote...
I believe Mike already answered this, but let me repeat: we're considering it, but if there is something for you guys to use it will probably come in the form of an update to the DAO toolset (which would make sense, as we're essentially using the same toolset ourselves).tommcc wrote...
So yeah: will there be a DA2 toolset? If so, how different will it be from the first? If there won't be one, why? I'm not just making this as a direct appeal to the devs; feel free to speculate in here.
Right now we don't know for certain that we'll have a chance to do this, hence we aren't mentioning it (lest we be perceived as making iron-clad promises and then be accused of utter betrayal should we change our minds). We'll eventually decide if and when this will happen-- though I will say that the only reason you received the DAO toolset in timely fashion was because of the release delay. Had there been no delay you probably would have received the toolset around the time the game actually did come out-- we don't tend to work on packaging up a toolset for public consumption until after our work on the game itself is primarily done.
So the answer is: we don't know, on any count. But Mike didn't say "no", so that will have to do for the moment.
Saibh wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
I believe Mike already answered this, but let me repeat: we're considering it, but if there is something for you guys to use it will probably come in the form of an update to the DAO toolset (which would make sense, as we're essentially using the same toolset ourselves).tommcc wrote...
So yeah: will there be a DA2 toolset? If so, how different will it be from the first? If there won't be one, why? I'm not just making this as a direct appeal to the devs; feel free to speculate in here.
Right now we don't know for certain that we'll have a chance to do this, hence we aren't mentioning it (lest we be perceived as making iron-clad promises and then be accused of utter betrayal should we change our minds). We'll eventually decide if and when this will happen-- though I will say that the only reason you received the DAO toolset in timely fashion was because of the release delay. Had there been no delay you probably would have received the toolset around the time the game actually did come out-- we don't tend to work on packaging up a toolset for public consumption until after our work on the game itself is primarily done.
So the answer is: we don't know, on any count. But Mike didn't say "no", so that will have to do for the moment.
Must save this quote and link if the toolset is not immediately released with the game...
For what it's worth, many people want it if only to be able to fix bugs ourselves.David Gaider wrote...
I believe Mike already answered this, but let me repeat: we're considering it, but if there is something for you guys to use it will probably come in the form of an update to the DAO toolset (which would make sense, as we're essentially using the same toolset ourselves).tommcc wrote...
So yeah: will there be a DA2 toolset? If so, how different will it be from the first? If there won't be one, why? I'm not just making this as a direct appeal to the devs; feel free to speculate in here.
Right now we don't know for certain that we'll have a chance to do this, hence we aren't mentioning it (lest we be perceived as making iron-clad promises and then be accused of utter betrayal should we change our minds). We'll eventually decide if and when this will happen-- though I will say that the only reason you received the DAO toolset in timely fashion was because of the release delay. Had there been no delay you probably would have received the toolset around the time the game actually did come out-- we don't tend to work on packaging up a toolset for public consumption until after our work on the game itself is primarily done.
So the answer is: we don't know, on any count. But Mike didn't say "no", so that will have to do for the moment.
Modifié par Maverick827, 27 août 2010 - 06:31 .
David Gaider wrote...
I believe Mike already answered this, but let me repeat: we're considering it, but if there is something for you guys to use it will probably come in the form of an update to the DAO toolset (which would make sense, as we're essentially using the same toolset ourselves).
Right now we don't know for certain that we'll have a chance to do this, hence we aren't mentioning it (lest we be perceived as making iron-clad promises and then be accused of utter betrayal should we change our minds). We'll eventually decide if and when this will happen-- though I will say that the only reason you received the DAO toolset in timely fashion was because of the release delay. Had there been no delay you probably would have received the toolset around the time the game actually did come out-- we don't tend to work on packaging up a toolset for public consumption until after our work on the game itself is primarily done.
So the answer is: we don't know, on any count. But Mike didn't say "no", so that will have to do for the moment.
There are quite a lot of modders working on projects, it's just that projects take time. Compare to NWN1/2 ten months after release - they didn't have a lot of decent quest modules available at the equivalent time, and the toolsets and games had a lot less complexity, and expectations of mods were a lot lower. People expect/demand high quality content from modders, and that takes time.TheMadCat wrote...
Fact is there really isn't a very big or broad modding community for Origins which lessens the impact a toolset would have on potential sales. And unfortunatly the hard content push you folks are doing is somewhat counteractive of the modding community (Very frequent DLC releases and short development cycles between titles lessens the growth a community can achieve).
I mean it's a nice notion Mike gives the community saying "We're looking into it." But when I add one and one and one together I don't see how it's even likely we'll be seeing a toolset. Personally the toolset for a BioWare game isn't anything of importance to me, let's face it the design of a typical BioWare game doesn't mesh well with a modding community.
Quests and adventures do exist, they're simply not as prominent when compared to the nude patches and mods with a significant focus on sexual related content. They aren't as highly ranked on DANexus or the BSN list of projects, and aren't as frequently mentioned by people when someone asks "What mods do you use?" I was amazed and greatly pleased that a PC Gamer US podcast mentioned the Ser Gilmore mod. Of course, the other mods they mentioned were all cosmetic. I'm not saying cosmetic mods are bad, but they take less time and are more frequently promoted by players, so it seems only natural that more modders are drawn to them because they know they can get attention & downloads than mods with actual gameplay content.ankuu wrote...
As for the toolset, dang! I really wanted to make a head morph back in the day and i just hardly got it
working...then i looked at it for minutes and minutes trying to understand it. I visit DANexus every now and then and it just saddens me that i see mostly nude patches. I saw a nice body morph for females, it was nude...some nice new unidies, they were transparent. Better sex scenes, better kissing scenes like wtf?! Where are the quests, the companions? I ended up getting only the vigilance sword mod (i think that's the name) and the hairstyles mod...all done...
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