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I'm curious what the krogan path would have been without alien interference personally.  They're extremely durable and strong, but would they have achieved galactic travel before wiping themselves out?  I doubt it personally, unless they had a good space program that I don't know about. 

Not sure why the quarians would be targeted though, they're developing along the reaper plan just fine.


The krogan were very, very smart before they nuked themselves (and the blood rage became widespread as an evolution tactic) I think they even discovered nuclear power before the asari.

The quarians are also implied to be very similar to humans so that may be why Harbinger would have been interested in them at one point.


Wait, really?  I had no idea the krogan were actually technologically advanced, I figured they were just savages back before the salarians swooped in.  That definitely makes things more interesting.

. Not sure how advanced they were, but they were probably at least to our level (irl). It was their violent, reckless, and short sighted nature that did them in.


Well they where advanced enough to destroy them selves with nukes weren't they? 
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I thought Soverign or somethign mentioned that about the Geth.


Well, Saren wanted to use Sovereign's supreme power to control the geth so he could then put the rest of the galactic community in its place in Revelation.

It kind of worked. Sovereign saw them all as puppets, chess pieces.

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Andaius20 wrote...

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Well I think they would have been fine if they didn't start tinkering and tinkering to make them more efficient. ^_^


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An interesting idea. What if the Reapers were partially responsible for the geth gaining sentience? Wouldn't be too far-fetched, considering they controlled the Rachni.


I thought Soverign or somethign mentioned that about the Geth.


Sovereign got involved with the geth when he realized that they were evolving along their own path, and subsequently, wouldn't be vulnerable to the Citadel/mass relay trap the next time the reapers showed up.  That's how the heretics came to be, some geth wanted to keep evolving on their own, while others took the bait.  Not a complete success for Sovereign, but he did weaken the geth.

Prior to that, there's no reason to get involved.  The quarians were evolving along the mass relays just like every other society in the last 37 million years.  The keepers activate the switch, the reapers take the Citadel, and the quarians are dead in no time.  Getting involved with their every day life just wouldn't be necessary.

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The funniest part about krogan history is that krogans with the blood rage trait were actually put in jail before they nuked themselves back to the stone-age

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Well they where advanced enough to destroy them selves with nukes weren't they? 


[Okeer]I like that part. It has weight.[/Okeer]

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Keelah Se'lai!

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You also probably run into krogan scientists more than probably any other alien (which is ironic considering what Wrex said in Mass Effect) =P

They aren't stupid. They just love to fight more than anything else.

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Wait, really?  I had no idea the krogan were actually technologically advanced, I figured they were just savages back before the salarians swooped in.  That definitely makes things more interesting.

. Not sure how advanced they were, but they were probably at least to our level (irl). It was their violent, reckless, and short sighted nature that did them in.


So, without alien interference, I'm seeing the options being either the krogans wipe themselves out with nukes/whatever, or they eventually gain sapience themselves, and the post Rachni Wars problems happen later, just on their own.  Not as interesting as I thought :(

Though if the krogan had gained sapience right after the current races had just been reaped, that's 50k years on the galactic scale to grow.  Scary :?

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Phil725 wrote...

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Wait, really?  I had no idea the krogan were actually technologically advanced, I figured they were just savages back before the salarians swooped in.  That definitely makes things more interesting.

. Not sure how advanced they were, but they were probably at least to our level (irl). It was their violent, reckless, and short sighted nature that did them in.


So, without alien interference, I'm seeing the options being either the krogans wipe themselves out with nukes/whatever, or they eventually gain sapience themselves, and the post Rachni Wars problems happen later, just on their own.  Not as interesting as I thought :(

Though if the krogan had gained sapience right after the current races had just been reaped, that's 50k years on the galactic scale to grow.  Scary :?

also only 50 lifetimes for an asari.  But I miss my Tali.  How do you think they keep their suits powered all the time, never get to see any recharging stations :)

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Same way Shepard does, off camera!

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Poor attempt at on-topicness but still. Do they just plug in or is it a replaceable fuel cell?

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also only 50 lifetimes for an asari.  But I miss my Tali.  How do you think they keep their suits powered all the time, never get to see any recharging stations :)


*Shrugs* The same way Shepard's armor is powered.

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also only 50 lifetimes for an asari.  But I miss my Tali.  How do you think they keep their suits powered all the time, never get to see any recharging stations :)


*Shrugs* The same way Shepard's armor is powered.

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Mass effect fields REQUIRE power, they do not produce it.  A fusion cell, or bottle would do it but then a lucky hit and the quarian goes up like a heavy mech.

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also only 50 lifetimes for an asari.  But I miss my Tali.  How do you think they keep their suits powered all the time, never get to see any recharging stations :)


I hate to play the mystery, future tech card, but its the likely explanation here.  They probably have some ridiculously efficient power systems in the ME universe.  I could see something that keeps the suits powered for years, maybe for the life of the suit, being feasible personally.

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Poor attempt at on-topicness but still. Do they just plug in or is it a replaceable fuel cell?


Probably the second option.

Would be easier when they're out in the field to just replace the power cell, instead of running around looking for the nearest wall socket.

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Too many unknowns. Bioware created the race and situation. They should have put some thought into it and actually provided some data.

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Suits really shouldn't require that much power. Maybe solar cells or feeds off the wearer.

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Too many unknowns. Bioware created the race and situation. They should have put some thought into it and actually provided some data.


My guess is that they're giving us the basics about everything in the games, and then they're fleashing it all out in the books.

Easier for the writers that way and BW can make more money at the same time.

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also only 50 lifetimes for an asari.  But I miss my Tali.  How do you think they keep their suits powered all the time, never get to see any recharging stations :)


I hate to play the mystery, future tech card, but its the likely explanation here.  They probably have some ridiculously efficient power systems in the ME universe.  I could see something that keeps the suits powered for years, maybe for the life of the suit, being feasible personally.

Not really a mystery card.  Micromini cold fusion plant would do it safely or as I mentioned before a regenerative feedback from walking or toe bouncing to recharge.  Could also use some form a electromagnetic field induction coils to recharge super efficient battery packs.

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Too many unknowns. Bioware created the race and situation. They should have put some thought into it and actually provided some data.


I can understand why they didn't, every piece of info they give out opens them up to 10 different ways of being shot down.  And when they're striving for a more hard sci-fi feeling, that's not what they want.  Technology has advanced ridiculous amounts over the last few decades, how much is it going to advance over the next 200 years, with added alien races to further spur advancement?  How do you distinguish sci-fi crap from realistic achievements that we just don't currently have the imagination for?  And with this all being stuff that is superfluous to the game play and story itself, its a lot more convenient to just ignore it for game purposes.

That said, I would love to see the entire Mass Effect universe fleshed out completely, down to the smallest details.  Not that that would necessarily appeal to a massive amount of people. :?

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It runs off badassium.

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mrsph wrote...

It runs off badassium.


Best explanation I've heard all night.

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It runs off badassium.


Good enough for me!

Also I just found out that Legion is voiced by D.C. Douglas, AKA Albert Wesker, AKA COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION.  Jawsome.

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Phil725 wrote...

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Too many unknowns. Bioware created the race and situation. They should have put some thought into it and actually provided some data.


I can understand why they didn't, every piece of info they give out opens them up to 10 different ways of being shot down.  And when they're striving for a more hard sci-fi feeling, that's not what they want.  Technology has advanced ridiculous amounts over the last few decades, how much is it going to advance over the next 200 years, with added alien races to further spur advancement?  How do you distinguish sci-fi crap from realistic achievements that we just don't currently have the imagination for?  And with this all being stuff that is superfluous to the game play and story itself, its a lot more convenient to just ignore it for game purposes.

That said, I would love to see the entire Mass Effect universe fleshed out completely, down to the smallest details.  Not that that would necessarily appeal to a massive amount of people. :?

But science fiction is based on the extrapolation of known sciences.  Just saying they use a very efficient battery is not too far fetched and implies they could swap them out if needed.  As it stands, ME is sciFantasy.
The quarian suits need to function, need power.  Rebreathers, waste handling, their visors are shown to use power.  So a power source is required.