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[Jimmy Fury]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...
I'm sorry but the design of that specific Qunari seems to be something designed with a "Primitive Warrior" look about them. When the back story of the Qunari, was, that they are advanced compared to those on the shores from which the games take place in.

I don't think a "primitive warrior look" and "advancment in comparison to other cultures" are mutually exclusive concepts.

Ahzrei wrote...
So... was
Sten "supposed" to be white-skinned and kind of demonic looking? Or do
most of the Qunari look human-ish?
Until now, I was under the
impression that the Qunari were 100% human, and only different from
Fereldan's in skin-color and culture for the most part.

Sten had pointy ears and Morrigan called him a beast 9or was it creature? I can't remember now)... not sure where you got the impression that they were 100% human.

TheMadCat wrote...
That's
kind of the problem I'm having here, I don't really have a problem with
the model itself and if that was what we released from the cage in
Lothreing awesome. But to go from Sten and the mercs to that, much like
the Darkspawn, kind of throws a monkey wrench in the lore because that
is a seriously drastic change and looks nothing like what we had before.

I mean exactly which one if correct as far as the lore goes?

Both are correct as far as the lore goes.

[Funny_chan]

TheMadCat wrote...

Mel213 wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Ahzrei wrote...

So... was Sten "supposed" to be white-skinned and kind of demonic looking? Or do most of the Qunari look human-ish?


Until now, I was under the impression that the Qunari were 100% human, and only different from Fereldan's in skin-color and culture for the most part.

That's kind of the problem I'm having here, I don't really have a problem with the model itself and if that was what we released from the cage in Lothreing awesome. But to go from Sten and the mercs to that, much like the Darkspawn, kind of throws a monkey wrench in the lore because that is a seriously drastic change and looks nothing like what we had before.

I mean exactly which one if correct as far as the lore goes?

Take off the body paint and it really doesn't look much different.

Well, aside from being three times the size (Seen gorillas less buff then that dude), the pointy ears, and different facial structure sure they're similar.

The other qunari already had pointy ears. And the fact that he seems a bit bigger than Sten (who is already huge)  may be because he is like an "alfa male" of the qunaris.

[Saraphial]

I think this begs the question: Do lady qunari people have the ability to grow horns as well? What does a lady qunari even look like? Is it drastically different from the men, or do they have very large, strong builds as well? Will we even see one in DA2?



...I apologize, that was definitely more than one question...

[RogueWriter3201]

This really blows me away. Basically, BioWare has decided to expand on what little we *know* about Qunari, historically and visually, in a big way by unveling a new portion of their Race and Culture that no one really knew *anything* about beyond what The Sten chose to tell us, and people are basically telling The Lead Writers that said expansion of said Race and Culture is Wrong...despite the fact that *No One* knew anything *more* about the Qunari until now. So, in essence, some of you are stamping your feet, pouting, and telling BioWare that they are "Ret-Conning" a species *They* created and that *We* know next to nothing about aside from some places their people settled, a few creatures they are at War with, and some other minor details that very well could have been told from the unique perspective of a Lone Survivng Scout. I mean...I get that what people love more than holding up someone or something on a pedestal is pulling said someone or something *Off* that pedestal, but this is just ridiculous. I mean to have the audacity to tell the writers and creators of the game, "You don't know what you're doing!" is Ridiculous.

[Jimmy Fury]

Mel213 wrote...

Sorry, have you seen Sten's concept art? No, I don't think he's 'three times his size', and considering that it is *just* concept art, I'm not that worried. People come in all shapes and sizes - I don't see the problem with this one having a different facial structure. Lack of jowls like the ones that Sten was sporting in game isn't a bad thing, in my opinion.

Edit: Spelling, mkay.

Indeed. Concept sten looks much closer to this concept Qunari than it does to in-game Sten

[mordy_was_here]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Sten had pointy ears and Morrigan called him a beast 9or was it creature? I can't remember now)... not sure where you got the impression that they were 100% human.

The reaction the chantry woman has to Sten when he attempts to break you out Fort Drakon also suggests that he should look a bit more strange than he does. Call me crazy, but I like what they've done with the Qunari.

[Lux]

David Gaider's passion on (the rushed) version 2 actually soothes my concerns, despite the loss of roleplaying options and the dumb d... err... streamlined mechanics.

[Funny_chan]

mione wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

mione wrote...
but if in future games Sten comes waltzing in looking like that then I totally want an option saying "Dude, What happened?!" complete with freaked out expression on the warden.

Sten is a hornless qunari. If you see him again, suddenly with horns-- yes, that would be weird.

It would, however, lead to some excellent innuendo. :innocent:

Mr.Gaider I was wondering if it's not too soon or too much of an spoiler could you please explain the difference between an horned and unhorned Qunari? is it something akin to genitics like maybe different races of qunari like the difference between an Caucasian person and an Asian person?

I think that the horned qunaris are the qunaris "alfa-males".

[Riona45]

filaminstrel wrote...


So the codex entry describes them as bronze-skinned giants because those are the only ones Brother Genitivi ever encountered?

Since one of the themes of DA is, to me, how one source of information will never give you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, I'd say that's a fair assumption to make.

[phaonica]

Addai67 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

I wonder if they'd end up looking like... Na'vi minus the blue skin. Look at where the Shriek's ears are.

I'm thinking exactly the same thing- the whole reference to Plains Indians in the GI Art article made me think of Na'vi and if it seems BioWare is redesigning the races based on how their darkspawn versions look, then yeah I could see the Elves looking more like Shrieks, or Na'vi, if you prefer.

The Na'vi look pretty animalistic to me, however- leonine face, etc.  Crikey I hope that's not what elves are going to look like.  For one thing, you'd have to explain any dramatic changes from Origins in ways that don't retcon.  With the Qunari, we haven't seen many yet so a dramatic change is more natural.

They don't have to have the animal face. Maybe what they could take from the Na'vi are the feathers and the braids and the beads. Consider them without the blue, the tail, and the Na'vi face and they might be cool.
http://www.avatar-wa...ri pose_800.jpg

Modifié par phaonica, 29 juillet 2010 - 04:05 .

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

I just hope not every qunari will be clones of one model like in DAO.. regardless of which model they use in Da2.

[Riona45]

Funny_chan wrote...
I think that the horned qunaris are the qunaris "alfa-males".

But then they would be a small percentage of the population, wouldn't they?  We've just been told that Qunari without horns are the ones that are less common.

[Brockololly]

phaonica wrote...

They don't have to have the animal face. Maybe what they could take from the Na'vi are the feathers and the braids and the beads. Consider them without the blue, the tail, and the Na'vi face and they might be cool.
http://www.avatar-wa...ri pose_800.jpg

Yeah, thats what I was thinking- more of the Na'vi sort of dress, not necessarily making the elves 10 feet tall blue aliens.

And the Na'vi are basically based on native american style anyway, really. Like I've said a million times before, I'm not a fan of visual retcons like this- I'd like to be able to play DA2 and go through it and go "Oh thats a Qunari, thats Flemeth, thats a hurlock, thats Morrigan" and not "Whoa! Hold on- THAT'S no qunari, is it? Like, really? Hang on a second- since when is Flemeth all stylish? Huh... Hold up! Thats no darkspawn hurlock- thats Skeletor with a good dental plan! " and so on.

VISUAL CONSISTENCY is all I ask for. Especially if any of the companions come back- don't mess with their faces too much, please? I'd like to be able to recognize people not solely based on their voices...

Modifié par Brockololly, 29 juillet 2010 - 04:12 .

[Loc'n'lol]

David Gaider wrote...

mdfitz2 wrote...
thats just body paint right they are still the same color as sten right

You do know that humans come in different colors, right?

As far as I can remember, all Qunari in Origins & Awakening came in the same color, straight out of the factory. That was not an unreasonable assumption I think.  

[Mox Ruuga]

Grommash94 wrote...

I am guessing that not ALL the Qunari we meet will have horns. Only some special ones.

I'm guessing it's the other way around, no more hornless Qunari for us!

I'm not sure how I feel about changes like this. Stinks of the comicbookification that happened with ME2.

Bah!

[hexaligned]

I like it, adds some visual variety to the races. Hopefully we get one as a party member.

[David Gaider]

mione wrote...
Mr.Gaider I was wondering if it's not too soon or too much of an spoiler could you please explain the difference between an horned and unhorned Qunari? is it something akin to genitics like maybe different races of qunari like the difference between an Caucasian person and an Asian person?

It may be genetic-- I'm hesitant to get into a discussion of genetics in fantasy races, but certainly the Talmassrans selectively breed qunari and from the nature of qunari society it might not be too far a stretch to suppose that they breed them to suit their roles more closely.

Hornless qunari are not rare freaks of nature-- simply uncommon. Most of the Ben-Hassrath are hornless, for instance, and thus your average qunari might be forgiven for thinking that a lack of horns is very intimidating.

[Addai]

phaonica wrote...

They don't have to have the animal face. Maybe what they could take from the Na'vi are the feathers and the braids and the beads. Consider them without the blue, the tail, and the Na'vi face and they might be cool.
http://www.avatar-wa...ri pose_800.jpg

So just more flexible?  Or do you mean the hair and clothing?

Already there are quite a few differences between DAO and the books, such as elves having unsettling, cat-like eyes and the Dalish wearing colorful robes along with leathers.  Shoot, where was this guy in Origins?!

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

That is Berwick. Can't you tell???

[Addai]

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

That is Berwick. Can't you tell???

Heh, that guy could have snapped little Berwick in half.

[Jimmy Fury]

Riona45 wrote...

Funny_chan wrote...
I think that the horned qunaris are the qunaris "alfa-males".

But then they would be a small percentage of the population, wouldn't they?  We've just been told that Qunari without horns are the ones that are less common.

genetically speaking dominant males have more influence over the traits of the whole population since they breed more. As the circumstances change though traits become more or less important. Since this is all pure speculation it could be argued that the horns were a desirable traits while the Qunari were secluded but a lack of horns became desirable after they discovered other races and needed to look less frightening to others...

-edit. nevermind! Was typing and watching TV when Gaider posted. Genetic part still stands as a theory though.-

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 29 juillet 2010 - 04:29 .

[Wishpig]

Damn cool! Qunari? Their look, that's what. Awesome concept, a ton of promise, but they just looked like tall bulky humans. I understand why this would ****** many off though...

But it does make sense if your willing to stretch a few things.

Modifié par Wishpig, 29 juillet 2010 - 04:28 .

[Querne]

Don´t like.
I don´t mind the picture basicly, but
a)
A horned guy looking like a blue Hell Boy is not very special or creative in any kind of meaning.
He could be just as well one of the demons in the fade.
In the ending the original design was far more interesting because not seen before imo.


The explanation is more than flimsy.
We weren´t either told that the oldest eleves are 20 feets big, purple and have a trunk.
That wouldn´t make elves 20 feets big, purple and having trunks better or more reliable.

Modifié par Querne, 29 juillet 2010 - 04:29 .

[Riona45]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Were we?
(honest question I skipped a few pages of the thread so i might have missed it)
The article only says "The mark is considered special" Special isn't necessarily uncommon.

In the article, IIRC.  And, see Dave Gaider's post just above.

[joey_mork84]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Funny_chan wrote...
I think that the horned qunaris are the qunaris "alfa-males".

But then they would be a small percentage of the population, wouldn't they?  We've just been told that Qunari without horns are the ones that are less common.

Were we?
(honest question I skipped a few pages of the thread so i might have missed it)
The article only says "The mark is considered special" Special isn't necessarily uncommon.

Here you go

David Gaider wrote...

Hornless qunari are not rare freaks
of nature-- simply uncommon. Most of the Ben-Hassrath are hornless, for
instance, and thus your average qunari might be forgiven for thinking
that a lack of horns is very intimidating.

Damn. Ninja'd

Modifié par joey_mork84, 29 juillet 2010 - 04:29 .