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#2851
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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Eh.

Why beat around the bush?


Ah...because I can? I dunno.
Spice things up, I guess.
As long as her belly is around, it's good enough for me.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...
What would you guys prefer? Would you give up Shepard's VA for more Tali dialogue?

I'd actually say no.

I say yes. Mark Meer is an incredibally lackluster VA.
And Jennifer Hale's "Marine" voice is a little off...

#2853
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Goat_Shepard wrote...
Yes, I've thought about it as well. For Bioware's sake, they can't write the romance stories where one person is "fixed" because if you try a different romance or a play a different gender, you'd feel like me; dead inside. You also have to have progression in the romance, where the two come out happier or better people, right? Not an envious writing job, now that I think about it. With Tali, I've never rejected her, but I have a feeling that dead feeling will come back :pinched:

I'm having a hard time thinking of an example in western games, but in Japanese games you get a lot of things where the story literally does change.  Like:  if you take this route, X problem will happen, but if you take another route Y will happen and there's no mention of X.  The route not taken simply doesn't exist.

No matter where you go in terms of LI in ME2, you're still going to find yourself at the Flotilla, listening to "I got better Shepard, I got you."

Maybe it's not a healthy attitude on my part.  But it's the one I'm stuck with for whatever reason.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

Welcome to Mass Effect. A dozen squaddies and 2 fully voiced protagonists.

Or have more lengthy convos with a silent Warden. We can't win!


Silent Warden standing still, staring blankly into space would be hilarous in Mass Effect.


What would you guys prefer? Would you give up Shepard's VA for more Tali dialogue?

I'd actually say no.


I agree.

If that was the case... you wouldn't have:

"I don't want anyone else... I want you..."

I'll take that over silent protagonist any day.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...
What would you guys prefer? Would you give up Shepard's VA for more Tali dialogue?

I'd actually say no.

Hell to the yes for me.  See, I'm used to silent protagonists.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

What would you guys prefer? Would you give up Shepard's VA for more Tali dialogue?

I'd actually say no.


Then it loses its point. 

Tali having more dialogue, but no dashing commander nearby to respond to her snarkyness?

No thanks...

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phonypapercut wrote...

Backlit in the context of that article means the light is hitting a different part of the sensor, not that there is a seperate light shining on the back. Bioluminescence would ruin night vision and let prey see you coming.


Let it be known, bioluminescence would impair vision just as badly as tapetum lucidum would. (If not less, as the ammount of light emitting from behind/in front of your retina wouldn't constantly vary, which is the whole point of those backlit sensors, though they aren't literally emitting light from behind the sensor as it may have seemed I was implying)

As for the prey seeing you coming, again, we do not know what the quarians have evolved from, nor why they have illumination assisted eyes (through one way or the other), the angler fish theory has just as much chance as them being ambush predators in the traditional sense.

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While it isn't exactly Tali related (yet anyway, I'm sure she will focus a chapter on our favorite quarian soon) I think this writer is absolutely fantastic at capturing the characters. And if her last story "Invictus" is any indication then Tali and Garrus are definitely the characters she is best at writing.



http://www.fanfictio...s_Possibilities

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

What would you guys prefer? Would you give up Shepard's VA for more Tali dialogue?

I'd actually say no.


Then it loses its point. 

Tali having more dialogue, but no dashing commander nearby to respond to her snarkyness?

No thanks...


Agreed. Shepard's interaction are part of what make Mass Effect great. Sure, the VA isn't ALWAYS perfect, but the point usually gets across. It makes Shepard feel like an actual CHARACTER, and not an avatar.

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I'd prefer the silent protagonist definitely. I'm getting to the point where I don't care about any of the romances because they're so shallowly done. I'll take the romances I've created in my own head any day.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

What would you guys prefer? Would you give up Shepard's VA for more Tali dialogue?

I'd actually say no.


Then it loses its point. 

Tali having more dialogue, but no dashing commander nearby to respond to her snarkyness?

No thanks...


Agreed. Shepard's interaction are part of what make Mass Effect great. Sure, the VA isn't ALWAYS perfect, but the point usually gets across. It makes Shepard feel like an actual CHARACTER, and not an avatar.

still gotta work on some of those animations though, the "bioware face" :mellow:has plagued both me1 and 2

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NuclearBuddha wrote...
Hell to the yes for me.  See, I'm used to silent protagonists.


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Idk, I love that guy though :P

I agree with Rip.

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Kalashnikov wrote...
still gotta work on some of those animations though, the "bioware face" :mellow:has plagued both me1 and 2

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Agreed. Shepard's interaction are part of what make Mass Effect great. Sure, the VA isn't ALWAYS perfect, but the point usually gets across. It makes Shepard feel like an actual CHARACTER, and not an avatar.


For example:
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Just be happy Shepard doesn't make the face he makes during Miranda's romance.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Hell to the yes for me.  See, I'm used to silent protagonists.

Idk, I love that guy though :P

I agree with Rip.

I'm okay with things the way they are, and I wouldn't suggest they change for ME3 (it'd be pretty strange) but if ME had been done from the start with a silent protag and more dialogue from everyone else (especially dat accent) you would not hear a complaint from me.

Edit: also:
*silent Link*
"What?  Say something!  Or am I so beautiful you have no words left?"

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

*snip*

Idk, I love that guy though :P

I agree with Rip.


"In a time like this, it pays to be the strong silent type."
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mrsph wrote...

Just be happy Shepard doesn't make the face he makes during Miranda's romance.

Which is? (Sorry, not a chance in hell I'll do her romance, nor watch it on Youtube)

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Thundertactics wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Just be happy Shepard doesn't make the face he makes during Miranda's romance.

Which is? (Sorry, not a chance in hell I'll do her romance, nor watch it on Youtube)

Rapeface.

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Thundertactics wrote...
Which is? (Sorry, not a chance in hell I'll do her romance, nor watch it on Youtube)

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Thundertactics wrote...

Which is? (Sorry, not a chance in hell I'll do her romance, nor watch it on Youtube)


The infamous rapeface.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Rapeface.

Ah, so the one in the motivator above? I guess that's a yes.
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I like both the expressions in this pic, both of them looks so... Relaxed.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...
I'm having a hard time thinking of an example in western games, but in Japanese games you get a lot of things where the story literally does change.  Like:  if you take this route, X problem will happen, but if you take another route Y will happen and there's no mention of X.  The route not taken simply doesn't exist.


Bioware has had far more immersive and choice-effecting games in the past, no? I think it was JE or BG. Not sure.

No matter where you go in terms of LI in ME2, you're still going to find yourself at the Flotilla, listening to "I got better Shepard, I got you."

Maybe it's not a healthy attitude on my part.  But it's the one I'm stuck with for whatever reason.


Well, I know I come off as trolling, but the reason is because I have the same dilemma. You're gunna hear the line, you have to talk to her to get the Shield Upgrade. She could have developed something over those 2 months, and then again after Shepard's death and becoming an adult, but the path is linear after that. You have to accept or reject, do you not?

This is not good.

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mrsph wrote...

Just be happy Shepard doesn't make the face he makes during Miranda's romance.


Then she would probably say that she needs to fix something. At the other end of the ship.

And then slowly make her way past Shep as she's holding up her hands to keep a distance between her and him, and as soon she's clear, she runs as fast as she can.Posted Image