Alright, so you've finished ME2. The Illusive Man is not too happy with you and you're now cruising around the galaxy in a superpowered Cerberus boat filled with fugitives and Cerberus personnel. It's not like you're going to be able to return to Cerberus and get away with what you've done. And I don't think that you'll be able to return to the Alliance very easily with an uprgraded Cerberus Normandy full of operatives. The Council won't like you running around with an unshackled AI onboard. Where can Shepard go?
You know.... where can Paragon Shepard go now?
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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 11:21
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You misunderstand.
Shepard holds all the cards.
Shepard holds all the cards.
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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 11:41
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AntiChri5 wrote...
You misunderstand.
Shepard holds all the cards.
I think this human understands.
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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 11:51
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Paragon Shepard could make peace between the Quarians and Geth, making a spot for himself on both the Migrant Fleet and Quarian homeworld. Then he would have tens of millions of Geth and Fleet ships to fight for him.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 02:13
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Zondergrod wrote...
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 03:20
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If he wants everyone to know the truth he can go organize a speech on Earth or something. He's paragon so he'll have most likely the option of the Council or the Alliance.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 04:15
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Shepard's a hero, he'll go wherever he wants. He *could* go back to the Alliance if he wanted to. Imagine the Alliance turning away Shepard and his upgraded and improved Normandy...it would be stupid of them.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 04:27
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Zinoviy wrote...
Shepard's a hero, he'll go wherever he wants. He *could* go back to the Alliance if he wanted to. Imagine the Alliance turning away Shepard and his upgraded and improved Normandy...it would be stupid of them.
True, but politics leads to stupidity. Would Shepard be worth the political baggage? And what about the Cerberus crew?
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 04:37
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ReconTeam wrote...
Zinoviy wrote...
Shepard's a hero, he'll go wherever he wants. He *could* go back to the Alliance if he wanted to. Imagine the Alliance turning away Shepard and his upgraded and improved Normandy...it would be stupid of them.
True, but politics leads to stupidity. Would Shepard be worth the political baggage? And what about the Cerberus crew?
Executed for treason and terrorism.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 04:52
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My guess is that paragon Shepard will strike out on his/her own and try to gain allies to help fight the Reapers. I think that that would be the most logical way of continuing the storyline of ME2.
I wouldn't be surprised if Shepard is forced to decide whether to ally with Cerberus or take over the organization. As for the Council, I don't really think that they will want Shepard back as a Specter... s/he has, by this time, become too much of a loose cannon.
I wouldn't be surprised if Shepard is forced to decide whether to ally with Cerberus or take over the organization. As for the Council, I don't really think that they will want Shepard back as a Specter... s/he has, by this time, become too much of a loose cannon.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 04:56
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The Alliance would probably impound the Normandy right away and interrogate anyone involved as to "HOW THE F*** DID YOU BUILD A BETTER NORMANDY THAN US?"MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...
ReconTeam wrote...
Zinoviy wrote...
Shepard's a hero, he'll go wherever he wants. He *could* go back to the Alliance if he wanted to. Imagine the Alliance turning away Shepard and his upgraded and improved Normandy...it would be stupid of them.
True, but politics leads to stupidity. Would Shepard be worth the political baggage? And what about the Cerberus crew?
Executed for treason and terrorism.
Cerberus would likely initiate a suicide protocol or worse, raid the Normandy to try to get it back.
Modifié par EtTuBrute, 27 juillet 2010 - 05:00 .
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 04:58
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Double post -__-
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 07:24
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AntiChri5 wrote...
You misunderstand.
Shepard holds all the cards.
I agree.
Shepard saved the whole crew and granted them their wishes: defeat the collectors. Plus many of them are ex-alliance and do not initially approve Cerberus.
Any survived squad mates are likely loyal(or else they would not survive) to Shepard, including Miranda, who is like Illusive Man's right hand.
Normandy is controlled by EDI, who is probably dead loyal to Joker, who is definitely dead loyal to Shepard. So Normandy is probably definitely Shepard's.
Cerberus' "annual income" is said to be several billions, and Shepard costs 4 billion and 2 years of time and that Lazarus facility destroyed. If Cerberus wants Shepard dead it may cost another 4 billion and 2 years and many other who-knows-what-project facilities.
I don't think Illusive Man is stupid enough to turn his back on Shepard and lose all these resources, at least not doing it openly.
So my guess is Cerberus is not going to break up with Shepard until some critical event in ME3, and before then Shepard can float in Space wherever he wants without worrying too much about Illusive Man backstabbing him.
You don't mess with Shepard.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 07:41
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a paragon shepard has friends all over the place, that will help him to defend the galaxy and give him a base of operations. some of them have entire planets and armies at their disposal. anyway cerberus isn't going to try to kill someone that is so essential to saving the galaxy (& humans).
it was fun watching miranda defy the illusive man without question when rigging the station to explode. she's clearly on shepard's side. though there may be a defector on the ship that'll **** things up. i wonder what excuse, if any they will use to: give the player an excuse to redesign shepard & to change the normandy & have old squad mates leave to make room for new ones.
it was fun watching miranda defy the illusive man without question when rigging the station to explode. she's clearly on shepard's side. though there may be a defector on the ship that'll **** things up. i wonder what excuse, if any they will use to: give the player an excuse to redesign shepard & to change the normandy & have old squad mates leave to make room for new ones.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 07:10
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Hmm, if I was in TIM's shoes, I'd consider Shepard "resourceful, but dangerous". Reviving him exactly the way he was is understandable (he might be less useful otherwise), but a failsafe here and there never hurts. So I might build a self-destruct mechanism into the Normandy that is completely isolated from EDI and any onboard network and can only be triggered through the quantum entaglement communicator. Just in case EDI goes rogue or someone steals the ship or some other emergency...
Shepard definetely has a strong position, but I think TIM is still in control, just barely. After all, Shepard needed the new Normandy to fight the collectors, but now that it is done, a paragon Shepard can ask Legion to remove any undesirable background apps from EDI (such as the "transmit all data to Cerberus"-task) and maybe let a few skilled mechanics on the migrant fleet check the ship for any "surprises" like the one I described above. So I think Cerberus is still a possible ally, but there is a chance that now TIM cooperates with Shepard and not Shepard with TIM as it used to be.
Shepard definetely has a strong position, but I think TIM is still in control, just barely. After all, Shepard needed the new Normandy to fight the collectors, but now that it is done, a paragon Shepard can ask Legion to remove any undesirable background apps from EDI (such as the "transmit all data to Cerberus"-task) and maybe let a few skilled mechanics on the migrant fleet check the ship for any "surprises" like the one I described above. So I think Cerberus is still a possible ally, but there is a chance that now TIM cooperates with Shepard and not Shepard with TIM as it used to be.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 07:11
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Pssh he's motherfunkin shepard biotch! he'll do whatever he wants
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 07:13
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sure. it'd be really sensible for cerberus to self-destruct the normandy. oh wait, that doesn't have any advantages at all for anyone.Ralnith wrote...
Hmm, if I was in TIM's shoes, I'd consider Shepard "resourceful, but dangerous". Reviving him exactly the way he was is understandable (he might be less useful otherwise), but a failsafe here and there never hurts. So I might build a self-destruct mechanism into the Normandy that is completely isolated from EDI and any onboard network and can only be triggered through the quantum entaglement communicator. Just in case EDI goes rogue or someone steals the ship or some other emergency...
Shepard definetely has a strong position, but I think TIM is still in control, just barely. After all, Shepard needed the new Normandy to fight the collectors, but now that it is done, a paragon Shepard can ask Legion to remove any undesirable background apps from EDI (such as the "transmit all data to Cerberus"-task) and maybe let a few skilled mechanics on the migrant fleet check the ship for any "surprises" like the one I described above. So I think Cerberus is still a possible ally, but there is a chance that now TIM cooperates with Shepard and not Shepard with TIM as it used to be.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 07:21
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Paragon Shepards can do whatever he/she wants since he holds all the cards like the above poster said. All Cerberus crew members are loyal to Shep because he saved them in the Suicide mission. Jacob never really liked TIM and Miranda resigned from Cerberus. Plus Paragon Shepards aren't a tool for TIM to use anymore. Renegades Shep remain a tool for TIM.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 07:34
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s0meguy6665 wrote...
sure. it'd be really sensible for cerberus to self-destruct the normandy. oh wait, that doesn't have any advantages at all for anyone.Ralnith wrote...
Hmm, if I was in TIM's shoes, I'd consider Shepard "resourceful, but dangerous". Reviving him exactly the way he was is understandable (he might be less useful otherwise), but a failsafe here and there never hurts. So I might build a self-destruct mechanism into the Normandy that is completely isolated from EDI and any onboard network and can only be triggered through the quantum entaglement communicator. Just in case EDI goes rogue or someone steals the ship or some other emergency...
Shepard definetely has a strong position, but I think TIM is still in control, just barely. After all, Shepard needed the new Normandy to fight the collectors, but now that it is done, a paragon Shepard can ask Legion to remove any undesirable background apps from EDI (such as the "transmit all data to Cerberus"-task) and maybe let a few skilled mechanics on the migrant fleet check the ship for any "surprises" like the one I described above. So I think Cerberus is still a possible ally, but there is a chance that now TIM cooperates with Shepard and not Shepard with TIM as it used to be.
It is an option for TIM: Shepard knows a lot about Cerberus and (as a Paragon) likely disagrees with it's methods. In fact, as a Spectre, bringing Cerberus down is part of his/her job and it would demonstrate the Council and the Alliance that he/she was really just using their resources and didn't join them. In addtion, the Normandy is full of Cerberus members with more or less inside info who may now be more loyal to Shepard than TIM.
Shepards objective was to stop the collectors. Once that is done, there is no reason to keep him/her alive. In case of paragon Shepard, keeping him/her alive is a gamble, as both Shepard and TIM know that one of them will sooner or later turn against the other. Considering Shepard's skill, it would be wise to make the first move. Even if TIM decides not to destroy the Normandy, he could still use that card if he must force Shepard to do something later.
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Posté 27 juillet 2010 - 08:27
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The Paragon Shepard does indeed hold all the cards. If he wants to keep the Normandy: SR2 and her crew (those that want to stay which I assume will be almost all of them), he can and he will.
The Alliance would put itself in a politically impossible position if they DIDN'T take Shepard back and offer a place for his ship and crew. Even if the alliance were that stupid, Paragon Shep has friends all over the place.
1. Paragon Shepard is still a Spectre. Furthermore with the report from the Collector Base, I am very sure the Council (if for nothing but political reasons) will be more than willing to give him a full "Bill of Health" including a pardon for any Cereberus Crew as long as they work under the direct command of Shepard (and thus the Citidel). Ironically, I can see the Turian Councilor being willing to suggest just this (in effect making Normandy the First Ship in an overreaching Citadel Navy).
2. Wrex is the big Honcho on Tuchanka, and Wrex would be more than willing to give the Normandy berthing facilities. [At the very least....Wrex's biggest problem might be keeping Shepard from being flooded with young Krogan wanting to prove 'they have a quad' by signing up on the Normandy.]
3. Don't forget Samara. Samara is not only a Justicar but an Asari Matriarch, and when an Asari Matriarch speaks, the Asari Republics listen. Samara's word alone (not to mention being the savior of the Destiny Ascension) is likely enough to insure that Shepart has safe harbor not only in Illium but all of Asari space.
4. Let's also not forget Prof Solus and Capt Kirrahe (sp?) of the SSTG. The Salarian Special Tasks Group would me more than willing to give Paragon Shep a helping hand even in defiance of the Salarian Govt if need be.
That's not to mention that Shepard would certainly have safe berth in the Migrant Fleet and possibly (true) Geth Space and there is no way that the council races have the fleet to take on either (let alone both)....and that's not even considering the Rachni owe Paragon Shep big time.
The point being, Paragon Shep has tons of places to go. The Alliance's best move is to eat crow and pretend to like it and act as they they had the legendy Commander Shepard undercover the whole time (and almost Certainly -- see my first point-- that's what the Citidel Council will do).
-Polaris
The Alliance would put itself in a politically impossible position if they DIDN'T take Shepard back and offer a place for his ship and crew. Even if the alliance were that stupid, Paragon Shep has friends all over the place.
1. Paragon Shepard is still a Spectre. Furthermore with the report from the Collector Base, I am very sure the Council (if for nothing but political reasons) will be more than willing to give him a full "Bill of Health" including a pardon for any Cereberus Crew as long as they work under the direct command of Shepard (and thus the Citidel). Ironically, I can see the Turian Councilor being willing to suggest just this (in effect making Normandy the First Ship in an overreaching Citadel Navy).
2. Wrex is the big Honcho on Tuchanka, and Wrex would be more than willing to give the Normandy berthing facilities. [At the very least....Wrex's biggest problem might be keeping Shepard from being flooded with young Krogan wanting to prove 'they have a quad' by signing up on the Normandy.]
3. Don't forget Samara. Samara is not only a Justicar but an Asari Matriarch, and when an Asari Matriarch speaks, the Asari Republics listen. Samara's word alone (not to mention being the savior of the Destiny Ascension) is likely enough to insure that Shepart has safe harbor not only in Illium but all of Asari space.
4. Let's also not forget Prof Solus and Capt Kirrahe (sp?) of the SSTG. The Salarian Special Tasks Group would me more than willing to give Paragon Shep a helping hand even in defiance of the Salarian Govt if need be.
That's not to mention that Shepard would certainly have safe berth in the Migrant Fleet and possibly (true) Geth Space and there is no way that the council races have the fleet to take on either (let alone both)....and that's not even considering the Rachni owe Paragon Shep big time.
The point being, Paragon Shep has tons of places to go. The Alliance's best move is to eat crow and pretend to like it and act as they they had the legendy Commander Shepard undercover the whole time (and almost Certainly -- see my first point-- that's what the Citidel Council will do).
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