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[tee_bird]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Non-Romanceable Characters and Demographics

Legion is destroying that poll so far!

He would have been my second choice.  My first was Grunt because krogan are awesome.

[Water Dumple]

mrsph wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

He's a troll. His gimmick is to **** up every thread with "I'm older than all of you" and "Tali sucks you're all immature"

Seems to be the case, looking at some other posts...I didn't really expect it as I never noticed those posts when I lurked and those aren't typical troll characteristics.

Well, the elitism is, but the other stuff is less usual.

[Kikaimegami]

tee_bird wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

tee_bird wrote...

Female, 21. My vote went to Garrus.

Garrus is the only logical choice here.

Heck yeah!  He was the one I wanted to romance in ME 1, but that option wasn't available.

You aren't the only one

[Spornicus]

Under 25 male, Ashley, Garrus, Mordin.

[tee_bird]

Kikaimegami wrote...

tee_bird wrote...

Heck yeah!  He was the one I wanted to romance in ME 1, but that option wasn't available.

You aren't the only one

It's hard to resist his waist and fringe.

Modifié par tee_bird, 28 juillet 2010 - 02:33 .

[Water Dumple]

Let's have another look at the results.





...Yeah, the Legion bar pretty much just grew a whole bunch. Guess that's predictable given how it was right after the poll was set up. Looks like there are more Kasumi voters by now, though.

[angj57]

Water Dumple wrote...

Let's have another look at the results.





...Yeah, the Legion bar pretty much just grew a whole bunch. Guess that's predictable given how it was right after the poll was set up. Looks like there are more Kasumi voters by now, though.

I am guessing the two appeal to different demographics:

Legion: a unique character with a lot of thought provoking dialogue
Kasumi: a stereotypically "hot" character who barely speaks

[kraze07]

angj57 wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Let's have another look at the results.





...Yeah, the Legion bar pretty much just grew a whole bunch. Guess that's predictable given how it was right after the poll was set up. Looks like there are more Kasumi voters by now, though.

I am guessing the two appeal to different demographics:

Legion: a unique character with a lot of thought provoking dialogue
Kasumi: a stereotypically "hot" character who barely speaks

And here I thought she talked too much for being a thief who no ones knows exists.

[Annie_Dear]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Non-Romanceable Characters and Demographics

Legion is destroying that poll so far!

It looks like I'm one of the 5 women who voted for Zaeed...

Oh well, I still like him the most

[Pacifien]

Results of Female Love Interest Poll as of 554 Votes
427 males have voted -> 77% of the voters
127 females have voted -> 23% of the voters

385 people 25 years of age or under have voted -> 70% of the voters
169 people over the age of 25 have voted -> 30% of the voters

Percentage of All Votes
Tali with 162 votes -> 29%
Liara with 135 votes -> 24%
Ashley with 98 votes -> 18%
Miranda with 81 votes -> 15%
Jack with 78 votes -> 14%

Percentage of Votes Among Males
Tali with 136 votes -> 32%
Liara with 105 votes -> 24%
Ashley with 72 votes -> 17%
Miranda with 68 votes -> 16%
Jack with 46 votes -> 11%

Percentage of Votes Among Females
Jack with 32 votes -> 25%
Liara with 30 votes -> 24%
Ashley with 26 votes -> 20%
Tali with 26 votes -> 20%
Miranda with 13 votes -> 10%

Percentage of Votes 25 Years of Age or Younger
Tali with 125 votes -> 32%
Liara with 87 votes -> 23%
Ashley with 64 votes -> 17%
Miranda with 55 votes -> 14%
Jack with 54 votes -> 14%

Percentage of Votes over 25 Years of Age
Liara with 48 votes -> 28%
Tali with 37 votes -> 22%
Ashley with 34 votes -> 20%
Miranda with 26 votes -> 15%
Jack with 24 votes -> 14%

Ashley - 98 votes
72 males voted -> 73%
26 females voted -> 27%
64 people 25 years old or younger voted -> 65%
34 people over 25 years old voted -> 35%

Jack - 78 votes
46 males voted -> 59%
32 females voted -> 41%
54 people 25 years old or younger voted -> 69%
24 people over 25 years old voted -> 31%

Liara - 135 votes
105 males voted -> 77%
30 females voted -> 22%
87 people 25 years old or younger voted -> 64%
48 people over 25 years old voted -> 36%

Miranda - 81 votes
68 males voted -> 84%
13 females voted -> 16%
55 people 25 years old or younger voted -> 68%
26 people over 25 years old voted -> 32%

Tali - 162 votes
136 males voted - 84%
26 females voted - 16%
125 people 25 years old or younger voted -> 77%
37 people over 26 years old voted -> 23%

[Kroesis-]

So.. how would you summarise these results?

[Pacifien]

Kroesis- wrote...
So.. how would you summarise these results?

At this point, I wouldn't. Need more data!

[Cerrydd]

Under 25, Garrus, Jack and Grunt.

I find it interesting that the 9 votes for Jacob came from men.

[Cerrydd]

(sorry, double, but the edit button is causing some trouble)

Pacifien, you have the wrong month in the thread title. I thought it was my birthday again

[Pacifien]

Cerrydd wrote...
Pacifien, you have the wrong month in the thread title. I thought it was my birthday again

Damn. Maybe it's because I really hate August. Next up, the men of ME.

[Pacifien]

Results of Male Love Interest Poll as of 323 Votes
167 Females Voted -> 52%
156 Males Voted -> 48%

193 people under 25 voted -> 60%
130 people over 25 voted -> 40%

Percentage of All Votes - 323 votes
Garrus, 144 votes -> 45%
Kaidan, 101 votes -> 31%
Thane, 69 votes -> 21%
Jacob, 9 votes -> 3%

Percentage of Votes Among Females - 167 votes
Kaidan, 73 votes -> 44%
Garrus, 57 votes -> 34%
Thane, 37 votes -> 22%
Jacob, 0 votes -> 0%

Percentage of Votes Among Males - 156 votes
Garrus, 87 votes -> 56%
Thane, 32 votes -> 21%
Kaidan, 28 votes -> 18%
Jacob, 9 votes -> 6%

Percentage of Votes Under 25 Years Old - 193 votes
Garrus, 101 votes -> 52%
Thane, 48 votes -> 25%
Kaidan, 39 votes -> 20%
Jacob, 5 votes -> 3%

Percentage of Votes Over 25 Years Old - 130 votes
Kaidan, 62 votes -> 48%
Garrus, 43 votes -> 33%
Thane, 21 votes -> 16%
Jacob, 4 votes -> 3%

Garrus - 144 votes
57 Females Voted -> 40%
87 Males Voted -> 60%
101 Under 25 Voted -> 70%
43 Over 25 Voted -> 30%

Jacob - 9 votes
0 Females Voted -> 0%
9 Males Voted -> 100%
5 Under 25 Voted -> 56%
4 Over 25 Voted -> 44%

Kaidan - 101 votes
73 Females Voted -> 72%
28 Males Voted -> 28%
39 Under 25 Voted -> 39%
62 Over 25 Voted -> 61%

Thane - 69 Votes
37 Females Voted -> 54%
32 Males Voted -> 46%
48 Under 25 Voted -> 70%
21 Under 25 Voted -> 30%

[Siansonea]

mrsph wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

He's a troll. His gimmick is to **** up every thread with "I'm older than all of you" and "Tali sucks you're all immature"

Wait a second, are you talking about me? First off, I'm a woman. And I am older than all of you, "it's just a fact" as Miranda would say. Believe me, I'm not that jazzed about it either.

[Siansonea]

Water Dumple wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

He's a troll. His gimmick is to **** up every thread with "I'm older than all of you" and "Tali sucks you're all immature"

Seems to be the case, looking at some other posts...I didn't really expect it as I never noticed those posts when I lurked and those aren't typical troll characteristics.

Well, the elitism is, but the other stuff is less usual.

So, because I have a viewpoint that differs from your own I am a troll? That's convenient. I don't care what you call me, if it makes you feel better to dismiss me as a troll rather than evaluate what I say based on its own merit, that's your prerogative. I certainly don't harbor any ill will toward anyone on the boards, even the Talimancers who make me shake my head at their hypersexualization of the character. (For the record, I shake my head at the hypersexualization of all characters, it just seems more pronounced with Tali than with other characters due to the size of the character's fan base.)

My main point was that the Tali character was created and expanded to appeal to a certain demographic. In my opinion that demographic has embraced the character out of all proportion to the character's merits, seemingly without any awareness that they were responding to biological and social programming. One only has to look at the multitude of 'dat as$' posts to see evidence to support my observation.

I stand behind my assertion that a huge part of Tali's popularity can be attributed to her waist-to-hips ratio. She's got more "junk in her trunk" than any other female in the game, and I'm just supposed to think it's a coincidence that young males flock to her more than any other female in the game? I'm sorry, but quarians aren't that interesting. It's not judgemental to make this observation, and I don't know why people are so defensive about it. The human race would probably die out if males weren't programmed to respond to certain female physical characteristics. We females have our own programming to deal with, so it's not a gender-specific issue.

If you're going to be a Tali fan, that's fine, but do so knowing that you're a fan of a character who has been very precisely calculated to achieve that very goal. It really does come down to some basic mathematics, which BioWare has used to great effect with the character. Don't feel bad about it, don't feel anything about it. Just know it.

[Kikaimegami]

Pssst Siansonea II



You can say "DAT ASS". It's not filtered



I think I must be broken, because I totally don't see the appeal in Kaidan other than the fact that he's my migraine buddy.

[Siansonea]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Pssst Siansonea II

You can say "DAT ASS". It's not filtered

I think I must be broken, because I totally don't see the appeal in Kaidan other than the fact that he's my migraine buddy.

Thanks Kikaimegami.

Kaidan was created to appeal to females, but it seems his appeal trends older than they probably expected. I think the character isn't 'tough' enough in some people's estimation, thus lowering his appeal among younger females to an extent. There's nothing dangerous about Kaidan, so his appeal is limited by that. I think Jacob was an attempt to appeal to those females who weren't enthusiastic about Kaidan, but it would seem they missed the mark by most people's estimation.

[Kikaimegami]

Eh, I'm almost 30, female, and I'm just not feeling any attraction to Kaidan. Then again, though, it could just be that I find Garrus more appealing and that's why Kaidan gets the boot. In a real life romance, Kaidan would get more points, of course, but this is fantasy



Jacob is just.. dull. Plus, the whole romance totally rubs me the wrong way.



Actually, all of the ME1 romances don't really do it for me. They all seem horribly forced. I think that's probably why I find Garrus and Tali more appealing, because the actual romance plots seem more genuine.

[Water Dumple]

Siansonea II wrote...
So, because I have a viewpoint that differs from your own I am a troll? That's convenient. I don't care what you call me, if it makes you feel better to dismiss me as a troll rather than evaluate what I say based on its own merit, that's your prerogative.

I wasn't referring to you, thought I was in another thread with that one. Mix-up in communication, relax.

I certainly don't harbor any ill will toward anyone on the boards, even the Talimancers who make me shake my head at their hypersexualization of the character. (For the record, I shake my head at the hypersexualization of all characters, it just seems more pronounced with Tali than with other characters due to the size of the character's fan base.)

I stand behind my assertion that a huge part of Tali's popularity  can be attributed to her waist-to-hips ratio. She's got more "junk in her trunk" than any other female in the game, and I'm just supposed to think it's a coincidence that young males flock to her more than any other female in the game? I'm sorry, but quarians aren't that interesting. It's not judgemental to make this observation, and I don't know why people are so defensive about it. The human race would probably die out if males weren't programmed to respond to certain female physical characteristics. We females have our own programming to deal with, so it's not a gender-specific issue.

I agree about with your views on the hypersexualization of any character regardless of the game, but personally I don't think it was a purposeful act in designing the character (meaning that I don't think Tali was purposefully oversexed at all...if she was, it went over my head and it's not why I like the character). Reason is, just about every Quarian has a body structure like that; it goes hand in hand with their three fingers two toes thing, both the males and females stand that way, which just seems like a way to make them differ from humans. (Turians have pretty wide hips too, y'know.)

Personally, it's not even why I like the character or the race; I just think the Quarians have a very imaginative backstory, and I think that just as much now as when I played ME1 for the first time and read the codex entries about them. Maybe I haven't read enough sci-fi, but I find the concept of a race existing entirely on a series of mobile platforms pretty interesting, even moreso when you add in the backstory with the Geth and all that. (Ties in with why I like Legion.) Specific to Tali, I think she was voiced well, has the best loyalty mission, and the best theme in the game (to name a couple reasons why I think she is a well-designed character, though I do have a few others). Really, Jack and Miranda seem far more oversexed to me.

Then I saw this forum about a month ago and found that Tali is apparently the most popular character from ME2, but for entirely different reasons than mine. >_> Of course, it doesn't stop me from getting pigeonholed in as a generic member of the "horde" because of social stereotyping. That's my main gripe with the situation: Immature members of the community rally around a specific image (in this case, a specific character), which has a direct influence on the way the rest of us are viewed, regardless of whether we side with them, oppose them, or attempt to remain neutral. If Tali was male and not an LI, I would probably feel almost exactly the same about the character and I'm not giving any baseless conjecture when I say that. If "He" would still be a Quarian, have a good voice actor, a good theme, a good loyalty mission, insightful dialogue, and was useful as a squadmate, hell yes he would be my favorite character. For reference, I like Garrus and Legion just as much as Tali.

If you're going to be a Tali fan, that's fine, but do so knowing that
you're a fan of a character who has been very precisely calculated to
achieve that very goal. It really does come down to some basic
mathematics, which BioWare has used to great effect with the character.
Don't feel bad about it, don't feel anything about it. Just know it.

This is practically self-evident: Products and their aspects thereof are designed to appeal to certain classes of people. If the Talimancers don't recognize that, then their problems run deeper than I thought...

Edit: Fixed a weird formatting thing BBC caused.

Modifié par Water Dumple, 28 juillet 2010 - 07:20 .

[Elvis_Mazur]

I'm 18 years old boy and I would have voted for Samara but since she is not in the poll, I had to vote for Miranda.

[SlottsMachine]

Second post on da BSN yo. Such humble beginnings. 

Modifié par General Slotts, 13 décembre 2013 - 05:44 .

[Kikaimegami]

GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

ah, sh** i thought if you romanced someone enough bioware would package them up and send them to you, almost like a mail order bride sort of thing.

ah well i guess i just throw my copy of mass effect in the trash, so many wasted hours

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