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[dreman9999]

Shandepared wrote...

AriesXX7 wrote...

I want to see them both crushed under my boot

Then I guess you should have crushed them when you had the chance.

....Did you even play the game?

[squee913]

dreman9999 wrote...

squee913 wrote...

I am going through the book now and I had some thoughts:
 
Most people seem to think the authur messed up with the Anderson/Udina thing, but I disagree. What if it was done on purpose? Many people have suggested Anderon quit or was removed. I think this is very likely. They could not have said anything about it in the book because how do you mention he quit without supporting that Shep choose him? You can't say he used to be on the coucil, and you can't say he had never been on the council. The only thing they could say was that he is not on the council right now.... which they did.
 
Secondly, So far Reaper-Grayson seems like a perfict killing machine. The only thing I kept thinking to myself is "I would like to see if Shep could take him one on one." I know he dies (but I do not know how) but I think it would have been a good fight. You don't see Shep do much hand to hand, but they give you hints that Shep is realy good. (i.e. taking out two turians in afterlife like they were kittins, and taking out a varren with a kick to the face... god I love that one! ) What do you guys think?

I do wish I came fight Grayson in ME3. But well.....not going to happen. We still have Kai Leng.
As the thing with Anderson, It does not matter. Just flip Amaral to Counciler and back, in the end he's no longer it by the end of the book

I know Shep vs. Grayson could never happen  But I am speaking hypothetically. If it did, could Shep take him? If shep had his/her guns I don't think there would be much doubt that shep would school him, but hand to hand? What do you think?

[PWENER]

Shandepared wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...


....Did you even play the game?

Are you an idiot or what?

If you wanted to kill Vido or Balak then you should have done it instead of allowing them to escape.

Shame on you.

I didn't kill them, but the producers said that we would get to kill Balak, no word on Vido though. So shame on you for questioning someone elses game.

[FourSixEight]

Inverness Moon wrote...

Meh, the fact that BioWare portrays everything Cerberus (does other than what you need to be able to play ME2) as a failure really annoys me.

Cerberus is a failure. The only thing they ever did that actually helped the galaxy was bringing Shepard back to life, but people like to ignore this because they get a nice, lovely little excuse to act borderline sociopathic, called 'It's Always For The Greater Good.'

Modifié par FourSixEight, 31 juillet 2010 - 05:07 .

[dreman9999]

FourSixEight wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...

Meh, the fact that BioWare portrays everything Cerberus (does other than what you need to be able to play ME2) as a failure really annoys me.

Cerberus is a failure. The only thing they ever did that actually helped the galaxy was bringing Shepard back to life, but people like to ignore this because they get a nice, lovely little excuse to act borderline sociopathic, called 'It's Always For The Greater Good.'

....And Make Shepard's ship.
And make EDI.
And organized Shepard's team.
And Shepard'spowers.
Ok, Shepard make everything great.

[Legion 2.5]

I agree with you there FourSixEight. Isn't the quote "for the greater good" overused too much?

[Maugrim]

dreman9999 wrote...
....And Make Shepard's ship.

From stolen designs.  Setting up a desk from IKEA and adding bells to it is no great accomplishment.  Also Shepard has to upgrade every major system to survive the suicide mission and fix a 1st year engineer basic design oversight when it comes to the T6-FBA power couplings an error that increases the maintenance time by 700%!

And make EDI.

Who is mildly useful and convenient. Mostly during the collector ambush but since that was a Cerberus trap they get no points for it. It's only after Joker removes the restraints that Cerberus put on EDI that she truly comes into her own.

And organized Shepard's team.

So they saved Shepard 5 minutes on the Google extranet big whoop. Shepard still recruited them and gained their loyalty, even taking loyalty from Cerberus in paragon playthroughs. It's not like Shepard couldn't have recruited a bad ass team on his/her own. Heck Shep could've had Ash/Kaidan, Liara and assistance from Udina/Anderson if it wasn't for Cerberus past actions and bad reputations.

Note I'm mostly taking the p*ss here but there is some kernel of truth in each bit of mockery

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 31 juillet 2010 - 05:59 .

[RiouHotaru]

Also, anyone who thinks TIM is some kind of awesome during the end of Retribution needs to step back and consider this: The only reason Grayson is even involved is because he dissed TIM something fierce and TIM wanted payback. They could've stuffed ANYONE with Reaper tech, but noooooooooo TIM had to pick the one guy who flipped him off. Real proud of you there TIM.

[tonnactus]

Shandepared wrote...


So Aria was trying to save the galaxy too, huh?

No. But first: In a place without law no one is a "crime boss".
And Aria seems to be one of the best leaders omega had.I doubt that the patriarch would care about civilian casualties.

To compare her with "tim": I doubt he cared when he led attack the flotilla...

Modifié par tonnactus, 31 juillet 2010 - 10:39 .

[Barquiel]

tonnactus wrote...

And Aria seems to be one of the best leaders omega had.I doubt that the patriarch would care about civilian casualties.

this

I think that's the reason why Garrus has never tried to kill Aria on Omega. I hope we can team up with her to take Cerberus down...in ME3.

[tonnactus]

Barquiel wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

And Aria seems to be one of the best leaders omega had.I doubt that the patriarch would care about civilian casualties.

this

I think that's the reason why Garrus has never tried to kill Aria on Omega. I hope we can team up with her to take Cerberus down...in ME3.

Im a bit angry at the turians. I wanted to blast tims station with him into doom.

Modifié par tonnactus, 31 juillet 2010 - 10:41 .

[Asheer_Khan]

Actually i wouldn't mind if Anderson would step down from Councilor and assign this douchebag traitor at his place if in ME 3 Council will still dismiss any reapers proof and help my Shep, Liara, Ash, Aria (maybe even Shiala would join us and i am sure Samara would help us as well (by the way i think this would be Shand's worst nightmare... bunch of Asari hunting his favorite characters:P)), Miranda and of course Khalee to track down and close once for all cerberus activity.

Of course Kai belongs ONLY to Aria and she can do with him whatever she want:whistle:... but when comes to TiM... Shepard will play role of Judge Dreed in this case.

Of course i known that this is more fanfiction based assumptions that actual possible in game events so following this route i can say that once TiM will be dealt for it will come time for preparing welcoming "party" :wizard:for Harby and co...

[ThisIsMadness91]

NICKjnp wrote...

For playthrough here on out... the crew gets liquified. I'm tottaly goint to assist Aria in getting revenge against Cerberus for her daughter. Also... I thought it made Aria much more dangerous in the book. And more like Aleena when she said try to avoid civilian casualties when they were chasing down Grayson.

Interesting. I haven't read this yet (I know, it's crazy that I'm in this topic, but I have no idea when I'll be able to get my hands on a copy, and I can't wait to see what happens), so I'm surprised to see this after seeing her kill innocent human prisoners in the Incursion short comic. Then again, Mac Walters wrote that...

[Sniper11709]

makenzieshepard wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
....And Make Shepard's ship.

From stolen designs.  Setting up a desk from IKEA and adding bells to it is no great accomplishment.  Also Shepard has to upgrade every major system to survive the suicide mission and fix a 1st year engineer basic design oversight when it comes to the T6-FBA power couplings an error that increases the maintenance time by 700%!

And make EDI.

Who is mildly useful and convenient. Mostly during the collector ambush but since that was a Cerberus trap they get no points for it. It's only after Joker removes the restraints that Cerberus put on EDI that she truly comes into her own.

And organized Shepard's team.

So they saved Shepard 5 minutes on the Google extranet big whoop. Shepard still recruited them and gained their loyalty, even taking loyalty from Cerberus in paragon playthroughs. It's not like Shepard couldn't have recruited a bad ass team on his/her own. Heck Shep could've had Ash/Kaidan, Liara and assistance from Udina/Anderson if it wasn't for Cerberus past actions and bad reputations.

Note I'm mostly taking the p*ss here but there is some kernel of truth in each bit of mockery

Stolen Designs? You mean the designs that Cerberus manipulated the Allaince into making with one of the races that is not exactly the best friends of humanity, the designs they took and then upgraded to a larger design. The couplings? You think it's a basic mistake to not install the parts that are no longer made and thus have to be aquired second hand, this is just me but if i just built a state of the art warship i would prefer it to have parts that i can replace if needed, hell your taking the time saving estimate from the engineer who could possibly be exagerrating just a little.

EDI, you know the AI that hasn't gone insane and tried to murder everyone after being released from the measures meant to make sure she couldn't, just the fact she hasn't killed everyone is a success IMHO.

[Asheer_Khan]

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

For playthrough here on out... the crew gets liquified. I'm tottaly goint to assist Aria in getting revenge against Cerberus for her daughter. Also... I thought it made Aria much more dangerous in the book. And more like Aleena when she said try to avoid civilian casualties when they were chasing down Grayson.

Interesting. I haven't read this yet (I know, it's crazy that I'm in this topic, but I have no idea when I'll be able to get my hands on a copy, and I can't wait to see what happens), so I'm surprised to see this after seeing her kill innocent human prisoners in the Incursion short comic. Then again, Mac Walters wrote that...

She didn't kill them but they were caught in crossfire between Aria's henchies, "Bullie" Suns and Collectors... so thier chances of surviving this were little more than 0... considering presence of that freaking Praetorian there.

[Asheer_Khan]

Sniper11709 wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
....And Make Shepard's ship.

From stolen designs.  Setting up a desk from IKEA and adding bells to it is no great accomplishment.  Also Shepard has to upgrade every major system to survive the suicide mission and fix a 1st year engineer basic design oversight when it comes to the T6-FBA power couplings an error that increases the maintenance time by 700%!

And make EDI.

Who is mildly useful and convenient. Mostly during the collector ambush but since that was a Cerberus trap they get no points for it. It's only after Joker removes the restraints that Cerberus put on EDI that she truly comes into her own.

And organized Shepard's team.

So they saved Shepard 5 minutes on the Google extranet big whoop. Shepard still recruited them and gained their loyalty, even taking loyalty from Cerberus in paragon playthroughs. It's not like Shepard couldn't have recruited a bad ass team on his/her own. Heck Shep could've had Ash/Kaidan, Liara and assistance from Udina/Anderson if it wasn't for Cerberus past actions and bad reputations.

Note I'm mostly taking the p*ss here but there is some kernel of truth in each bit of mockery

Stolen Designs? You mean the designs that Cerberus manipulated the Allaince into making with one of the races that is not exactly the best friends of humanity, the designs they took and then upgraded to a larger design. The couplings? You think it's a basic mistake to not install the parts that are no longer made and thus have to be aquired second hand, this is just me but if i just built a state of the art warship i would prefer it to have parts that i can replace if needed, hell your taking the time saving estimate from the engineer who could possibly be exagerrating just a little.

^Oh come on.... don't tell me that with such huge budget cerberus have to build Normandy 2 they wew unable to spare around 1k credits to purchase this element during monitoring how SB agent took off from Omega with Shepard's body on board of his ship...

EDI, you know the AI that hasn't gone insane and tried to murder everyone after being released from the measures meant to make sure she couldn't, just the fact she hasn't killed everyone is a success IMHO.

^Patience... for everything is proper time and no after all i trust her in about 80% but her real loyaty test will be when Normandy will face Reapers fleet.

Repys in bold.

Modifié par Asheer_Khan, 31 juillet 2010 - 12:57 .

[ThisIsMadness91]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

For playthrough here on out... the crew gets liquified. I'm tottaly goint to assist Aria in getting revenge against Cerberus for her daughter. Also... I thought it made Aria much more dangerous in the book. And more like Aleena when she said try to avoid civilian casualties when they were chasing down Grayson.

Interesting. I haven't read this yet (I know, it's crazy that I'm in this topic, but I have no idea when I'll be able to get my hands on a copy, and I can't wait to see what happens), so I'm surprised to see this after seeing her kill innocent human prisoners in the Incursion short comic. Then again, Mac Walters wrote that...

She didn't kill them but they were caught in crossfire between Aria's henchies, "Bullie" Suns and Collectors... so thier chances of surviving this were little more than 0... considering presence of that freaking Praetorian there.

Maybe I misinterpreted what was going on, then. But when she said "nobody leaves alive", and when she didn't seem to care much when the humans are revealed to be dead, it leads me to believe that this version of Aria isn't as interested in avoiding civilian casualties as the one that appears in Retribution, as if she was only interested in making sure nobody found out the Collectors were ever on Omega.

Modifié par ThisIsMadness91, 31 juillet 2010 - 01:21 .

[Asheer_Khan]

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

For playthrough here on out... the crew gets liquified. I'm tottaly goint to assist Aria in getting revenge against Cerberus for her daughter. Also... I thought it made Aria much more dangerous in the book. And more like Aleena when she said try to avoid civilian casualties when they were chasing down Grayson.

Interesting. I haven't read this yet (I know, it's crazy that I'm in this topic, but I have no idea when I'll be able to get my hands on a copy, and I can't wait to see what happens), so I'm surprised to see this after seeing her kill innocent human prisoners in the Incursion short comic. Then again, Mac Walters wrote that...

She didn't kill them but they were caught in crossfire between Aria's henchies, "Bullie" Suns and Collectors... so thier chances of surviving this were little more than 0... considering presence of that freaking Praetorian there.

Maybe I misinterpreted what was going on, then. But when she said "nobody leaves alive", and when she didn't seem to care much when the humans are revealed to be dead, it leads me to believe that this version of Aria isn't as interested in avoiding civilian casualties as the one that appears in Retribution, as if she was only interested in making sure nobody found out the Collectors were ever on Omega.

She mention bullie Suns and Collectors because she known that prisoners didn't have single chance to survive when Praetorian was in that chamber.

Possibly he killed them right when battle started... and this part rater questioning last part of your post ...

uk.media.comics.ign.com/media/056/056597/img_7844417.html

Take good look at lower right picture of her face AND what she say...

EDIT:
Here is full comic :
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/2935865/1

Modifié par Asheer_Khan, 31 juillet 2010 - 01:35 .

[Sniper11709]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

Sniper11709 wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
....And Make Shepard's ship.

From stolen designs.  Setting up a desk from IKEA and adding bells to it is no great accomplishment.  Also Shepard has to upgrade every major system to survive the suicide mission and fix a 1st year engineer basic design oversight when it comes to the T6-FBA power couplings an error that increases the maintenance time by 700%!

And make EDI.

Who is mildly useful and convenient. Mostly during the collector ambush but since that was a Cerberus trap they get no points for it. It's only after Joker removes the restraints that Cerberus put on EDI that she truly comes into her own.

And organized Shepard's team.

So they saved Shepard 5 minutes on the Google extranet big whoop. Shepard still recruited them and gained their loyalty, even taking loyalty from Cerberus in paragon playthroughs. It's not like Shepard couldn't have recruited a bad ass team on his/her own. Heck Shep could've had Ash/Kaidan, Liara and assistance from Udina/Anderson if it wasn't for Cerberus past actions and bad reputations.

Note I'm mostly taking the p*ss here but there is some kernel of truth in each bit of mockery

Stolen Designs? You mean the designs that Cerberus manipulated the Allaince into making with one of the races that is not exactly the best friends of humanity, the designs they took and then upgraded to a larger design. The couplings? You think it's a basic mistake to not install the parts that are no longer made and thus have to be aquired second hand, this is just me but if i just built a state of the art warship i would prefer it to have parts that i can replace if needed, hell your taking the time saving estimate from the engineer who could possibly be exagerrating just a little.

^Oh come on.... don't tell me that with such huge budget cerberus have to build Normandy 2 they wew unable to spare around 1k credits to purchase this element during monitoring how SB agent took off from Omega with Shepard's body on board of his ship...

EDI, you know the AI that hasn't gone insane and tried to murder everyone after being released from the measures meant to make sure she couldn't, just the fact she hasn't killed everyone is a success IMHO.

^Patience... for everything is proper time and no after all i trust her in about 80% but her real loyaty test will be when Normandy will face Reapers fleet.

Repys in bold.

It's not about the money, it's about buying second hand parts that could stop working who knows when and you probably wouldn't be able to get spares due them no longed being manufactured. Think about what would happen if they crapped out while inbetween star systems, your nice little ship is now sitting in the middle of the galactic void (aka middle of nowhere) with no intergalactic tow service anywhere in sight.

Joker is a prophet, he just dosen't know it yet.

[ThisIsMadness91]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

Possibly he killed them right when battle started... and this part rater questioning last part of your post ...

uk.media.comics.ign.com/media/056/056597/img_7844417.html

Take good look at lower right picture of her face AND what she say...

It is possible the Praetorian killed them, but it still looks to me as if Aria may have killed at least some of them with her biotic blast when she entered the fight.

As for the last panel on that page, sorry, but I'm not sure what it is I'm supposed to be seeing.

[Asheer_Khan]

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

Possibly he killed them right when battle started... and this part rater questioning last part of your post ...

uk.media.comics.ign.com/media/056/056597/img_7844417.html

Take good look at lower right picture of her face AND what she say...

It is possible the Praetorian killed them, but it still looks to me as if Aria may have killed at least some of them with her biotic blast when she entered the fight.

As for the last panel on that page, sorry, but I'm not sure what it is I'm supposed to be seeing.

Her face didn't look like face someone who just cold blood killed innocent people AND she ordered her second to find out everything why Collectors are so interesting in humans NOT to cover up what was happned.

Last part of this comic show her hoding datapad with detailed count of colonists on major human colonies (including Omega) and Earth what could indicated that Collectord did plans attack Earth.

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

I thought the book was great, altough I would have liked more about Anderson since becoming councilor/adviser. Lots of gun fighting and action, even TIM killed someone. ANd Anderson and Kahlee are finally together!!!



1. The book stated Anderson had quite, so Udina would then be councilor. So stop complaining.

2. between ME2 and the book their are far to many references to asari altering our perception to look hot for this not to become something big. (like the collectors in ascension)

3. I vote we get to kill Kai Leng in ME3, and Kahlee is an NPC.

4. Bring back Gillian, Hendel, and Lemm in ME3

5. Based on this book I'm definitely putting a bullet in Aria in ME3.