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[marquiseondore]

filetemo wrote...

I'm calling it now: our qunari companion is a mage who fleed from par vollen because he didn't want to be put on leashes. You heard it here first

With his tongue cut out how would we communicate with him?

[Jimmy Fury]

the_one_54321 wrote...
You're right that it's kind of the opposite of what Tolkien did. But I see it as that Tolkien took old spoken stories and myths and turned them all into an elaborate fantasy world that was his own. And that fantasy world that he created is what has inspired the entirety of the Fantasy Genre since then. In that much I don't take any exception at all.

I uhm... Ok I just want to check one thing (i know I said I was done but this isn't part of the debate it's just a quick question) because I'm getting an odd impression off of what you're saying.

You're aware that The Hobbit and LOTR were written in the 1930's and 40's right? And that many of his influences were other writers both peers and predecessors?
I just want to ask, not trying to insult or anything. Just the wording of that second statement was strange and made it seem as though you believe Tolkein's only sources of inspiration were ancient oral traditions...

[SoR82]

Still not seeing an explanation where the claws arrived from.... unless i missed it in the mass of posts horns removed.... dumb but okay if you say so... where did the claws go on the original?

[HighlandBerserkr]

marquiseondore wrote...

filetemo wrote...

I'm calling it now: our qunari companion is a mage who fleed from par vollen because he didn't want to be put on leashes. You heard it here first

With his tongue cut out how would we communicate with him?

Make it a her and you got a deal we alrady seen plenty male Qunari.

[filetemo]

marquiseondore wrote...

filetemo wrote...

I'm calling it now: our qunari companion is a mage who fleed from par vollen because he didn't want to be put on leashes. You heard it here first

With his tongue cut out how would we communicate with him?

sign-language dialogue wheel FTW!!!!

No, really, maybe he escaped before being mutilated or he was been raised apart of the qunari society by outsiders, or maybe the arishok saw something special about him and spared him.

[Carmen_Willow]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Hmmm... this reminds me of the Overlords from Childhood's End for some reason.
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Great Book! But Sten would need a tail to qualify.

[the_one_54321]

Jimmy Fury wrote...
You're aware that The Hobbit and LOTR were written in the 1930's and 40's right? And that many of his influences were other writers both peers and predecessors?
I just want to ask, not trying to insult or anything. Just the wording of that second statement was strange and made it seem as though you believe Tolkein's only sources of inspiration were ancient oral traditions...

Yes, and The Hobbit was his first work set in Middle Earth. Before he actually created Middle Earth. After The Hobbit he created the wolrd of the TLotR and even went back and changed a couple of minor details in The Hobbit to fit the new continuity. The inspiration for the creation of the world of Middle Earth was primarily from the old European myths and legends.

[marquiseondore]

filetemo wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

filetemo wrote...

I'm calling it now: our qunari companion is a mage who fleed from par vollen because he didn't want to be put on leashes. You heard it here first

With his tongue cut out how would we communicate with him?

sign-language dialogue wheel FTW!!!!

No, really, maybe he escaped before being mutilated or he was been raised apart of the qunari society by outsiders, or maybe the arishok saw something special about him and spared him.

Who knows, but the title of the GI image is Qunari swordsman.

[filetemo]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Wait. When did this turn into an LOTR discussion?

when the tiflings from D&D were brought up, then differentiation of DA from LOTR, then running from LOTR to D&D.

Next stage of the thread: JRPG'S, then Twilight, then emos, japan, marylin manson, beards, romancing Bethany and lockdown by stan woo.

[Saibh]

filetemo wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Wait. When did this turn into an LOTR discussion?

when the tiflings from D&D were brought up, then differentiation of DA from LOTR, then running from LOTR to D&D.

Next stage of the thread: JRPG'S, then Twilight, then emos, japan, marylin manson, beards, romancing Bethany and lockdown by stan woo.

Now you've done it.

[filetemo]

romancing bethany is the final boss of the bioware forums.

[Bryy_Miller]

Fil, go sit in the corner.

[Jamie9]

Just a second, I killed at least 20 Qunari mercenaries in the game and they all looked similar to Sten! I'm all riled up now, I love continuity. It is very unlikely the 21 Qunari the Warden say all were missing horns and looked different. I'm afraid that David Gaider has failed to keep continuity in shape with DAO and DA2, this isn't the same universe.... First Darkspawn ruined, and now Qunari.

It's not that they are bad designs, it's that they aren't the same, if they were like that in Origins I wouldn't mind but they're sooooo different and for no reason.

Modifié par Jamie9, 29 juillet 2010 - 07:01 .

[Addai]

rolson00 wrote...

just wanted to point this out
you know amaranthine the place where the elves came from? and Cameron our dalish friend?
well i came across their names in mass effect DAO took them from ME!

I think you mean Arlathan and Cammen?  So, not ME easter eggs AFAIK, though I recall there was a codex about a dwarf named Shepard and the mass effect.

[Aratham Darksight]

Jamie9 wrote...

Just a second, I killed at least 20 Qunari mercenaries in the game and they all looked similar to Sten! I'm all riled up now, I love continuity. It is very unlikely the 21 Qunari the Warden say all were missing horns and looked different. I'm afraid that David Gaider has failed to keep continuity in shape with DAO and DA2, this isn't the same universe....

All qunari mercenaries are, by definition, Tal'Vashoth. The article mentions that it is common for Tal'Vashoth to remove their horns.
Consistency restored! 

[SoR82]

David Gaider wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...
They don't need to evolve. Nothing is wrong with them. If you want something different. Think up new ideas instead of bastardizing ideas that were never yours.

Then who's are they, exactly?

Like it or not, they're part of the fantasy milieu. We're using them and we're going to put our own spin on them, and continue to evolve them in Dragon Age as we see fit.

Sooo your taking your ball and going home?

[Addai]

Jamie9 wrote...

Just a second, I killed at least 20 Qunari mercenaries in the game and they all looked similar to Sten! I'm all riled up now, I love continuity. It is very unlikely the 21 Qunari the Warden say all were missing horns and looked different. I'm afraid that David Gaider has failed to keep continuity in shape with DAO and DA2, this isn't the same universe.... First Darkspawn ruined, and now Qunari.

It's not that they are bad designs, it's that they aren't the same, if they were like that in Origins I wouldn't mind but they're sooooo different and for no reason.

The new design does preserve continuity.  Codex calls the qunari "horned men" and the ogres had horns.  Since there are both horned and unhorned qunari and those who dealt with other races were the latter, there is no continuity break.

I'm a little more curious about the claws, though.

[Dick Delaware]

SirShreK wrote...
Yes. An advanced civilization with Cannons does indeed need warpaint? How else will they tell their enemies they intend to be serious? Practicality be damned.

To be fair, it might not be warpaint. Tribal chiefs and shamans wore paint to distinguish themselves among their people, not out of practicality. Maybe it's a mark of status, as the article mentioned horned qunari being Ben-Hassrans.

[Bryy_Miller]

Saibh wrote...

filetemo wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Wait. When did this turn into an LOTR discussion?

when the tiflings from D&D were brought up, then differentiation of DA from LOTR, then running from LOTR to D&D.

Next stage of the thread: JRPG'S, then Twilight, then emos, japan, marylin manson, beards, romancing Bethany and lockdown by stan woo.

Now you've done it.

Have you seen the thread where people have seemingly found a loophole to talk about this? "Flemeth can inhabit Bethany's body, and in that sense, it's not REALLY incest"

[nightcobra]

Dick Delaware wrote...

SirShreK wrote...
Yes. An advanced civilization with Cannons does indeed need warpaint? How else will they tell their enemies they intend to be serious? Practicality be damned.

To be fair, it might not be warpaint. Tribal chiefs and shamans wore paint to distinguish themselves among their people, not out of practicality. Maybe it's a mark of status, as the article mentioned horned qunari being Ben-Hassrans.

a rite of passage into the beresaad or another warrior cast maybe?

[Nerevar-as]

Kordaris wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Andrzej Sapkowski's books are actually amalgamate of East European and arthurian legends...

The stories. The cycle is post-modernist pretentious pile of paper best used for other purposes. And  I speak that as Pole.

Well, I think they are on par with ASoI&F, even though the only thing they have in common is they are both dark fantasy. Most arthurian references are from the saga rather than the tales.

More on topic, if they keep changing the way things look it could well end backfiring. Game atmosphere depends as much of narration (which is changed to the equivalent of 3rd person view) and the looks of the world. Change too much and it won´t feel a DA story to many people. It might have been better if the game had been DA:Whatever rather than DA2, after all the story is more spinoff than sequel.