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[Haexpane]

Arttis wrote...

 
 best games imo is Oblviion and DA:O.
Of course both could use some more work...Those two lasted the longest in replay.

Oblivion is considered the WORST Elder scrolls game w/ made.  I liked Oblivion, but it was a step backwards from Morrowind

[Onyx Jaguar]

Hard-lining it into a genre is fail to begin with

[Onyx Jaguar]

Haexpane wrote...

Arttis wrote...

 
 best games imo is Oblviion and DA:O.
Of course both could use some more work...Those two lasted the longest in replay.

Oblivion is considered the WORST Elder scrolls game w/ made.  I liked Oblivion, but it was a step backwards from Morrowind

Arena is the worst of the main line, and Oblivion had better gameplay mechanics just a crappy setting

[Haexpane]

Morrowind Tribunal is the epitome of how to do an Elder Scrolls game perfectly. Deep, but not too big. Lots of quests, but MEANINGFUL quests w/ real rewards, none of that "ok here are some level 1 potions" rewards.



Not to mention the Storyline in Tribunal pwnz.

[Zalocx]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

Arttis wrote...

 
 best games imo is Oblviion and DA:O.
Of course both could use some more work...Those two lasted the longest in replay.

Oblivion is considered the WORST Elder scrolls game w/ made.  I liked Oblivion, but it was a step backwards from Morrowind

Arena is the worst of the main line, and Oblivion had better gameplay mechanics just a crappy setting

This is what I thought too, Oblivion's engine and mechanics were by far the best in TES yet. It was just burdened by an incredibly cliche plot and dull art direction. Which is why I am glad the interesting regions like Elswyre, Black Marsh, and Hammerfell are left to get the next treatment.

[Bryy_Miller]

adi4444 wrote...

but only if it is still an rpg!! true rpg!!

and not an action game with some rpg elements or an  action rpg what ever you want to call it...or action crp....thers tons of action games in the mraket i dont need another one..

Combat is an integral part of RPGs. What are you smoking?

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Basically, CRPG like Baldurs Gate and not consolized get-it-working-on-consoles-better Mass Effect.

Oh noes, other platforms getting our ****! Oh NOESSS!!!

[errant_knight]

adi4444 wrote...

well i just want to say that i dont care its one race i dont care all the changes thay made
i will buy this game


but only if it is still an rpg!! true rpg!!

and not an action game with some rpg elements or an  action rpg what ever you want to call it...or action crp....thers tons of action games in the mraket i dont need another one..

so what do you think what genre da2 is??

-bg1, 2  fallout 1, 2  .kotor!! arcanum! for me was a great game!!!! planscape torment also..(you can play only human but it was great rpg) dao also was very good rpg not like those games but not so far from them...

what da2 will be?

p.s again sorry for my english ...

Personally, I think they ruled out the possibility of it being an RPG when they hid the dialogue. You can't really roleplay a character when you don't know what you're saying, you can only prod your puppet to have the kind of attitude you would like.

I'd have to put this in the 'third person action game with RPG elements' genre.

Modifié par errant_knight, 27 juillet 2010 - 04:46 .

[Gaxhung]

Without nitpicking or being petty about it, this much we know, it has elements of -- rpg, action and fantasy with little bits of adventuring thrown in.

[Massadonious1]

It should be WHO CARES.

Will labeling it enhance or detract from your enjoyment of it?

Modifié par Massadonious1, 27 juillet 2010 - 04:56 .

[Gaxhung]

Massadonious1 wrote...

It should be WHO CARES.

Will labeling it enhance or detract from your enjoyment of it?

This thread is a backhanded way of saying its no longer an rpg.

[MonkeyKaboom]

All you yammering back and forth about what makes a "true" RPG are freaking ridiculous. All that crap you are trying to define by is pointless. You know what is a true RPG? That 12 year old on the basketball court across the street pretending to be Jordan....



Get over yourselves.

[TheMadCat]

Massadonious1 wrote...

It should be WHO CARES.

Will labeling it enhance or detract from your enjoyment of it?

I don't know, if Activision went and started calling Call of Duty an RPG I'm not sure if I'd really enjoy it as an RPG. (Or anything for that matter, but that's besides the point.)

[Faust1979]

I don't understand why some people think the only true RPG is a top down perspective tactical combat thing. An action RPG is till an RPG and can still offer a wide variety. Like take Hawk for example sure he has a predetermined background but he can be a mage, warrior, rogue, determine how he plays and reacts level him up, it sounds like a roleplaying game to me!

[MonkeyKaboom]

Sometimes this friend of mine comes over. She likes to pretend she's a cop and I've been caught stealing. Yeah I don't think we've ever kept track of things like "stats"......

[AlanC9]

TheMadCat wrote...
I don't know, if Activision went and started calling Call of Duty an RPG I'm not sure if I'd really enjoy it as an RPG. (Or anything for that matter, but that's besides the point.) 

But that's kind of the point. Labels don't change anything, so who cares what they are? Unless someone goes around buying everything that says RPG on the box, which I guess is possible.

[Bobad]

Driving sim, definitely.

[Amentep]

MonkeyKaboom wrote...

Sometimes this friend of mine comes over. She likes to pretend she's a cop and I've been caught stealing. Yeah I don't think we've ever kept track of things like "stats"......

If she books you, you've got stats! *ba-dum-tisch*

Seriously though, sometimes - while I understand the need to market games - I think genre definitions are more limiting than they are helpful.

The big question to me is - "do I think I'll have fun?" followed closely by "do I think its worth whatever $$$ (buy/rent) to play it?".

That said, I do think that there's nothing that I've seen about DA2 that makes me think its suddenly not going to be some type of RPG game.

[Valente11]

uhh.. rpg. honestly, what does it matter, the only people who would be whining about it being anything else are cynics anyway.

[Bryy_Miller]

Gaxhung wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

It should be WHO CARES.

Will labeling it enhance or detract from your enjoyment of it?

This thread is a backhanded way of saying its no longer an rpg.

It's pretty upfront about it, actually.

[adi4444]

Cynical Being wrote...

This whole conversation gets a little ridiculous after awhile. We all might as well break out some dice and start playing some D&D, I'll go get my Gnome Sorcerer and we can all be happy.
No. With everything advancing, so will the RPGs of today. What matters is what is inside the damn game, not some label it's given by people wishing for "the good ol' days" where "true gamers" were.

advance to what? some crp cations games with great grphics and without imagination thats advence???

thats bulls....t

what do you think the rpg of today should advance to?
to became more like diablo? or more like ME?  thats advance? you dont know what you talking about sorry man,..

Modifié par adi4444, 28 juillet 2010 - 09:28 .

[Novadove]

difference between nwn and dao is, i feel the pace of nwn too slow, too much micro management.

BG has nice micro management vs pace but without a good graphic



DAO has a good graphic, good pace and light hearted micro management of character.



everytime i want to play nwn, i will exit the game within 5 min due to the thought of having to go through all the management.



That said, it does not mean i am the action-rpg type of player. As long as the RPG micro management (equipment,items etc) is done well, it does not matter whether this will be an action game or not. I do, however, hate the idea of pure action/adventure game where they left out RPG elemental or decrease it to almost none.