.....Shandepared wrote...
makenzieshepard wrote...
They were just using that as an insult. It's quite common in various Mass Effect material since the asari have a very englightened view of sexuality that frightens other species.
Oh yeah, promiscuous sex is real "enlightened".
Threating the Illusive man to not attack someone = love?TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
By one Guy who called all Asari ****s who then later kills her. Grayson never paid for sex. And was thinking about his daughter when he tured here down.He was depressed that he could not see her again. He thought about his daughter may time in the book. He call Kahlee out of guilt because he doesn't want her life ruin by the Illusive man.TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
So.......Girlfriends are hookers.TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
What hooker? He had sex with Liselle so he wouldn't take the redsand.
They had lots of sex before then, and sometimes he turns her down because he talked to Kahlee, his mystery woman.
She is called a hooker by other people in the book. They did have a relationship, and it wasn't a paid one if that's what you mean. I'm just saying he feels guilty when he's with another girl, when he was feelings for someone else.
No he was thinking about Kahlee, because they've been talking for 3 years, and he cared about her since the end of book 2. And that one guy wasn't the only guy. And Aria had her sleep with him as a spy.
makenzieshepard wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
So.......Girlfriends are hookers.
She is called a hooker by other people in the book. They did have a relationship, and it wasn't a paid one if that's what you mean. I'm just saying he feels guilty when he's with another girl, when he was feelings for someone else.
They were just using that as an insult. It's quite common in various Mass Effect material since the asari have a very englightened view of sexuality that frightens other species. Not the mention a fair bit of woman hating. To be fair younger asari often (but not always) exchange sex for some sort of profit in their younger years. Hooking has several negative connotations that don't really fit a lot of these but it probably does in a few cases. However it's quite clear that hooking or any other kid of sex for money is not Liselles job as she currently works for Aria/Grayson is a mercenary capacity, so calling her a hooker is factually wrong.
dreman9999 wrote...
Threating the Illusive man to not attack someone = love?TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
By one Guy who called all Asari ****s who then later kills her. Grayson never paid for sex. And was thinking about his daughter when he tured here down.He was depressed that he could not see her again. He thought about his daughter may time in the book. He call Kahlee out of guilt because he doesn't want her life ruin by the Illusive man.TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
So.......Girlfriends are hookers.TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
What hooker? He had sex with Liselle so he wouldn't take the redsand.
They had lots of sex before then, and sometimes he turns her down because he talked to Kahlee, his mystery woman.
She is called a hooker by other people in the book. They did have a relationship, and it wasn't a paid one if that's what you mean. I'm just saying he feels guilty when he's with another girl, when he was feelings for someone else.
No he was thinking about Kahlee, because they've been talking for 3 years, and he cared about her since the end of book 2. And that one guy wasn't the only guy. And Aria had her sleep with him as a spy.
And woman sleeping with men make them hookers?
Only Kai Leng was calling anyone a ****.TMA LIVE wrote...
makenzieshepard wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
So.......Girlfriends are hookers.
She is called a hooker by other people in the book. They did have a relationship, and it wasn't a paid one if that's what you mean. I'm just saying he feels guilty when he's with another girl, when he was feelings for someone else.
They were just using that as an insult. It's quite common in various Mass Effect material since the asari have a very englightened view of sexuality that frightens other species. Not the mention a fair bit of woman hating. To be fair younger asari often (but not always) exchange sex for some sort of profit in their younger years. Hooking has several negative connotations that don't really fit a lot of these but it probably does in a few cases. However it's quite clear that hooking or any other kid of sex for money is not Liselles job as she currently works for Aria/Grayson is a mercenary capacity, so calling her a hooker is factually wrong.
I think Aria's own men called her that. And Aria had her have sex with Grayson as a spy.
However, Liselle cares for Grayson, and wasn't doing it for Aria or money. She wasn't paid. She really likes him. I get that.
dreman9999 wrote...
Only Kai Leng was calling anyone a ****.TMA LIVE wrote...
makenzieshepard wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
So.......Girlfriends are hookers.
She is called a hooker by other people in the book. They did have a relationship, and it wasn't a paid one if that's what you mean. I'm just saying he feels guilty when he's with another girl, when he was feelings for someone else.
They were just using that as an insult. It's quite common in various Mass Effect material since the asari have a very englightened view of sexuality that frightens other species. Not the mention a fair bit of woman hating. To be fair younger asari often (but not always) exchange sex for some sort of profit in their younger years. Hooking has several negative connotations that don't really fit a lot of these but it probably does in a few cases. However it's quite clear that hooking or any other kid of sex for money is not Liselles job as she currently works for Aria/Grayson is a mercenary capacity, so calling her a hooker is factually wrong.
I think Aria's own men called her that. And Aria had her have sex with Grayson as a spy.
However, Liselle cares for Grayson, and wasn't doing it for Aria or money. She wasn't paid. She really likes him. I get that.
Modifié par makenzieshepard, 30 juillet 2010 - 11:58 .
TMA LIVE wrote...
makenzieshepard wrote...
They were just using that as an insult. It's quite common in various Mass Effect material since the asari have a very englightened view of sexuality that frightens other species. Not the mention a fair bit of woman hating. To be fair younger asari often (but not always) exchange sex for some sort of profit in their younger years. Hooking has several negative connotations that don't really fit a lot of these but it probably does in a few cases. However it's quite clear that hooking or any other kid of sex for money is not Liselles job as she currently works for Aria/Grayson is a mercenary capacity, so calling her a hooker is factually wrong.
I think Aria's own men called her that. And Aria had her have sex with Grayson as a spy.
However, Liselle cares for Grayson, and wasn't doing it for Aria or money. She wasn't paid. She really likes him. I get that.
Just reread the first few chapter before Liselle death. It's just Kai Leng. No one else.TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Only Kai Leng was calling anyone a ****.TMA LIVE wrote...
makenzieshepard wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
So.......Girlfriends are hookers.
She is called a hooker by other people in the book. They did have a relationship, and it wasn't a paid one if that's what you mean. I'm just saying he feels guilty when he's with another girl, when he was feelings for someone else.
They were just using that as an insult. It's quite common in various Mass Effect material since the asari have a very englightened view of sexuality that frightens other species. Not the mention a fair bit of woman hating. To be fair younger asari often (but not always) exchange sex for some sort of profit in their younger years. Hooking has several negative connotations that don't really fit a lot of these but it probably does in a few cases. However it's quite clear that hooking or any other kid of sex for money is not Liselles job as she currently works for Aria/Grayson is a mercenary capacity, so calling her a hooker is factually wrong.
I think Aria's own men called her that. And Aria had her have sex with Grayson as a spy.
However, Liselle cares for Grayson, and wasn't doing it for Aria or money. She wasn't paid. She really likes him. I get that.
No, I think she's called that by others as well, like that batarian guy.
Modifié par dreman9999, 30 juillet 2010 - 11:58 .
makenzieshepard wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
makenzieshepard wrote...
They were just using that as an insult. It's quite common in various Mass Effect material since the asari have a very englightened view of sexuality that frightens other species. Not the mention a fair bit of woman hating. To be fair younger asari often (but not always) exchange sex for some sort of profit in their younger years. Hooking has several negative connotations that don't really fit a lot of these but it probably does in a few cases. However it's quite clear that hooking or any other kid of sex for money is not Liselles job as she currently works for Aria/Grayson is a mercenary capacity, so calling her a hooker is factually wrong.
I think Aria's own men called her that. And Aria had her have sex with Grayson as a spy.
However, Liselle cares for Grayson, and wasn't doing it for Aria or money. She wasn't paid. She really likes him. I get that.
I'm pretty sure Aria's own people called her a hooker, **** etc as well, I'm not arguing that. My point was from what we know she is not a hooker as she does not exchange sex for money on a professional basis. Even sleeping with Grayson the first time is primarily done as a security matter and it apparently ends up leading to her caring for him so...even less of a hooker situation. The only thing that seems confirmed is that she isn't only sleeping with Grayson, which also does not make her a hooker. I won't go into the morality of it as that discussion will lead us nowhere good.
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 31 juillet 2010 - 12:01 .
Or you could just not judge her by an ancient, foreign standard that shouldn't even apply to her species?TMA LIVE wrote...
makenzieshepard wrote...
I'm pretty sure Aria's own people called her a hooker, **** etc as well, I'm not arguing that. My point was from what we know she is not a hooker as she does not exchange sex for money on a professional basis. Even sleeping with Grayson the first time is primarily done as a security matter and it apparently ends up leading to her caring for him
so...even less of a hooker situation. The only thing that seems confirmed is that she isn't only sleeping with Grayson, which also does not make her a hooker. I won't go into the morality of it as that discussion will lead us nowhere good.
Ok, then maybe wrong choice of words. I could use the S word, but that seems too mean, since I like her.
Modifié par makenzieshepard, 31 juillet 2010 - 12:04 .
In front of Aria.makenzieshepard wrote...
I wish there was a look inside this book on Amazon so we could settle this for at the moment I'm to lazy to read it to confirm either way. For what it's worth I recall other people calling her several negative names, but I could easily be wrong.
Pinkflamingo22 wrote...
Now is this because Anderson stepped down fro the council, or was fired? Will this be addressed in ME3 or somewhere else?
PrinceLionheart wrote...
Pinkflamingo22 wrote...
Now is this because Anderson stepped down fro the council, or was fired? Will this be addressed in ME3 or somewhere else?
Anderson describes talking to the Council as beating his head against the wall. I'm going to guess that he quit.
Pacifien wrote...
Oh he's arrogant all right.Shandepared wrote...
Kai Leng is confident but not arrogant.
I'll do the same but he'll be missing his knee capps.NICKjnp wrote...
Pacifien wrote...
Oh he's arrogant all right.Shandepared wrote...
Kai Leng is confident but not arrogant.
I'm going to enjoy capturing him... and thowing him at Aria's feet. Then I'll say, "This is the man who killed your daughter.... enjoy."
NICKjnp wrote...
Pacifien wrote...
Oh he's arrogant all right.Shandepared wrote...
Kai Leng is confident but not arrogant.
I'm going to enjoy capturing him... and thowing him at Aria's feet. Then I'll say, "This is the man who killed your daughter.... enjoy."
Guest_Shandepared_*
AriesXX7 wrote...
I want to see them both crushed under my boot
) What do you guys think?
squee913 wrote...
I am going through the book now and I had some thoughts:
Most people seem to think the authur messed up with the Anderson/Udina thing, but I disagree. What if it was done on purpose? Many people have suggested Anderon quit or was removed. I think this is very likely. They could not have said anything about it in the book because how do you mention he quit without supporting that Shep choose him? You can't say he used to be on the coucil, and you can't say he had never been on the council. The only thing they could say was that he is not on the council right now.... which they did.
Secondly, So far Reaper-Grayson seems like a perfict killing machine. The only thing I kept thinking to myself is "I would like to see if Shep could take him one on one." I know he dies (but I do not know how) but I think it would have been a good fight. You don't see Shep do much hand to hand, but they give you hints that Shep is realy good. (i.e. taking out two turians in afterlife like they were kittins, and taking out a varren with a kick to the face... god I love that one!
not going to happen. We still have Kai Leng.
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