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[MACGRUBER7691]

Sure the dialouge wheel allows for a more cinematic approach but it  simplifys your responces and robs you of the intamacy with your character. Will we ever see a return to our beloved dialouge trees or are we doomed to the wheels forever ?

[MACGRUBER7691]

By dialouge wheels I guess I'm, refering to the new way you communicate by choosing a vauge response and then hear your character say something thats in the spirit of what you said.

[Kevin Lynch]

Depends on the game and what Bio's style decisions are for that game. As long as they are going for that cinematic, quick-reply approach, they will likely continue with it. After all, if it works for them and the majority of the people that play the game, they are going to stick with it.



My only trouble with the shorter responses is when they don't accurately reflect the meaning of the longer dialogue. That bugs me to death and is probably the only reason I ever reload due to a dialogue choice. They really have to be careful about making the shorter choice mean exactly what the player thinks it means.

[Bryy_Miller]

MACGRUBER7691 wrote...

Sure the dialouge wheel allows for a more cinematic approach but it  simplifys your responces and robs you of the intamacy with your character. Will we ever see a return to our beloved dialouge trees or are we doomed to the wheels forever ?

I don't think you understand what "dialogue tree" means. Any branching conversation is a dialogue tree.

[BlackyBlack]

I don't need dialogue trees, only this, and everybody's happy. My thread has an easy solution to this problem

Modifié par BlackyBlack, 27 juillet 2010 - 11:39 .

[angj57]

I think you are confusing terms. All bioware games have dialogue trees. The only difference is that with one system, responses are written out and the character is voiceless and silent; whereas in the other system your responses are contracted, but you can listen to your character speak in a cinematic way.

A dialogue tree just means that chosing one response will give certain options whereas chosing another response will give other options, and so on and so on. Both systems have dialogue trees. If you objectively compare Mass Effect and Dragon Age Origins, there are just as many options, which lead to just as many other options in Mass Effect. In both games, you have some very detailed conversations with many options and some contracted conversations without many options.

[Bobad]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

MACGRUBER7691 wrote...

Sure the dialouge wheel allows for a more cinematic approach but it  simplifys your responces and robs you of the intamacy with your character. Will we ever see a return to our beloved dialouge trees or are we doomed to the wheels forever ?

I don't think you understand what "dialogue tree" means. Any branching conversation is a dialogue tree.

I'd agree with this, to me the difference is the same as a bar chart as to a pie graph, different representations of the same information., it seems to be the para-phrasing that gets most people annoyed

[MACGRUBER7691]

Ok, ok, ok, I know what a dialouge tree is. In retrospect that was a bad use of words. I'm refering to the classic way bioware used to do things. You respond in first person and you choose exactly what your character says. This way seemed to allow a lot more freedom in what you could say beyond nice, apathetic, mean at least with the way bioware utilizes the dialouge wheel. I miss being able to play a sarcastic guy that good naturdly teases people.

[UberDuber]

Please Bioware I hate the god damn Mass Effect wheel ... damn I hate Mass effect I bought it thinking oh BioWare! then I played it for about an hour an could not get into it.It just bored the hell out of me.

[angj57]

Kordaris wrote...

Kevin Lynch wrote...
t. After all, if it works for them and the majority of the people that play the game, they are going to stick with it.

The question of course is if Bioware wants majority of gamers or RPG gamers. After all majority of gamers prefer God of War and Modern Warfare. Are Bioware games getting closer to that genre...You decide.

Of course, there are a lot of RPG gamers who enjoy Bioware's recent games . . .

UberDuber wrote...

Please Bioware I hate the god damn Mass Effect wheel ... damn I hate Mass effect I bought it thinking oh BioWare! then I played it for about an hour an could not get into it.It just bored the hell out of me.

I'm sorry you hate it. I love it. So there you go.

Modifié par angj57, 28 juillet 2010 - 01:25 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Kordaris wrote...

Kevin Lynch wrote...
t. After all, if it works for them and the majority of the people that play the game, they are going to stick with it.

The question of course is if Bioware wants majority of gamers or RPG gamers. After all majority of gamers prefer God of War and Modern Warfare. Are Bioware games getting closer to that genre...You decide.

When people compare Mass Effect 2 to MW2 or even fricking GoW.... I get a belly full of lulz.

[2papercuts]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Kevin Lynch wrote...
t. After all, if it works for them and the majority of the people that play the game, they are going to stick with it.

The question of course is if Bioware wants majority of gamers or RPG gamers. After all majority of gamers prefer God of War and Modern Warfare. Are Bioware games getting closer to that genre...You decide.

When people compare Mass Effect 2 to MW2 or even fricking GoW.... I get a belly full of lulz.

um... why?

[Maverick827]

2papercuts wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Kevin Lynch wrote...
t. After all, if it works for them and the majority of the people that play the game, they are going to stick with it.

The question of course is if Bioware wants majority of gamers or RPG gamers. After all majority of gamers prefer God of War and Modern Warfare. Are Bioware games getting closer to that genre...You decide.

When people compare Mass Effect 2 to MW2 or even fricking GoW.... I get a belly full of lulz.

um... why?

Because they're completely different games?

[2papercuts]

Maverick827 wrote...

2papercuts wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Kevin Lynch wrote...
t. After all, if it works for them and the majority of the people that play the game, they are going to stick with it.

The question of course is if Bioware wants majority of gamers or RPG gamers. After all majority of gamers prefer God of War and Modern Warfare. Are Bioware games getting closer to that genre...You decide.

When people compare Mass Effect 2 to MW2 or even fricking GoW.... I get a belly full of lulz.

um... why?

Because they're completely different games?

in terms of gameplay, ME2 and GoW2 were not that different

Modifié par 2papercuts, 28 juillet 2010 - 03:24 .

[GardenSnake]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Kevin Lynch wrote...
t. After all, if it works for them and the majority of the people that play the game, they are going to stick with it.

The question of course is if Bioware wants majority of gamers or RPG gamers. After all majority of gamers prefer God of War and Modern Warfare. Are Bioware games getting closer to that genre...You decide.

When people compare Mass Effect 2 to MW2 or even fricking GoW.... I get a belly full of lulz.

Assuming you meant God Of War than yes, the comparison is a bit ridiculous. But Gears of War? Now THAT is a good and frightening comparison. The games are practically identical in terms of shooting mechanics. ME2 doesn't have a chainsaw, but either than that, the similarities are very clear.

[2papercuts]

GardenSnake wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Kevin Lynch wrote...
t. After all, if it works for them and the majority of the people that play the game, they are going to stick with it.

The question of course is if Bioware wants majority of gamers or RPG gamers. After all majority of gamers prefer God of War and Modern Warfare. Are Bioware games getting closer to that genre...You decide.

When people compare Mass Effect 2 to MW2 or even fricking GoW.... I get a belly full of lulz.

Assuming you meant God Of War than yes, the comparison is a bit ridiculous. But Gears of War? Now THAT is a good and frightening comparison. The games are practically identical in terms of shooting mechanics. ME2 doesn't have a chainsaw, but either than that, the similarities are very clear.

yeah which are you talking about

Modifié par 2papercuts, 28 juillet 2010 - 03:58 .

[Bryy_Miller]

ME2 is not even close to Gear. I'm sorry, but it's not. What? Oh, you have a COVER SYSTEM in both games?

[The Hardest Thing In The World]

Eh, Muzyka led his minions to chop down that tree and made a bonfire out of it. So we won't see it again, I'm afraid.

[javierabegazo]

http://social.biowar...1/index/3206226