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[dreman9999]

Shandepared wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

What, The Man was trying to servive. He was not in tne thick of it fighting a god fight, he was just trying to make it through the day.

No, when the station was attacked the Illusive Man decided to try and reach Grayson's cell and terminate him rather than escape and risk Grayson being unleashed on the galaxy. His actions there prove that not only is TIM willing to risk his own life to fight the Reapers but he's even willing to die to save humanity if necessary. Obviously he doesn't want to die but then who does?

Ruthless and egostical as he might be nobody can claim he's a coward.

Not Ture, Sure he went back to kill Grayson but he was soon too overwhiled to keep fight. He servived the fight with the turians because of his stealth assasin Kai Leng back stabing  and killing in hand to hand combat all the  heavy armed turians. They both ran off to the escape pods. TIM want to ask Kai if he killed Grayson but knew if he answered "No" they could not leave. He left to save his own life.

[Pacifien]

I'd say there was still time for Kai Leng to kill Grayson if the Illusive Man was actually willing to sacrifice everything to see Grayson stopped. But he wasn't. Can't blame him for that single moment of time, because the instinct to survive is rather strong. 'Course, that doesn't give him that slimmer of humanity that makes me forgive him for anything else he's done.

I like the Illusive Man as the antagonist. They try to reign in that "MWUAHAHAHAHA! I'm EVILE! AN EVILE GENIIIIUS!" quality, even make him question if he's in danger of falling into that trap. His inner beratement after the attack on the research station was an eye opener to himself that he's almost to that point.

But if the man was standing before Shepard, selling me on his beliefs, goals, and methods, I'd probably still shoot him between the eyes after he's said his fill. Reminds me of the Operative from Serenity who knew he did evil, knew he'd never have a place in the real world, knew his life was forfeit for his deeds. Or even Bud from Kill Bill who says he knew they all had to die for what they did (but so did the Bride). For all the Illusive Man does, he fully deserves death. Should someone catch him.

[NICKjnp]

For playthrough here on out... the crew gets liquified. I'm tottaly goint to assist Aria in getting revenge against Cerberus for her daughter. Also... I thought it made Aria much more dangerous in the book. And more like Aleena when she said try to avoid civilian casualties when they were chasing down Grayson.

Sidenote - Damn You Karpyshyn!  I have a rare name that nobody knows in English cultures.  You just had use it when you killed the security guard at the Ascension Project.  You made me a red shirt.

Modifié par NICKjnp, 30 juillet 2010 - 05:54 .

[Mallissin]

makenzieshepard wrote...
"We are the keepers of the cycle.  The
creators and the destroyers.  Your existence is a flicker, a spark.  We
can extinguish it-or we can preserve it.   Submit to us and we can make
you immortal."

Nice. Plays into my Reaper theory.

http://social.biowar...5/index/1513253

They need us to have babies.

Modifié par Mallissin, 30 juillet 2010 - 07:21 .

[Funker Shepard]

I'm more interested in what this puts on the table re: Mass Effect 3.

1) We get Kai Leng as a probable 'Dragon' type villain/foil.

2) Anderson is both removed from his political position and shown as a man still able to fight quite well (and former N7 graduate). Anderson as squadmate?

3) The Turians press a reset button on Cerberus, making sure that whatever the setup for ME3, Cerberus won't be at their peak power in the beginning.

Anything else? I think we should start to expect a cameo from Kahlee at some point, but that's all I was able to pick up from the book...

[tonnactus]

I would be fine if i could give aria the head of the illusive man on a table at the end of Mass Effect 3.Together with that of kai leng.Two pieces of ****.

[chapa3]

Shepard and 2 squadmates seem to be able to do that with ease.

[Asheer_Khan]

Choice is easy... team up with Aria and Liara and finally kick TiM deep in to Hades where real Cerberus will made sure that our "dearest" timmy will never ever again threat anyone...

[dreman9999]

Shandepared wrote...

Yeah, team up with the murderous "Pirate Queen" of the most crime-ridden hellhole in the galaxy.

Way to take the moral highroad.

Hey, she brings order to Omega. With out her, it would be worse. Better that the over egotisical,ruthless Illusive Man.

[Asheer_Khan]

Shandepared wrote...

Yeah, team up with the murderous "Pirate Queen" of the most crime-ridden hellhole in the galaxy.

Way to take the moral highroad.

Like Jolee Bindo says once...

"Sometimes even Jedi Master must toss aside his moral codex to serve greater Justice".

[Omicrone]

Have you noticed how in the books there's very little of the high-tech combat we're witnessing in the games? No different ammo types, no stealth cloaks, no heavy weapons... Not even a flamethrower lol. Kai Leng is my new favourite character. He seems to know his stuff. Spectre-level combatant.

[tonnactus]

Omicrone wrote...

Have you noticed how in the books there's very little of the high-tech combat we're witnessing in the games? No different ammo types, no stealth cloaks, no heavy weapons...

Saren used at least different types of grenades.Skarr used a heavy weapon to destroy an alliance ship.

Modifié par tonnactus, 30 juillet 2010 - 09:22 .

[Pacifien]

Shandepared wrote...
Yeah, two guys could have totally taken on three frigates full of turian soldiers.

One of them probably thought he could have.

[Pacifien]

Shandepared wrote...
Kai Leng is confident but not arrogant.

Oh he's arrogant all right.

[TMA LIVE]

dreman9999 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Honestly I never noticed any chemistry between the two. Then again it's been a long time since I read Revelation. I was also surprised to see Kahlee suddenly giving a **** about Grayson. In Ascension she was pretty eager to kill him. I actually disliked her for it since her grudge against him seemed rather selfish to me with her never stopping to consider how Grayson's death might affect Gillian.

The Grayson/Kahleen relationship was build up do to 3 years worth of bi-weekly calls by Grayson cheaking on her.
Grayson was not a bad guy, he was misguided. He even gave up seeing his daughter again to save her.
Also, the kiss between Kahleen and Anderson was on queue for 20 YEARS!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, but I hated that. How can you feel close to someone who's only sending "checkup" messages once or twice a month? It's not like they could have talked, since Grayson can't talk about anything he's doing, or talk more then 5 minutes. Also:

1) Why is Paul risking his life and location, and Kahlee's life, by
sending messages to someone he only met 3 times in his life? He claims
it's because being close to Kahlee is like being close to his daughter,
but I don't buy it.

2) How come Cerberus isn't tracking Kahlee's
messages to find Grayson? Because Aria was able to find out Grayson was
sending messages to Kahlee by scanning his terminal, and that terminal
was FUBAR.

3) Why isn't Cerberus spying on Kahlee in case she got in contact with him? I know he told Grayson he'd leave her alone, but that doesn't mean he can't read her messages.

4) Why does Kahlee want him to come to the school when he's on the run from dangerous men?


Also can someone answer these questions for me:

1) What were the Reapers trying to learn at Grissom Academy?

2) How come there were no security cameras inside or outside Grayson apartment to tell Aria what happened? Or to confirm Cerberus already took him?

[Omicrone]

tonnactus wrote...

Omicrone wrote...

Have you noticed how in the books there's very little of the high-tech combat we're witnessing in the games? No different ammo types, no stealth cloaks, no heavy weapons...

Saren used at least different types of grenades.Skarr used a heavy weapon to destroy an alliance ship.

Yeah, I know that, by "books" I meant the latest one - Retribution. No fancy fights at all. Karpyshin didn't even mention the heatsinks that were "forced" by weapon manufacturers to increase weapon performance.

[Legion 2.5]

TMA LIVE wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Honestly I never noticed any chemistry between the two. Then again it's been a long time since I read Revelation. I was also surprised to see Kahlee suddenly giving a **** about Grayson. In Ascension she was pretty eager to kill him. I actually disliked her for it since her grudge against him seemed rather selfish to me with her never stopping to consider how Grayson's death might affect Gillian.

The Grayson/Kahleen relationship was build up do to 3 years worth of bi-weekly calls by Grayson cheaking on her.
Grayson was not a bad guy, he was misguided. He even gave up seeing his daughter again to save her.
Also, the kiss between Kahleen and Anderson was on queue for 20 YEARS!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, but I hated that. How can you feel close to someone who's only sending "checkup" messages once or twice a month? It's not like they could have talked, since Grayson can't talk about anything he's doing, or talk more then 5 minutes. Also:

1) Why is Paul risking his life and location, and Kahlee's life, by
sending messages to someone he only met 3 times in his life? He claims
it's because being close to Kahlee is like being close to his daughter,
but I don't buy it.

2) How come Cerberus isn't tracking Kahlee's
messages to find Grayson? Because Aria was able to find out Grayson was
sending messages to Kahlee by scanning his terminal, and that terminal
was FUBAR.

3) Why isn't Cerberus spying on Kahlee in case she got in contact with him? I know he told Grayson he'd leave her alone, but that doesn't mean he can't read her messages.

4) Why does Kahlee want him to come to the school when he's on the run from dangerous men?


Also can someone answer these questions for me:

1) What were the Reapers trying to learn at Grissom Academy?

2) How come there were no security cameras inside or outside Grayson apartment to tell Aria what happened? Or to confirm Cerberus already took him?

Plot hole anyone?

[Asheer_Khan]

Shandepared wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

Like Jolee Bindo says once...

"Sometimes even Jedi Master must toss aside his moral codex to serve greater Justice".

So then why aren't you a supporter of Cerberus and the Illusive Man?

Honestly, Khan, that was a stupid quote to throw out.

I will  NEVER EVER support tim because i live in a coutry which suffer twice because of acting of two biggest fo far psychos in human history and not far from my living place Aushwitz still serve as reminder where such road leads...

Modifié par Asheer_Khan, 30 juillet 2010 - 09:50 .

[dreman9999]

TMA LIVE wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Honestly I never noticed any chemistry between the two. Then again it's been a long time since I read Revelation. I was also surprised to see Kahlee suddenly giving a **** about Grayson. In Ascension she was pretty eager to kill him. I actually disliked her for it since her grudge against him seemed rather selfish to me with her never stopping to consider how Grayson's death might affect Gillian.

The Grayson/Kahleen relationship was build up do to 3 years worth of bi-weekly calls by Grayson cheaking on her.
Grayson was not a bad guy, he was misguided. He even gave up seeing his daughter again to save her.
Also, the kiss between Kahleen and Anderson was on queue for 20 YEARS!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, but I hated that. How can you feel close to someone who's only sending "checkup" messages once or twice a month? It's not like they could have talked, since Grayson can't talk about anything he's doing, or talk more then 5 minutes. Also:

1) Why is Paul risking his life and location, and Kahlee's life, by
sending messages to someone he only met 3 times in his life? He claims
it's because being close to Kahlee is like being close to his daughter,
but I don't buy it.

2) How come Cerberus isn't tracking Kahlee's
messages to find Grayson? Because Aria was able to find out Grayson was
sending messages to Kahlee by scanning his terminal, and that terminal
was FUBAR.

3) Why isn't Cerberus spying on Kahlee in case she got in contact with him? I know he told Grayson he'd leave her alone, but that doesn't mean he can't read her messages.

4) Why does Kahlee want him to come to the school when he's on the run from dangerous men?


Also can someone answer these questions for me:

1) What were the Reapers trying to learn at Grissom Academy?

2) How come there were no security cameras inside or outside Grayson apartment to tell Aria what happened? Or to confirm Cerberus already took him?

How can you feel close to someone who's only sending "checkup" messages once or twice a month?
.....We do it all the time with net dating and Face book.
1. The Illusive man found him with out it and he can hide the messages. Also, guilt causes him to do the check ups and the check keeps him off red sand.
2.She was using the beginning source of the messages. 
3.Cerberus can't due to the mess up with their last one. The Alliance double down on security on the Ascension project.
4.I agree with this...She was being too nice and that get her into too much trouble. It's her nature.
PART 2
1. In Mass effect 2, the reapers want as much info on human genetic as possible. Why would they not want info on the latest on Human biotics?

2........I don't know. But the apartment were not under Aria's direct control. They don't have camera's every where on the citadel ether.

Modifié par dreman9999, 30 juillet 2010 - 09:54 .