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[Nightwriter]

I don't think it was a coincidence. I think Sovereign "beamed" in to Saren directly but Harbinger always possesses the drones via the Collector General, and that has something to do with it...

[Redem0]

Since the Turians have a harshell they are hard to make juice out of

[thegreateski]

Turians = Crabs?

[Nightwriter]

Crabs are tasty.

[thegreateski]

Well. The Reapers are just giant cuttlefish. Maybe they see Turians as a competing sea animal.

[Ninniach Lina]

I believe the cause is due to Turian's evolving along a set path due to the radiation their planet had to deal with, which made them lack genetic diversity, and thusly having primitive DNA

[Mallissin]

Turians can't use biotics, hence primitive.

[didymos1120]

Mallissin wrote...

Turians can't use biotics, hence primitive.

Incorrect.  Here's what the codex entry on their military says:

Biotics are uncommon. While admired for their exacting skills, biotics' motives
are not always trusted by the common soldier. The turians prefer to
assign their biotics to specialist teams called Cabals.

Also, this:

[didymos1120]

Nightwriter wrote...

How come when Sovereign possesses Saren, killing Saren kills Sovereign, but when Harbinger possesses a Collector drone, killing the drone doesn't kill Harbinger.

It didn't kill Sovereign.  It just glitched Sovvy for a little bit, and that's all that was needed.  There were also a ton of ships whacking away on the kinetic barriers.  Not enough to break through them, but still a power drain to absorb all that incoming fire.  Not to mention tracking all of them as they flew about while simultaneously continuing to hack into the Citadel and controlling the Robo-Saren avatar while it engaged in 3-on-1 combat.

As for the difference, I put it down to Saren's implants being a bit of a rush job done after Virmire.  There hadn't been enough time for the Reaper stuff to fully integrate with him and actually allow Sovereign to ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL whenever it felt like it.  Such as during the conversation where Saren is able to resist long enough to do this:



You also gotta factor in the large amounts of time the Reapers had to fully optimize both the Collectors themselves and the implants that were used on them.

[Mallissin]

After ME2, I don't take the Codex literally anymore. Could be propaganda, suggesting they have biotics in their military and they're in secret hidden groups, but has anyone seen any?



Besides Saren, I don't remember seeing any Turian biotics in either game. And Saren seems to be a special case, since seems to have been altered so much by Sovereign.

[Anezay]

Mallissin wrote...

After ME2, I don't take the Codex literally anymore. Could be propaganda, suggesting they have biotics in their military and they're in secret hidden groups, but has anyone seen any?

Besides Saren, I don't remember seeing any Turian biotics in either game. And Saren seems to be a special case, since seems to have been altered so much by Sovereign.

Cerberus Daily News mentions some Turian biotic cabals. It says they die from artillary. So they can be biotics, they just suck at it.

[Mr.Caine]

Mallissin wrote...

After ME2, I don't take the Codex literally anymore. Could be propaganda, suggesting they have biotics in their military and they're in secret hidden groups, but has anyone seen any?

Besides Saren, I don't remember seeing any Turian biotics in either game. And Saren seems to be a special case, since seems to have been altered so much by Sovereign.

How often do you run into the Turian military in Mass Effect? Seriously.

[Mallissin]

http://www.cerberusd...news.com/?p=186

Yah, that makes me doubt their existence even more. "We had some, but they got fragged."

Anyway, there were Turians in the Blue Suns and I'm pretty sure we fought a few in ME1 too. I don't remember any using biotics. Same with Salarians.

Modifié par Mallissin, 31 juillet 2010 - 03:49 .

[didymos1120]

Mallissin wrote...
Anyway, there were Turians in the Blue Suns and I'm pretty sure we fought a few in ME1 too. I don't remember any using biotics. Same with Salarians.

Hence the "uncommon".

[NKKKK]

We've faced enemy Batarian biotics though...just saying.

[papapudding]

I just thought about that... I have never seen a female Turian across all my Mass Effect playthroughs and I believe the only occasion where i've heard of a female was when Garrus was explaining how he had reach and she had flexibility... Would Turian be considered too primitive because they keep their women in the kitchen on Palaven to prepare those delicious Dextro-amino meals?

[erilben]

papapudding wrote...

I just thought about that... I have never seen a female Turian across all my Mass Effect playthroughs and I believe the only occasion where i've heard of a female was when Garrus was explaining how he had reach and she had flexibility... Would Turian be considered too primitive because they keep their women in the kitchen on Palaven to prepare those delicious Dextro-amino meals?

They don't do that. If the artists weren't lazy, half the turians you see would be female.

[Mallissin]

I think papapudding just said the Reapers are feminists, in which case...I want to kill them that much more.

[dreman9999]

didymos1120 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

How come when Sovereign possesses Saren, killing Saren kills Sovereign, but when Harbinger possesses a Collector drone, killing the drone doesn't kill Harbinger.

It didn't kill Sovereign.  It just glitched Sovvy for a little bit, and that's all that was needed.  There were also a ton of ships whacking away on the kinetic barriers.  Not enough to break through them, but still a power drain to absorb all that incoming fire.  Not to mention tracking all of them as they flew about while simultaneously continuing to hack into the Citadel and controlling the Robo-Saren avatar while it engaged in 3-on-1 combat.

As for the difference, I put it down to Saren's implants being a bit of a rush job done after Virmire.  There hadn't been enough time for the Reaper stuff to fully integrate with him and actually allow Sovereign to ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL whenever it felt like it.  Such as during the conversation where Saren is able to resist long enough to do this:



You also gotta factor in the large amounts of time the Reapers had to fully optimize both the Collectors themselves and the implants that were used on them.

Their is an answer to this question. Fully possessing a subject drains Reapers. It been comfermed in the new book  ME:Retribution. When possessed Saren was kill it stunned  the reaper allowing the kill shot. Kill the possessed host just stuns the reaper.

[dreman9999]

erilben wrote...

papapudding wrote...

I just thought about that... I have never seen a female Turian across all my Mass Effect playthroughs and I believe the only occasion where i've heard of a female was when Garrus was explaining how he had reach and she had flexibility... Would Turian be considered too primitive because they keep their women in the kitchen on Palaven to prepare those delicious Dextro-amino meals?

They don't do that. If the artists weren't lazy, half the turians you see would be female.

They're in Retribution.
They're just as military as the males.

[didymos1120]

Mallissin wrote...
Besides Saren, I don't remember seeing any Turian biotics in either game. And Saren seems to be a special case, since seems to have been altered so much by Sovereign.

Can't believe I forgot about this 'til now:  who got hired to instruct the kids in the BAaT program?  Yep, you got it: turian biotics.  Most notably, Commander Vyrnnus. So, both the origin of Saren's abilities and the lack of other turians with biotic abilities in-game are irrelevant: they exist.

Modifié par didymos1120, 01 août 2010 - 04:50 .

[Whatever42]

erilben wrote...
 If the artists weren't lazy, half the turians you see would be female.

Maybe half the turians we see are females? 

[SandTrout]

Maybe Saren was a female?!!?



J/K, he's refered to with male pronouns.

[chapa3]

didymos1120 wrote...

Can't believe I forgot about this 'til now:  who got hired to instruct the kids in the BAaT program?  Yep, you got it: turian biotics.  Most notably, Commander Vyrnnus. So, both the origin of Saren's abilities and the lack of other turians with biotic abilities in-game are irrelevant: they exist.

Well, all species can feature biotics in varying frequency. All it requires is a pregnant female to survive an element eezo exposure with no damage to the infant.

[Whatever42]

SandTrout wrote...

Maybe Saren was a female?!!?

J/K, he's refered to with male pronouns.

Perhaps Turians don't distinguish between their sexes in their pronouns? Perhaps the differences between the sexes are so minor than their culture never developed language to differentiate. 

Sure, Garrus does but he takes up with femshep and is clearly a deviant.