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[Mars Nova]

I give it a 4/5.  I'd give it 5/5, except for when it refers to Udina as Councilor.  That upset me greatly at first, but I'm willing to accept that it was just an error on Drew's part rather than some attempt to create a canon regarding player choices.  But I still have to deduct a point.

Anyone else expecting/hoping for Kai Leng to show up as a squadmate in ME3?

[darknoon5]

Mars Nova wrote...


Anyone else expecting/hoping for Kai Leng to show up as a squadmate in ME3?

Yeah, it'd be great to have a true renegade as a squadmate, which is what I was hoping for with Mordin.

[Barquiel]

Mars Nova wrote...

Anyone else expecting/hoping for Kai Leng to show up as a squadmate in ME3?

No...
I'd rather turn him over to Aria, disturbing character.

[darknoon5]

Barquiel wrote...

Mars Nova wrote...

Anyone else expecting/hoping for Kai Leng to show up as a squadmate in ME3?

No...
I'd rather turn him over to Aria, disturbing character.

That's what makes him interesting.
Are you really so two-dimensional as to tell me you don't think he's interesting?
Plus he's former n7 and is extremely resilient, he's already good squad mate content-more qualified then Kaidan and Ash considering they're not n7, infact.

[Barquiel]

He is interesting...and I'd like to see him as a villain in ME3, but not as a squadmate.

[dreman9999]

darknoon5 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Mars Nova wrote...

Anyone else expecting/hoping for Kai Leng to show up as a squadmate in ME3?

No...
I'd rather turn him over to Aria, disturbing character.

That's what makes him interesting.
Are you really so two-dimensional as to tell me you don't think he's interesting?
Plus he's former n7 and is extremely resilient, he's already good squad mate content-more qualified then Kaidan and Ash considering they're not n7, infact.

Yes, he's a good fighter and interesting but I can take his mindless disgust and hate.

[dreman9999]

Shandepared wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

No...
I'd rather turn him over to Aria, disturbing character.

I'm hoping I can end Aria the way  I did Patriarch and Wrex.

Ok........what did Wrex do for you to hate him?

[tonnactus]

darknoon5 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Mars Nova wrote...

Anyone else expecting/hoping for Kai Leng to show up as a squadmate in ME3?

No...
I'd rather turn him over to Aria, disturbing character.

That's what makes him interesting.
Are you really so two-dimensional as to tell me you don't think he's interesting?
Plus he's former n7 and is extremely resilient, he's already good squad mate content-more qualified then Kaidan and Ash considering they're not n7, infact.

He is a piece of s.h.it. .Something like this i dont need in my squad no matter what skills he have.Ashley and kaidan
proove that they are equal to all other specialists in practice when they help shepardt to stop souvereign and the geth.

[dreman9999]

Shandepared wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Ok........what did Wrex do for you to hate him?

Threatened to kill me.

Even I killed him with my 4th Shepard for the same reason and even he did like doing it. And that Shepard loved to kill and hurt people......well, only Strong people. He want Wrex to beried with honours. He just want to cure his people.

[Pacifien]

Shandepared wrote...
I never said TIM was better than Aria (though I think that could easily be argued seeing as he's fighting for something greater than himself), but I did say Aria is a criminal not worthy of sympathy. You're acting like you're her damn lawyer.

Sympathize with her all you want, but you're sympathizing with a murderer and a thug.

I don't have much sympathy for Aria. For one, as Shepard, Aria is really beneath my concern. Second of all, she can take care of herself. The day she can't, that's how Omega works. She gained control because she was stronger and smarter than Patriarch. If she falls, either it's dumb luck or someone was stronger and smarter than her. Either way, Omega doesn't care.

I don't have much sympathy for the Illusive Man. As I've said before, he makes a great antagonist because of how I can see his methods gaining supporters in this forum. This makes it entirely believable how he manages to gain loyal followers within the ME universe if he can manage it in our own world. No amount of good, though, gives the Illusive Man a free pass for his life. Like Dr. Archer, the Illusive Man should know what he's done is unethical. He believes it is worth it, and I don't doubt at all that the Alliance has gained much from Cerberus's many research projects. They've even benefited from what happened to Paul Grayson.

Still, for all of that, if I had the Illusive Man in my sights, if he stood there listing off everything Cerberus has done for humanity and how much more it can yet do, it's not enough. He dies. And like Omega with Aria, humanity doesn't care. Perhaps another Illusive Man steps up. Another sinister organization working for humanity. There will always be that battle. Doesn't mean Shepard has to be the one to fight them.

[tonnactus]

Shandepared wrote...


TIM never led any attack

He is the leader of cerberus.And leaders are responsible for things their underlings did. And i doubt that he was so dumb that he really believed that the infiltration of the flotilla wont lead to death of quarians.And his underlings killed quarians before.

and in any case the Flotilla had it coming.

Gillian was a human and not a property of anyone.(the arguments you used in other threats)
The quarians did nothing to deserve dead.

[dreman9999]

Shandepared wrote...

tonnactus wrote...


No. But first: In a place without law no one is a "crime boss".
And Aria seems to be one of the best leaders omega had.I doubt that the patriarch would care about civilian casualties.

To compare her with "tim": I doubt he cared when he led attack the flotilla...

TIM never led any attack and in any case the Flotilla had it coming. They weren't some innocent victim in that case.

I never said TIM was better than Aria (though I think that could easily be argued seeing as he's fighting for something greater than himself), but I did say Aria is a criminal not worthy of sympathy. You're acting like you're her damn lawyer. '

Sympathize with her all you want, but you're sympathizing with a murderer and a thug.

Your saying that TIM did know people on both sides would die dure Gillian's failed extraction?
And No, the Flotilla was innocent. They were helping an innocent girl hide from a moraly corrupt organization.
Also, Aria is below your consern, She only goes after people who crossed her, like Shepard. Also, Omega is better for her being there.

[tonnactus]

Shandepared wrote...


They sheltered an asset Cerberus was interested in. Bad move on their part.

They killed and tortured quarians before.Without that,lemm never investigated and help gillian.

[dreman9999]

Shandepared wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Even I killed him with my 4th Shepard for the same reason and even he did like doing it. And that Shepard loved to kill and hurt people......well, only Strong people. He want Wrex to beried with honours. He just want to cure his people.

My Shepard dumped that traitor in the swamp and agreed with Garrus, Tali, and Liara that the team was stronger without him. Realistically, even if Wrex had been talked down my Shepard wouldn't have trusted him in the base. Faced with a cure right in front of him Wrex might have gotten ideas.

.....But in my other 4 playthroughs.....He didn't.

[spirosz]

Anyone have an idea of what Kahlee whispered to Grayson?

[DirtyVagrant]

spiros9110 wrote...

Anyone have an idea of what Kahlee whispered to Grayson?

Rosebud.

[ThisIsMadness91]

Seeing as how a lot of things in Ascension appeared in ME2 (the Illusive Man, Omega, the Collectors, etc.), I think it's possible that Kai will appear in ME3.

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

spiros9110 wrote...

Anyone have an idea of what Kahlee whispered to Grayson?

Gillian's safe.?
I love you.?
I'm sorry.?
who knows

[Giggles_Manically]

The Cake is a lie!

[didymos1120]

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...
Maybe I misinterpreted what was going on, then. But when she said "nobody leaves alive", and when she didn't seem to care much when the humans are revealed to be dead, it leads me to believe that this version of Aria isn't as interested in avoiding civilian casualties as the one that appears in Retribution, as if she was only interested in making sure nobody found out the Collectors were ever on Omega.

She doesn't really care about civilians per se.  This is not evidence of deep concern for people's well-being:

"Civlian casualties should be minimized, but I won't hold anyone responsible for collateral damage."  The attendant nodded and rushed off to relay the orders.

Aria watched her go, sipping her drink while she thought about how she would have her revenge against Cerberus and the Illusive Man.

It's called being PR conscious and realistic:  Grayson is rampaging through residential and business districts at that point.  Aria can't afford to wantonly destroy anyone or anything she wants on Omega, at any time she wants.  Her power is far from absolute and she simply doesn't have the resources to impose an iron grip on the whole station.   She tries going all "scorched earth" all the time, and people with actual means will have plenty of motive to see her gone.  Eventually, they'll do something about it.

By contrast, in Incursion, there was a  deal going down in an out of the way area without a bunch of witnesses, and nobody was going to care too much about a few dead mercs, penniless slaves, and some Collectors anyway.  No real reason to minimize "collateral damage", and besides, trying to save the humans would have made it extremely difficult to achieve the actual goal: kill the Suns and Collectors.  All of them.