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[FuturePasTimeCE]

Shandepared wrote...

I picked Udina because he's a savvy politician and he has humanity's best interests at heart. Udina will push forward human interests no matter what, but Anderson won't because deep down he's too concerned about the welfare of non-humans. Anderson has his priorities in the wrong place.

dude man... anderson, clearly is the waaaaaaaaaaaaay better candidate (obvious paragon option)... udina's a selfish douchebag with his own self-interest at heart... selfless anderson's all about humanity, yet favors a community of alien cooperation. 

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 26 juillet 2010 - 03:24 .

[Barquiel]

What happened to "politics is irrelevant if we can't defeat the reapers"?

Anderson takes the reaper threat seriously (he always believes Shepard's stories), Udina not.

Modifié par Barquiel, 26 juillet 2010 - 03:38 .

[Kroesis-]

Neither Anderson nor Udina have manage to accomplish very much when it comes to the Reapers. Anderson believes but doesn't weild the power very well, Udina can weild the power, but doesn't believe.



6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

[Annie_Dear]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Someone post that photoshop pic of Udina in drag with:
This is an outrage! on it quick!

Your wish is my command!

[vehzeel]

If you need another obstacle, go to Udina. If you want a little help, go to Cpt. Anderson.

Anderson is way more sympathetic and realizes the importance of working WITH instead of AGAINST the other races. Sharing resources, not fighting over them tooth and claw, will benefit everyone in the long run.

I pick Anderson every time.

[ADLegend21]

I'll never choose Udina, jsut because I played Me2 first and saw what an ass he was to sheaprd and how he treated anderson all this "increase to human pwoer" is gonna get us killed I'd rather us go to war with Geth, Korgan, Rachni, Asari, Turians, and Salarians at our sides then us have to fight the reapers alone because we crippled the rest of the galazy with an all human council.

[Kroesis-]

ADLegend21 wrote...
 I'd rather us go to war with Geth, Korgan, Rachni, Asari, Turians, and Salarians at our sides then us have to fight the reapers alone because we crippled the rest of the galazy with an all human council.

It doesn't matter, neither council, human or mixed is any use if they keep dismissing the Reaper threat.

[ADLegend21]

Kroesis- wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...
 I'd rather us go to war with Geth, Korgan, Rachni, Asari, Turians, and Salarians at our sides then us have to fight the reapers alone because we crippled the rest of the galazy with an all human council.

It doesn't matter, neither council, human or mixed is any use if they keep dismissing the Reaper threat.

Never said we needed them. I can see there being an option of shepard impeaching the council and taking control of the fleets him/herself but that'd be useless if everyone was weakend and only human ships were available because you killed the council.

[inCHAINS]

If you manipulate and bribe Udina enough he'll take your side like most politician but with Anderson he's s solider and a soldier has enough honor to not fall into that crap.

[AresXX7]

I chose Anderson because of what Udina did in ME1, locking the Normandy & grounding the crew without looking at all sides of the situation, regardless of him being pro-human or not, he comes off as being too narrow-minded to really look for the best solution or alternatives to it.

I'm not a big fan of letting someone put me into a "fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me" scenario with the safety of the galaxy at stake

besides, the whole lockdown situation showed his only true intentions are to himself, he'll argue & shout when he doesn't get his way, but he's quick to pucker up to some @sscheeks & agree if it makes him look good as well
Anderson may not have been successful at convincing the other council members with the reaper threat, but he didn't pull a 180 when they disagreed either

[Nightwriter]

inCHAINS wrote...

If you manipulate and bribe Udina enough he'll take your side like most politician but with Anderson he's s solider and a soldier has enough honor to not fall into that crap.

Manipulate and bribe?

[izmirtheastarach]

I hate Udina. If there is one thing missing from ME1, it is the option to shoot him after he has your grounded. He almost dooms the entire galaxy because he thinks he knows better then you. Arrogant jerk.

[Water Dumple]

I picked Udina because I already had two playthroughs picking Anderson, and because Udina is hilarious.



Still, just for good measure:

[Dean_the_Young]

Nightwriter wrote...

inCHAINS wrote...

If you manipulate and bribe Udina enough he'll take your side like most politician but with Anderson he's s solider and a soldier has enough honor to not fall into that crap.

Manipulate and bribe?

I was laughing at the 'soldiers are too honorable' part myself.

Hehe.

[Asheer_Khan]

Since in my games original council lives and i have back Spectre status i wouldn't mind that in ME 3 will be an option for Anderson to step down and appoint that mister "outrage" as new councilor and then help my Shep, Liara, Aria, Shiala and Miranda finally track down timmy and his sidekick because now "Reapers are last thing timmy should be worried"...

[OmegaXI]

Udina has that Winston Churchill feel to him, and I can see him giving a great rally speech, and Anderson would be great at leading military into the fight. Udina is an ***-hat at times but thats because he's a politican what do you expect? Besides Anderson not being in the Military makes the military weaker IMO. That and old udina can play the council's game with them and not get burned.

[JGDD]

Shandepared wrote...

Anderson uses his position to do favors for his friends. That's the not the sign of an honest politician. Udina shows no such more favoritism. Not only is he more of a patriot, he's not nearly as corrupt as Anderson is.

Lets's examine this for a second...

Udina does show a preferential bias towards humans (probably a good thing). Though he actually does little for anyone's advancement beyond his own unless it gets him some airtime on the Extranet (the Spectre thing). On the other hand is Anderson who does what it takes, much like Cerberus, to get the job done at any cost (career suicide punching an ambassador). Frankly, Anderson on the whole, is a greater patriot and humanitarian than some booty licking politician with aspirations of delusional greatness that does nothing more than stick his head in the sand at the first whiff of trouble (let's pretend the reapers don't exist).

[Marzillius]

I don't get why anyone would choose Udina. He's an ****. Shepard becomes the first human Spectre, makes him councilor and saves the freaking galaxy. And he doesn't even say "thank you" once.

[JGDD]

Marzillius wrote...

I don't get why anyone would choose Udina. He's an ****. Shepard becomes the first human Spectre, makes him councilor and saves the freaking galaxy. And he doesn't even say "thank you" once.

For me the choice was not that difficult really. If Anderson believes Shepard is right and the 'vanguards of our destruction' are on the way I would want a man of Anderson's caliber in a military position rather than hobbled in the quicksand of politics. Udina's life as a politician may be severely short lived anyway if he doesn't get off the fence and use the tools at his disposal to their fullest. By that I mean Shepard and his encounters with the ominous signs of reapers throughout his travels.

[PrinceLionheart]

Marzillius wrote...

I don't get why anyone would choose Udina. He's an ****. Shepard becomes the first human Spectre, makes him councilor and saves the freaking galaxy. And he doesn't even say "thank you" once.

Making a decision that important based purely on your emotions or feelings to the guy is shortsighted though.

Anderson is a good guy, but at the end of the day he's a really ****** poor councilor. He's way to idealistic to be an effective politician and he's unwilling to compromise on any of his stances.  He's unable to properly negotiate with the old council and if there's a new Council they don't even listen to him despite the fact that he is Chairman. As councilor, he has to be willing to make the hard choices and command respect of his fellow councilors, which he isn't able to do.

I'll admit, I too think Udina is an annoying jackass, but he's still the better of the two for the job.