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[David Gaider]

KLUME777 wrote...
dont know if this has been said but,

Why are ther no ogres with no horns?

How do you know there aren't?

[David Gaider]

rolson00 wrote...
in response to David Gaider comments i think the guy was on about continuity as long as there is a reason why explained(and i think they have told us that there is a reason in the game) people will be happy.

On the contrary, my experience tells me that fans are never happy.

Placated, perhaps. And even then only momentarily.

[David Gaider]

Biotic Budah wrote...
As Nancy Grace would say "BS". I realize as a writer you feel ownership of the game, but in your rebuttal there on the first page of this thread it's almost like you're saying "It's my game and I'll do what I want with it, NYAH!" Go eat a snickers bar, you're starting to sound like a diva.

Being unapologetic does not make you a diva.

Being talented makes you a diva.
 
If someone wants to call me a diva, I'm okay with that.

I understand wanting to be creative, but for example, we meet Mr. Spock from planet Vulcan. He has pointy ears. On another episode we meet another Vulcan, but this guy wears pimp clothes and calls himself A pimp named Slickback. Some Vulcans are scientists, others are pimps. Sounds crazy huh? Given what most geeks know about vulcans.

You know plenty about vulcans. It would indeed seem strange to have that happen now, or to suddenly discover that klingons have an armored carapace on their forehead even when the viewer had no earlier indication this was so (wacky!). The fact that you don't like the change doesn't change the fact that your exposure to the race was limited. That's all I've said.

Putting horns on a race that had no indication of having them is just plain wacky. Sten was not the only Qunari we met in the game. What about Jarvy and Tenanga at the Pearl? Or the other assorted Qunari mercenaries through out? Not a doggone one had horns! What's next? Deadpool gonna have optic bla........oh. I mean Indiana Jones gonna be battling alien......no, wait, wait...I know, 10 foot dwarves!

As I've said elsewhere, nobody's talking about making dwarves 10 feet tall or putting unicorn horns on elves. That's reductio ad absurdum, plain and simple.

The point is you are already making a big creative change by dictating the race of our character for one example. I think the Qunari are hardcore enough given the dialogue and backstory for the Qunari, but to explain that some Qunari have horns, some do not, that dog just don't hunt son. All I gotta say is, you better have a pretty dang good story and even better game play or you risk alienating your core fan base.

The artistic style of the game is changing, which will change how everything looks to a point. The change to the qunari (and, for example, the darkspawn) is more significant. Considering the host of other changes also applying to the game's overall style, if horns on a qunari are the worst complaint that the "core fan base" can lodge I think they'll survive.

If you wish to take that as a "diva-like" comment, then by all means do so. I adore our fans (if I didn't, I wouldn't be here at all) and it doesn't upset me at all if some of them choose to take umbrage with any changes we make. We are changing things around. Plenty of things, for a lot of reasons-- at least one of which is because we thought some things needed changing. The important stuff, to us, will remain the same. And that's simply the way it is.

Modifié par David Gaider, 04 août 2010 - 03:09 .

[David Gaider]

Woodstock-TC wrote...
it really must be a delight to work in the gaming industry :-)
I just imagine holding that kind of speech to our stakeholders at the next review.

If that's meant to be a comparison between what's going on here in these forums and being "reviewed" by stakeholders, it's an interesting take on things-- I'll give you that.

[David Gaider]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Devs make changes all the time, and they're largely for the better, and we the fanbase largely indulge in some wankage before most of us get over it and just enjoy the game.

True, though not everyone who was a fan of DAO is going to enjoy DA2. I think that's a given-- we're making a lot of changes, and they're not going to be to everyone's liking. That's true between any sequel-- you're going to win some new fans and lose some old ones, and that's probably doubly true when you make changes to the "formula". Everyone's free to declare what they do or don't like and what they'd prefer to see (like we could stop them), but treating it like it's a broken promise is, I think, taking that a bit too far.

[David Gaider]

BrotherWarth wrote...
David Gaider, your responses really do come off as uncaring towards Origins fans. Yeah, you make the games and we just play them. But we're your bosses. I don't know if you're familiar with Gene Simmons'(of KISS fame) philosophy on his career and his fans, but he calls concert-goers and album-purchasers "the bosses." He knows that the fan base dictates whether or not he gets payed. And he's been massively successful, in part, because he understands this. You may see it as your world to change as you will, but we decide if you get to change it at all. With our wallets. Something to consider at least.

Sorry, but you don't get to decide what games we make-- only what games you buy. In the larger sense, yes, if what we put out there isn't what enough people want then we'll be in trouble. But that's our gamble to make, I'm afraid.

We listen to our fans and are very interested in what they want-- but we're talking about a much larger group of people with varied interests, much larger than the people who come to these forums. In the end you'll have to decide for yourself if DA2 is what you want, but calling me an uncaring meanie just for saying this is what we're doing-- well, I don't really know what to say about that. I get that you're disappointed, but there's a level of entitlement with what you're saying that maybe you need to think about a little. If that makes me an ogre, then I guess I'm an ogre.