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[Bryy_Miller]

tjm335 wrote...

We will not get a "true sequel,"

Semantics.

We will be thrust into a premade, albeit customizeable, character (Hawke).

If the character is customizable, then what is the issue? Every character in existence is pre-made. Even in DA:O/

No ties to "god child" or Morrigan

Nothing to confirm or deny that.

And it seems that the combat will be watered down. More hack and slash like Assassin's Creed and Prince of Persia. I've come to love many of your games, but this game quite frankly seems disapointing.

So, your problem is that you've jumped to conclusions? Why does this warrant a personal thread to BioWare?

[Behindyounow]

tjm335 wrote...

No ties to "god child" or Morrigan. 

Also, not everyone chose that ending.

[ArjunaAle]

I like the fact my Warden is not the main character in the next game. I mean, geez, the chick just saved the world and seen some pretty damn horrible things along the way. She's retired. Living it up on a beach somewhere. Drinkin' an alcoholic coconut concoction with a little umbrella in it, watching Alistair doin' a poor attempt at an erotic dance in nothing but a hula skirt. I just broke so much of the Lore.

[Majin Paul]

The Warden finished their job so apart from the whole Morrigan thing which some people chose, there is no reason for the warden to be used.

And how is the battle system anything like Assassin's Creed?

[adi4444]

Saibh wrote...

adi4444 wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

So in other words:
Hey BioWare, your last game was AMAZING. Wow! You guys are REALLY GOOD AT MAKING GAMES! But the next game isn't about what I want it to be about, so therefore it will suck! In spite of your proven track record! And despite the fact that I know almost nothing about it! How dare you?!

its not what he ment!!!!! he ment that insted of rpg sequel to dao
we will get action game

while no doubt that it will be great game cuse its still bioware

what matter to us is  that it will not be sequel to dao and not a sucesor to bg...and not an rpg...

insted it will be a great hack& slach game thats what worries us!! we dont want another action game...

But. You. Don't. Know. That.

You are making wild speculation on the story matter based on tweaked combat and a dialogue wheel. Seriously now.


BioWare's as pretty damn flawless as any game company can be, when it comes to the games they produce. I'd have faith, if I were you. "Story based gaming" is what they call themselves, right? Why would they change that now? 

but from what we know untill now it will not be an rpg...

dialoug like in ME...
this game told like a story in the past it will be even non linear than dao was..
combat more action ,,ninja movs? you can kill 20 mobs with one strike? isent that sound like diablo????
not to mention the graphics that is realy  looks like some kind of cartoon....


all this things sound like a hack& slach to me...i didnt sayd that it wont be good game..it will...
but from what we know untill know...it will not be an rpg..jjust action game with some rpg elemnts in it..

and i dont need this kind of game ill prefer diablo 3..or assainss kreed 2..

i dont care about all the changes to the game they can do waht ever they want..but what i care is that it will not be some action hack & slach and that it will still be rpg !!! thats what matter to me!!cuse ther are tons of action games in the market i dont need another one(even that it will be a good one)  and from what we sew untill know i am very worried about the direction of this game..

i am not whining if this game is realy an rpg and not action based...so bioware pls tell us whats the problem? ill be calm and happy if they just anser me .. whay didnt they tell us ? think peaple...becus it is an action game...

Modifié par adi4444, 28 juillet 2010 - 09:15 .

[MaxQuartiroli]

adi4444 wrote...
but from what we know untill now it will not be an rpg...

dialoug like in ME...
this game told like a story in the past it will be even non linear than dao was..
combat more action ,,ninja movs? you can kill 20 mobs with one strike? isent that sound like diablo????
not to mention the graphics that is realy  looks like some kind of cartoon....


all this things sound like a hack& slach to me...i didnt sayd that it wont be good game..it will...
but from what we know untill know...it will not be an rpg..jjust action game with some rpg elemnts in it..

and i dont need this kind of game ill prefer diablo 3..or assainss kreed 2..

i dont care about all the changes to the game they can do waht ever they want..but what i care is that it will not be some action hack & slach and that it will still be rpg !!! thats what matter to me!!cuse ther are tons of action games in the market i dont need another one(even that it will be a good one)  and from what we sew untill know i am very worried about the direction of this game..

i am not whining if this game is realy an rpg and not action based...so bioware pls tell us whats the problem? ill be calm and happy if they just anser me .. whay didnt they tell us ? think peaple...becus it is an action game...

If you have the patience to search and read all the post of the devs in this forum you'll find all the anwers and all the reassurances that  you are looking for..
If you won't trust them it's a different kettle of fish then, but they said many times than things are not like you are supposing...

[BlackyBlack]

tjm335 wrote...

We will not get a "true sequel," as we cannot follow our wardens' story. We will be thrust into a premade, albeit customizeable, character (Hawke). No ties to "god child" or Morrigan.

True sequel? As far as I know in 70% of sequels you play as a different character : NwN2, Fable 2, Assassin's Creed 2, KOTOR 2, MGS, Vampire - The Masquerade, GTA, CoD, The Elder Scrolls, Manhunt, BioShock, Devil May Cry etc etc

And you seem to have gotten a lot of false information. Morrigan WILL be part of DA2's story. And since the god child never happened to 50% of people, I doubt it will have more effect than a minor change

And it seems that the combat will be watered down. More hack and slash like Assassin's Creed and Prince of Persia. I've come to love many of your games, but this game quite frankly seems disapointing.

Wrong. Only the console version has been changed to better suit a gamepad and NOTHING has been dumbed down. Sure there's no origins or different races, but there aren't in a lot of RPGs as well

Modifié par BlackyBlack, 28 juillet 2010 - 09:49 .

[Shepard Lives]

OH LOOK IT'S THIS ****ING THREAD AGAIN

[freaktong]

SirOccam wrote...

So in other words:
Hey BioWare, your last game was AMAZING. Wow! You guys are REALLY GOOD AT MAKING GAMES! But the next game isn't about what I want it to be about, so therefore it will suck! In spite of your proven track record! And despite the fact that I know almost nothing about it! How dare you?!

Dragon age awakening?

[SirOccam]

BlackyBlack wrote...

And you seem to have gotten a lot of false information. Morrigan WILL be part of DA2's story. And since the god child never happened to 50% of people, I doubt it will have more effect than a minor change

Not to nitpick, as I agree with the majority of your post, but there has been no official word at all about Morrigan. As far as I know, the only thing people are going on was this blurb from GameInformer:

Will we see any character from Origins in Dragon Age II?
"We are certainly not done with Morrigan's story," hints lead designer Mike Laidlaw. "I can say that."

At the risk of sounding like I'm splitting hairs, the question isn't quoted. We have no idea what the real question was that prompted that line from Mike. If it was indeed asked exactly like that, then I agree it strongly hints at Morrigan's return, but it could have been anything. It could have been an offhand remark that just mentioned Morrigan.

And then, even if it WAS exactly like that, we have no idea what Mike's answer truly means. Technically, it could be as indirect as Flemeth saying something about Morrigan and that would be enough to justify it.

Regardless, this is far from confirmation that she will make an appearance. It's possible, of course, but until it's confirmed, it could easily be "false information" itself.

[TheLion36]

BlackyBlack wrote...
And you seem to have gotten a lot of false information. Morrigan WILL be part of DA2's story. And since the god child never happened to 50% of people, I doubt it will have more effect than a minor change

Not sure where you heard that, all I've heard is that Flemeth has been confirmed... I Could have missed a piece of info though! 

If you are referring to the Morrigans story being unfinished-quote... That could indeed refer to anything, even a DLC!

Modifié par TheLion36, 28 juillet 2010 - 10:23 .

[Lyna357]

It is the evolution of the rpg.

Just accept it, because it's BioWare's decision to go this route and there is nothing we say that will change anything.

[Aradace]

Again, I quote Moderator Javier...."If you play DA2, you WILL play as a Human...His last name WILL be Hawke...And he WILL be fully voiced..." The principle of the matter is this: Stop whining *****ing and moaning and just accept that this is the direction the franchise is going. Either play the game or dont. That simple.

[AjaxDuo]

To judge on so little? you sir are short sighted. Your forgetting this is Bioware not Bethesda, just you wait

[kraze07]

Why is it that anytime someone creates a thread based on negative criticism for one of Bioware's game we get comments like "OH LOOK IT'S THIS ****ING THREAD AGAIN" and the OP is usually labeled a troll. Maybe if people wouldn't shut other people's opinions down all the time we wouldn't see all these different threads.



On topic, we really don't know enough about this game to come to any concrete conclusions, but from the info we do have it looks like Bioware is going the same route they did with ME2. If DA2 turns out like people at this moment are expecting it to turn out then traditional CRPG fans will be a little disappointed, while the core crowd and the diehard fanboys who are happy just to be getting another game will be satisfied with the changes made.

[Massadonious1]

Maybe if people didn't feel like they were special snowflakes, we wouldn't have these kinds of threads.

[triggerhappy456]

why do people keep on starting these whiny threads?

if they dont like the game so much, dont buy it

we are not all dying to here about why you dislike the changes

[Aradace]

AjaxDuo wrote...

...You're forgetting this is Bioware not Bethesda, just you wait

/Garrusheadshot Bethesda

Yea....BioWare's alot of things....But at least they arent Bethesda.  I still think EA is the evil to end all evil though.

[_purifico_]

Enough with the godchild already! God, I swear if I have to hear another whining that goes like "Boohoo I boned Morrigan and now I want the fruit of my loins to be the center of the universe" I'm gonna go kill a bunch of kittens. Gaider has said it already: if you haven't slept with Morrigan - there will be no godchild. Therefore, those of us who are not retarded to the bone can say that the plot of the second game can not possibly revolve around something that differs from one playthrough to another.

Stop being a baby and acknowledge that you are not the only one who played the game.

[Jimmie_Rox]

I'm viewing this game as a fun way of showing the progression of Ferelden between DA:O and it's sequel. What I mean is that this is in effect a way of leading up to the return of Morrigan and the God Child (if the DR was canon and thus would feature in the sequel) without having to try and force it all into a two minute cutscene that skips over a bunch of important stuff that happened. That's probably wrong and a bad assuption on my part but that's my opinion anyway. xD

Edit: By sequel I mean direct sequel, not that a game that just takes place in the same world with a minimum amount of continuation. That much is implied in the name Dragon Age: Origins, that that game is the origin of something and thus should have a direct sequel. Although I'm probably wrong on that too.

Modifié par Jimmie_Rox, 28 juillet 2010 - 11:16 .

[Wishpig]

tjm335 wrote...

It seems that something has gone awry. In DA:O you made a nearly perfect game.

Wow... many many many will disagree with you on that one. DA:O was a great great great game, but it had some damn big flaws.