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[kraidy1117]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

For a species of people that get sick easily. They are surprisingly resilient to bullets.

Grunt says they are not soft like humans, Salarians and Asari.

This is including the suits.

I don't think so, I think Grunt is talking about Quarian skin. That's me tho.

[Phil725]

Collider wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I love the idea of a scar in concept - but it seems unlikely that one can develop with the Quarian surviving.

That's silly.

Tali has endured several gunshot wounds. Reeger took a bullet and lived. Contrary to what most people think, a suit breach, wound, or kiss aren't going to kill most quarians. Is there are higher risk of infection or reaction? YES. But provided they get enough antibiotics, their immuno implants aren't damaged, and they damage isn't catastrophic, they'll be fine.

Mostly because omnigel IIRC heals tissue is why it seems implausible to me. 

I've thought of that in the past, although that was more in regards to Shep/Garrus.  The technology for complete riddance of scars seems to be around in the ME universe.

[Collider]

Phil725 wrote...

Collider wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I love the idea of a scar in concept - but it seems unlikely that one can develop with the Quarian surviving.

That's silly.

Tali has endured several gunshot wounds. Reeger took a bullet and lived. Contrary to what most people think, a suit breach, wound, or kiss aren't going to kill most quarians. Is there are higher risk of infection or reaction? YES. But provided they get enough antibiotics, their immuno implants aren't damaged, and they damage isn't catastrophic, they'll be fine.

Mostly because omnigel IIRC heals tissue is why it seems implausible to me. 

I've thought of that in the past, although that was more in regards to Shep/Garrus.  The technology for complete riddance of scars seems to be around in the ME universe.

pretty close, yea. Kind of strange then, that Garrus' scars are made such a big deal about in-game. I'd definitely have my Shepard shell out cash to fix his buddy's face.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I always thought of it as a backhanded compliment, saying that Quarians are tough.

[Collider]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Collider wrote...
Assumption.

Imo, it isn't. He's going off every day, standard, if I met a person from this race settings. Not all humans wear armour, but all quarians wear suits and all turians are tanks.

We don't know either way. He could be talking about the suit, or he could be talking suitless.

[Phil725]

Collider wrote...

Runescapeguy9 wrote...
*snip*
]This is including the suits.

Assumption.

Suits or bone density are the only two logical conclusions that can be made from the conversation really.  Neither one would make them particularly resistant to bullets.  I think they're just as vulnerable as any random human if they have a suit breach, but that said, its hardly a death sentence for a human to get shot.

[Lividity Jones]

Collider wrote...

We don't know either way. He could be talking about the suit, or he could be talking suitless.

Great! Let's make things even more vague so we can all sit around in a circle-jerk about what makes more sense from a design perspective!

[kraidy1117]

Phil725 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Runescapeguy9 wrote...
*snip*
]This is including the suits.

Assumption.

Suits or bone density are the only two logical conclusions that can be made from the conversation really.  Neither one would make them particularly resistant to bullets.  I think they're just as vulnerable as any random human if they have a suit breach, but that said, its hardly a death sentence for a human to get shot.

I was hit in the face twice by a missle and I was still alive LOL.

[Collider]

Lividity Jones wrote...

Collider wrote...

We don't know either way. He could be talking about the suit, or he could be talking suitless.

Great! Let's make things even more vague so we can all sit around in a circle-jerk about what makes more sense from a design perspective!

[Collider]

mrsph wrote...

Fixing Shepard's scars felt more like a gameplay mechanic.

Devs: Yeah, we know some of you won't like this. So we stuck this huge resource sink to remove them for you.

I thought the renegade scar thing was terrible. Belongs in Star Wars, not Mass Effect imo.

[Pacifien]

Only vague idea of what the discussion happens to be here. Physical qualities of a quarian? Look of her face sealed behind a mask for half of her life so far? I've wondered about quarian cybernetic enhancements, if those are something that are added in conjunction with their first suit. Kind of suspect the cybernetics were something quarians did before the migration, to help them acclimate faster to new worlds. Might even be the reason for the prejudice against them. Just speculating here, though.

Also think Grunt's comment has nothing to do with the suits that the quarians are wearing. He also says that you rarely see Turians out of their armor, but I imagine it takes more than working the blade a bit to sever their spine with the armor on. Slowly developing an idea of quarians having denser muscles, greater weight, and thicker skin that humans. Don't see why not.

[abatista]

Collider wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Collider wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I love the idea of a scar in concept - but it seems unlikely that one can develop with the Quarian surviving.

That's silly.

Tali has endured several gunshot wounds. Reeger took a bullet and lived. Contrary to what most people think, a suit breach, wound, or kiss aren't going to kill most quarians. Is there are higher risk of infection or reaction? YES. But provided they get enough antibiotics, their immuno implants aren't damaged, and they damage isn't catastrophic, they'll be fine.

Mostly because omnigel IIRC heals tissue is why it seems implausible to me. 

I've thought of that in the past, although that was more in regards to Shep/Garrus.  The technology for complete riddance of scars seems to be around in the ME universe.

pretty close, yea. Kind of strange then, that Garrus' scars are made such a big deal about in-game. I'd definitely have my Shepard shell out cash to fix his buddy's face.

My guess is that Garrus' face is scarred because it consists of plates, which would not heal like regular skin.  It might regenerate over time, but omnigel wouldnt speed up the process.

[Water Dumple]

Collider wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Seth Burns wrote...

I just think it's the exciting part is imagining yourself and entering what you think she looks like. What if Bioware made her ugly? I know they wouldn't do that, but maybe some people wouldn't want her to have green scaly skin with glow in the dark eyes and 3 ears.

Then that is their own problem. You're not supposed to romance a person for what they look like. You are supposed to connect with the person themself. THAT is the theme of the romance.

Agreed, and I would be lying if I didn't say that some of my desire to see the face was to spite the people that imagine their own fake view of perfection

I definitely hope they don't go with super model beautiful. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Tali having a kind of tired or world weary face. She's been through a lot. I noticed Garrus looked a little sickly when we met him in ME2.

Agreed; that's one reason I like the art of her face I posted several pages back (got reposted if you missed it). It's not repulsively ugly, but certainly not very clean or attractive. I'm fine with her looking almost exactly the same as a young human rather than like an alien, but she should have some deformities like in that fanart.

[Collider]

My guess is that Garrus' face is scarred because it consists of plates, which would not heal like regular skin. It might regenerate over time, but omnigel wouldnt speed up the process.

Hmm, interesting. That could indeed be why omnigel wouldn't work for it.

[Collider]

Water Dumple wrote...

Collider wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Seth Burns wrote...

I just think it's the exciting part is imagining yourself and entering what you think she looks like. What if Bioware made her ugly? I know they wouldn't do that, but maybe some people wouldn't want her to have green scaly skin with glow in the dark eyes and 3 ears.

Then that is their own problem. You're not supposed to romance a person for what they look like. You are supposed to connect with the person themself. THAT is the theme of the romance.

Agreed, and I would be lying if I didn't say that some of my desire to see the face was to spite the people that imagine their own fake view of perfection

I definitely hope they don't go with super model beautiful. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Tali having a kind of tired or world weary face. She's been through a lot. I noticed Garrus looked a little sickly when we met him in ME2.

Agreed; that's one reason I like the art of her face I posted several pages back (got reposted if you missed it). It's not repulsively ugly, but certainly not very clean or attractive. I'm fine with her looking almost exactly the same as a young human rather than like an alien, but she should have some deformities like in that fanart.

Would you mind reposting it? That description reminds me of a piece of fanart that I like.

[Pacifien]

Phil725 wrote...
Suits or bone density are the only two logical conclusions that can be made from the conversation really.  Neither one would make them particularly resistant to bullets.  I think they're just as vulnerable as any random human if they have a suit breach, but that said, its hardly a death sentence for a human to get shot.

Grunt wasn't talking about resistance to bullets, though. He was talking about what it takes to sever the spine. Very easy for a krogan to sever the spine of a human, asari, or salarian. Need to work the blade with a turian. Quarians are in between.

[Water Dumple]

Collider wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...
Agreed; that's one reason I like the art of her face I posted several pages back (got reposted if you missed it). It's not repulsively ugly, but certainly not very clean or attractive. I'm fine with her looking almost exactly the same as a young human rather than like an alien, but she should have some deformities like in that fanart.

Would you mind reposting it? That description reminds me of a piece of fanart that I like.

It's this one:

Modifié par Water Dumple, 02 août 2010 - 02:14 .

[one man]

in me 2 can u go above lv30 at all?

[Phil725]

Pacifien wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
Suits or bone density are the only two logical conclusions that can be made from the conversation really.  Neither one would make them particularly resistant to bullets.  I think they're just as vulnerable as any random human if they have a suit breach, but that said, its hardly a death sentence for a human to get shot.

Grunt wasn't talking about resistance to bullets, though. He was talking about what it takes to sever the spine. Very easy for a krogan to sever the spine of a human, asari, or salarian. Need to work the blade with a turian. Quarians are in between.

Yeah, the Grunt line was brought up in support of bullet resistance, which doesn't make much sense.

[kraidy1117]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

I am of the opinion that Tali is a tragic character (not to the degree of Jack, Thane, and Samara though) the poor girl has been through a lot for someone her age

Agreed.

mrsph wrote...
and is likely not going to take that suit off in her lifetime.

We part thinking here. Call me an optimist.

Being a optimist won't get you far.

[Water Dumple]

mrsph wrote...

I am of the opinion that Tali is a tragic character (not to the degree of Jack, Thane, and Samara though) the poor girl has been through a lot for someone her age and is likely not going to take that suit off in her lifetime.

Seemed that way to me throughout most of ME1 and ME2. Technically, there are problems with the romance, but there's a lot of preparation leading up to it (and some epic advice from Mordin ). That's largely why I think they only kiss, and don't go any further. Also, hospitalizing a squadmate right before a suicide mission isn't a good plan.