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[trobbins777]

I know everyone seems to love her in ME2, but i really can't stand Tali.I actually thought about not recruiting her but i needed the shield upgrade. I mean she was alright at Freedom's Progress but everything after that just makes me hate her. Her attitude towards Jacob after her recruitment comes off more icy than anything Miranda has said(though Jacob's comeback made me grin (high fives Jacob)). Especially if you consider the fact that he along with the Cerberus crew just saved her ass.

She won't shutup about how cerberus experiments are evil, yet she is so ready to defend her father's experiments against the geth. Which brings me to her views on the geth which can be described as pretty much racist. Though i will admit that those views probably come from being raised by people who hate the geth. Even so, Tali should be able to see that the geth uprising was the Quarians fault(see Mordin and the Genophage). You can't blame a race of sentient beings for driving you off when you try to kill them. She says they had no other option but that's just bull. The quarians could have released the geth and let them chose their own destiny. Instead they tried to commit genocide and in my opinion they got what they deserved.

The thing i dislike about her the most is her romance. Let's forget the fact that the dialogue is more cheesy than a Twilight book. Let's forget that if Shepard really cared about her he wouldn't put her life in danger like that. Let's forget that the Romance itself develops unrealistically. When it comes down to it Tali's romance basically turns her into a rabid fan-girl for shepard. She's in love with Commander Shepard, not John, Jack, or whatever your characters name is. It feels like her romance was put into the game for the sole purpose of stroking the players massive ego. Which also makes Tali come across as a shallow character. She has this whole theme of "I've always loved you Shepard<3swoon<3." That always made me say "I thought I was playing Mass Effect not a effing T.V. novella.":?

I write this because i actually liked Tali in mass effect 1. She was the fun little sister that i never had. That's why i'm upset that in mass effect 2 she doesn't develop much as a character even if you romance her.

Now if you'll excuse me I believe i get one last ciggarette before i report to the firing squad.

[Christmas Ape]

[trobbins777]

mrsph wrote...

It's your opinion, man. But I can't help but think you posted all those words in an attempt to say "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!"

more like "Look at Tali, now back to me, now back to Tali,NOW BACK TO ME!! sadly she isn't me but she stopped using krogan scented bodywash she could smell like me."

in all seriousness I apologize if i come across that way, and maybe i am wrong about a bunch of things. However, I don't like the direction they took with Tali's character in ME2 and that is the only reason i am posting.

[Titanium Man]

mrsph wrote...

It's your opinion, man. But I can't help but think you posted all those words in an attempt to say "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!"

You forgot:

Modifié par Titanium Man, 25 juillet 2010 - 08:21 .

[NanQuan]

Most people do seem to like Tali's character development in ME2, but hey, you're entitled to your opinion. The only thing I care to offer (and I'm not attacking your opinion or anything) is that from a female perspective you might like her development better (since you seem to have a problem with the romance). As a female player, I loved that because Tali was not romancable her development ended with being very close friends. Her last line for girls, where she explains about linking environmental suits and it being a sign of trust, is very touching from my point of view. The same line appears for guys, but it's taken in a different direction, which you commented on not liking.



But from a female perspective it appears as such: During her loyalty mission you hear auntie raan talk about when she linked her suit with Tali's mother so that she could be there when Tali was born. this is an extremely intimate and important sign of friendship. It lays the foundation for when Tali confesses that the only person she would feel comfortable doing that with is Shepard. I found this final line from her extremely touching.



So if you didn't like it from the male point of view, you might have better luck if you play from the female point of view. But then again you may just want to let it go altogether :/

[InvaderErl]

Titanium Man wrote...

mrsph wrote...

It's your opinion, man. But I can't help but think you posted all those words in an attempt to say "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!"

You forgot:

The Dude has spoken

[StefanBW]

Huh, I never thought that Jacob's "introduce yourself to EDI" could be a comeback at Tali's attitude. Heavy risk...

I take it Tali took a rocket to the face then?

[langelog]

**** Tali!

[NuclearBuddha]

trobbins777 wrote...
However, I don't like the direction they took with Tali's character in ME2 and that is the only reason i am posting.

[Titanium Man]

langelog wrote...

**** Tali!

I am pretty sure some people on this board have tried to do that in ME2 :V

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

[NuclearBuddha]

trobbins777 wrote...
yet she is so ready to defend her father's experiments against the geth.

Where are you getting this?  She specifically denounced what he did, she just doesn't want his good name ruined.

[Giggles_Manically]

You win this round Titanium Man.



Well played.

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

trobbins777 wrote...
However, I don't like the direction they took with Tali's character in ME2 and that is the only reason i am posting.

[Titanium Man]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

You win this round Titanium Man.

Well played.

I aim to please. 

[langelog]

Titanium Man wrote...

langelog wrote...

**** Tali!

I am pretty sure some people on this board have tried to do that in ME2 :V

*sigh* Sad, but true. Grown men obsessing over an alien woman that doesn't exist.

[Posioned]

I've liked her character since the first game. But more in the kid sister kind of way. I find the whole romance side kind of creepy.

[langelog]

Posioned wrote...

I've liked her character since the first game. But more in the kid sister kind of way. I find the whole romance side kind of creepy.

I couldn't have said it better myself, she's kind of immature like a kid sister and my Shep would protect and look after her the same way, but romance, nope sorry my Shep has Miri.

[Kronner]

I hate her guts too. Always have. I love ME2 for giving me the chance to kill her, just to make sure she is gone from my ME universe.

[ReluctantMind]

I've always thought it was interesting how two people can interpret the exact same information in such drastically different ways. Neither person is "wrong", each just heard it a particular way. This was the case when I played a female Shepard. All these lines that sounded like part of a romantic buildup for my male Shepard were said the same way, but didn't sound romantic with my female Shepard even though they were the exact same voice files. I disagree with almost every single thing you said, but that's cool. I heard things differently and enjoyed the game differently. I hope you keep enjoying the game from your own perspective.

[Titanium Man]

Isn't the point of a good character to inspire a range of emotions, some of which we see here?



I mean, I like Tali because she's a good character. She's written convinicingly. Mind you, I think Mordin is way more interesting, but I don't think they did a bad job with Tali. A strong character can inspire a variety of emotions. Really, at this point we're better off judging her based on if she's written well or not.

[mosor]

You're definitely not alone. I also really liked Tali in ME1. Really liked quarians too. Now after ME2, I can't give a damn about either. If anything, it stiffened my resolve to play renegade

[VandalX187]

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

trobbins777 wrote...
However, I don't like the direction they took with Tali's character in ME2 and that is the only reason i am posting.

[VandalX187]

Christmas Ape wrote...