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[Funny_chan]

Siradix wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I'm sorry but the design of that specific Qunari seems to be something designed with a "Primitive Warrior" look about them. When the back story of the Qunari, was, that they are advanced compared to those on the shores from which the games take place in.

The paint is overbearing and distracting. Unless its just one that has gone off the rails or a group that dressed up that way for intimidation I don't see how it would fit.

Since they discovered (I believe) gunpowder, I always related the Qunari to the Chinese culture. But I'm probably the only one who thinks that.

I always related the qunari to the Moors, due to their complexion and the similarity that the qun share with the islam.

[DA Trap Star]

Woo, imagine if we had a companion look like that. That would be bad ass

[Mallissin]

David Gaider wrote...
<snip>the point is to create some visual distance between the races-- so they present a different silhouette..<snip>

Yah, like we couldn't easily tell from behind who was who in Origins. I got Shale and Oghren mixed up all the time.

[marquiseondore]

Mary Kirby wrote...

aragfore03 wrote...

A Qunari discussion and no Mary.... doesn't seem right!

I like the new design, personally. Although I do wonder if there's a specific guy in the antaam whose job it is to stencil designs on the other guys' chests. I imagine it must be an honored role. Like the guy who always has to dig the latrine.

Everyone has their place in the Qun.

I was hoping you would tell us the body painting was more a sports fan thing.

[marquiseondore]

Double post

Modifié par marquiseondore, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:40 .

[David Gaider]

mione wrote...
but if in future games Sten comes waltzing in looking like that then I totally want an option saying "Dude, What happened?!" complete with freaked out expression on the warden.

Sten is a hornless qunari. If you see him again, suddenly with horns-- yes, that would be weird.

It would, however, lead to some excellent innuendo. :innocent:

[Sjofn]

Mallissin wrote...

David Gaider wrote...
the point is to create some visual distance between the races-- so they present a different silhouette..

Yah, like we couldn't easily tell from behind who was who in Origins. I got Shale and Oghren mixed up all the time.

Yeeeeah, I gotta say, the only race I think really needed to pop more was the elf.

Like I said before, if the qunari had looked even remotely like this new dude in Origins, I wouldn't care. It just seems like a really, REALLY drastic change, for very little real purpose.

[mdfitz2]

David Gaider wrote...

mione wrote...
but if in future games Sten comes waltzing in looking like that then I totally want an option saying "Dude, What happened?!" complete with freaked out expression on the warden.

Sten is a hornless qunari. If you see him again, suddenly with horns-- yes, that would be weird.

It would, however, lead to some excellent innuendo. :innocent:

thats just body paint right they are still the same color as sten right

[TheMadCat]

Ahzrei wrote...

So... was Sten "supposed" to be white-skinned and kind of demonic looking? Or do most of the Qunari look human-ish?


Until now, I was under the impression that the Qunari were 100% human, and only different from Fereldan's in skin-color and culture for the most part.

That's kind of the problem I'm having here, I don't really have a problem with the model itself and if that was what we released from the cage in Lothreing awesome. But to go from Sten and the mercs to that, much like the Darkspawn, kind of throws a monkey wrench in the lore because that is a seriously drastic change and looks nothing like what we had before.

I mean exactly which one if correct as far as the lore goes?

[mordy_was_here]

TheMadCat wrote...

Ahzrei wrote...

So... was Sten "supposed" to be white-skinned and kind of demonic looking? Or do most of the Qunari look human-ish?


Until now, I was under the impression that the Qunari were 100% human, and only different from Fereldan's in skin-color and culture for the most part.

That's kind of the problem I'm having here, I don't really have a problem with the model itself and if that was what we released from the cage in Lothreing awesome. But to go from Sten and the mercs to that, much like the Darkspawn, kind of throws a monkey wrench in the lore because that is a seriously drastic change and looks nothing like what we had before.

I mean exactly which one if correct as far as the lore goes?

Take off the body paint and it really doesn't look much different.

[David Gaider]

mdfitz2 wrote...
thats just body paint right they are still the same color as sten right

You do know that humans come in different colors, right?

[dheer]

David Gaider wrote...
Sten is a hornless qunari. If you see him again, suddenly with horns-- yes, that would be weird.
It would, however, lead to some excellent innuendo. :innocent:

Ok, that cracked me up.

[mdfitz2]

David Gaider wrote...

mdfitz2 wrote...
thats just body paint right they are still the same color as sten right

You do know that humans come in different colors, right?

thats not what i meant


i meant is there skin is just one color  

[SirOccam]

TheMadCat wrote...

Ahzrei wrote...

So... was Sten "supposed" to be white-skinned and kind of demonic looking? Or do most of the Qunari look human-ish?


Until now, I was under the impression that the Qunari were 100% human, and only different from Fereldan's in skin-color and culture for the most part.

That's kind of the problem I'm having here, I don't really have a problem with the model itself and if that was what we released from the cage in Lothreing awesome. But to go from Sten and the mercs to that, much like the Darkspawn, kind of throws a monkey wrench in the lore because that is a seriously drastic change and looks nothing like what we had before.

I mean exactly which one if correct as far as the lore goes?

Couple things:
1. That's just concept art...they could look wildly different in-game.
2. We never had a large enough sample size to say what "Qunari" looked like. We knew Sten and a couple others, and it's already explained that those without horns were chosen for things like being envoys to other countries.
3. That one is covered in body paint...there's nothing saying all Qunari will be walking around like that.
4. (Mostly to Ahzrei) Sten made it pretty clear that he wasn't human, not only by calling humans "human," but also asking things like "How strong are human teeth?".

[TheMadCat]

Mel213 wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Ahzrei wrote...

So... was Sten "supposed" to be white-skinned and kind of demonic looking? Or do most of the Qunari look human-ish?


Until now, I was under the impression that the Qunari were 100% human, and only different from Fereldan's in skin-color and culture for the most part.

That's kind of the problem I'm having here, I don't really have a problem with the model itself and if that was what we released from the cage in Lothreing awesome. But to go from Sten and the mercs to that, much like the Darkspawn, kind of throws a monkey wrench in the lore because that is a seriously drastic change and looks nothing like what we had before.

I mean exactly which one if correct as far as the lore goes?

Take off the body paint and it really doesn't look much different.

Well, aside from being three times the size (Seen gorillas less buff then that dude), the pointy ears, and different facial structure sure they're similar.

Couple things:
1. That's just concept art...they could look wildly different in-game.
2.
We never had a large enough sample size to say what "Qunari" looked
like. We knew Sten and a couple others, and it's already explained that
those without horns were chosen for things like being envoys to other
countries.
3. That one is covered in body paint...there's nothing saying all Qunari will be walking around like that.
4.
(Mostly to Ahzrei) Sten made it pretty clear that he wasn't human, not
only by calling humans "human," but also asking things like "How strong
are human teeth?".

1. Well, one of them is  CG model so don't know how much more differnent they'll end up looking.
2. I don't know, ran across a ton of mercs. But as I said before it's not the horns that make then stand apart in my eyes, it's the stature and head structure.
3. See point 2.
4. I always took that as simply a cultural thing, much like how during the Roman times upwards of the 16th century Africans weren't considered "human" by the majority of the western world. There just didn't seem to be a real effort to seperate the Quanri from other humans from a biological standpoint aside from size so I always assumed it was nothing more then a cultural seperation. A "We're better then you in every possible way so we'll seperate ourselves from you." 

Modifié par TheMadCat, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:55 .

[Addai]

Brockololly wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

I wonder if they'd end up looking like... Na'vi minus the blue skin. Look at where the Shriek's ears are.

I'm thinking exactly the same thing- the whole reference to Plains Indians in the GI Art article made me think of Na'vi and if it seems BioWare is redesigning the races based on how their darkspawn versions look, then yeah I could see the Elves looking more like Shrieks, or Na'vi, if you prefer.

The Na'vi look pretty animalistic to me, however- leonine face, etc.  Crikey I hope that's not what elves are going to look like.  For one thing, you'd have to explain any dramatic changes from Origins in ways that don't retcon.  With the Qunari, we haven't seen many yet so a dramatic change is more natural.

[mione]

David Gaider wrote...

mione wrote...
but if in future games Sten comes waltzing in looking like that then I totally want an option saying "Dude, What happened?!" complete with freaked out expression on the warden.

Sten is a hornless qunari. If you see him again, suddenly with horns-- yes, that would be weird.

It would, however, lead to some excellent innuendo. :innocent:

Mr.Gaider I was wondering if it's not too soon or too much of an spoiler could you please explain the difference between an horned and unhorned Qunari? is it something akin to genitics like maybe different races of qunari like the difference between an Caucasian person and an Asian person?

[thegreateski]

filaminstrel wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

mdfitz2 wrote...
thats just body paint right they are still the same color as sten right

You do know that humans come in different colors, right?

So the codex entry describes them as bronze-skinned giants because those are the only ones Brother Genitivi ever encountered?

The bronze skinned ones ARE the "public face" of their race.

[mordy_was_here]

Sorry, have you seen Sten's concept art? No, I don't think he's 'three times his size', and considering that it is *just* concept art, I'm not that worried. People come in all shapes and sizes - I don't see the problem with this one having a different facial structure. Lack of jowls like the ones that Sten was sporting in game isn't a bad thing, in my opinion.

Edit: Spelling, mkay.

Modifié par Mel213, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:51 .

[Demx]

David Gaider wrote...

mdfitz2 wrote...
thats just body paint right they are still the same color as sten right

You do know that humans come in different colors, right?

I believe mdfitz2 is aware of that, but I think mdfitz2 was thinking race for each origin not species.

[Funny_chan]

TheMadCat wrote...

Ahzrei wrote...

So... was Sten "supposed" to be white-skinned and kind of demonic looking? Or do most of the Qunari look human-ish?


Until now, I was under the impression that the Qunari were 100% human, and only different from Fereldan's in skin-color and culture for the most part.

That's kind of the problem I'm having here, I don't really have a problem with the model itself and if that was what we released from the cage in Lothreing awesome. But to go from Sten and the mercs to that, much like the Darkspawn, kind of throws a monkey wrench in the lore because that is a seriously drastic change and looks nothing like what we had before.

I mean exactly which one if correct as far as the lore goes?

I think that the change in the darkspawn look may be explained by the different climate. I mean... Even in real life, some animals do adapt to the climate they're in.

[dheer]

filaminstrel wrote...
So the codex entry describes them as bronze-skinned giants because those are the only ones Brother Genitivi ever encountered?

That would make sense, I think. Almost everything in this universe is told from a person's persepective and it usually contradicts with someone else.

[slikster]

I for one think this is fine, and the new lore doesn't break any of the old.

Here's a fact from the real world to support the notion that the same species can have different physical characteristics, specifically concerning horns. Cattle, sheep and goats can be born to never have horns, and as you all should know, all three species can also have them.

Some reading on this

Also, the god of war character vs Qunari similarities. Besides paint colour and muscle tone, they look nothing alike. Different flags have the same colour schemes too, they must all be clones. Also, the Quinari has a totally different body type and facial structure.