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[Collider]

I think there would be a sort of poetry to the Quarians reclaiming their homeworld but only their children getting to live their suitless. That would include Tali - and I like the idea of Shepard being with her all the same despite the obstacles.

[RiptideX1090]

Collider wrote...

I think there would be a sort of poetry to the Quarians reclaiming their homeworld but only their children getting to live their suitless. That would include Tali - and I like the idea of Shepard being with her all the same despite the obstacles.

Part of me wants to see Tali and the quarians immediately cured on the first day with immune systems that could survive atomic fire.

Another part of me doesn't want the quarians losing the tragedy associated with them...

I don't konw what to do...

[Collider]

It's far easier and convenient just to use human skeletons. Obviously if they're exactly the same as the ones used in other instances, in which we know for certain the victims are human, then the skeletons used on the quarian rescue mission aren't completely accurate.

[Pacifien]

Mozer121 wrote...
It's a time issue. Not money. Developers take the quick way where ever they can.

Time=Money in many cases.

Anyway, I believe this topic has actually overrun its course. I want to argue with Riptide about antibiotics.

[RiptideX1090]

Pacifien wrote...

Mozer121 wrote...
It's a time issue. Not money. Developers take the quick way where ever they can.

Time=Money in many cases.

Anyway, I believe this topic has actually overrun its course. I want to argue with Riptide about antibiotics.

No.

You don't.

YOU REALLY don't.

[Collider]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I think there would be a sort of poetry to the Quarians reclaiming their homeworld but only their children getting to live their suitless. That would include Tali - and I like the idea of Shepard being with her all the same despite the obstacles.

Part of me wants to see Tali and the quarians immediately cured on the first day with immune systems that could survive atomic fire.

Another part of me doesn't want the quarians losing the tragedy associated with them...

I don't konw what to do...

With me, I prefer the latter. The former seems too...positive. Too fairy tale. It would be a remarkable shift. The crux of the Quarian race concept is that they are cursed and tragic.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Quarians should have multiple canons to them: artistically tragic, cliche happy story, and extreme fanservice.

[Water Dumple]

mrsph wrote...

Hell, the female quarians are just using a slightly modified version of Tali's old model.

Isn't it almost exactly the same except for a different texture and better geometry?

[nickFury]

mrsph wrote...

I am of the opinion that Tali is a tragic character (not to the degree of Jack, Thane, and Samara though) the poor girl has been through a lot for someone her age and is likely not going to take that suit off in her lifetime.

I think


i've said it before but this is just silly, no offense.

[Collider]

My favorite race are the Turians.

[Pacifien]

RiptideX1090 wrote...
No.

You don't.

YOU REALLY don't.

Really? I thought you were the resident biologist. Ah well.

[Mozer121]

Collider wrote...

It's far easier and convenient just to use human skeletons. Obviously if they're exactly the same as the ones used in other instances, in which we know for certain the victims are human, then the skeletons used on the quarian rescue mission aren't completely accurate.

That's exactly what I was saying. The skeletons aren't 100% accurate, no. But they wouldn't use them if they weren't 90% accurate.

Ok. Now I'm done with this topic. Moving on.

[RiptideX1090]

Collider wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I think there would be a sort of poetry to the Quarians reclaiming their homeworld but only their children getting to live their suitless. That would include Tali - and I like the idea of Shepard being with her all the same despite the obstacles.

Part of me wants to see Tali and the quarians immediately cured on the first day with immune systems that could survive atomic fire.

Another part of me doesn't want the quarians losing the tragedy associated with them...

I don't konw what to do...

With me, I prefer the latter. The former seems too...positive. Too fairy tale. It would be a remarkable shift. The crux of the Quarian race concept is that they are cursed and tragic.

I could deal with it, but only if it's VERY difficult to obtain. Like, you have to make a VERY specific series of choices.

Tali and Legion alive and Lyal. Mordin alive and Loyal. Geth and Quarians at peace. Geth convinced to not upload to Reaper and to remain behind and helf quarians rebuild. Council saved. Collector Base Saved. Geth Data given to Tali. Tali not exiled.

[RiptideX1090]

Pacifien wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
No.

You don't.

YOU REALLY don't.

Really? I thought you were the resident biologist. Ah well.

I am.

But since nobody ever listens to me, and because I've argued about it dozens of times, I simply don't want to anymore...

[Water Dumple]

The Quarians transitioning out of their suits would probably take several generations, with each one spending more time outside suits/with fewer suit life support functions needed--Genetically growing tougher as time goes on. This is of course assuming that the Geth give Rannoch back to them/they go to war and reclaim it.

[Collider]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I think there would be a sort of poetry to the Quarians reclaiming their homeworld but only their children getting to live their suitless. That would include Tali - and I like the idea of Shepard being with her all the same despite the obstacles.

Part of me wants to see Tali and the quarians immediately cured on the first day with immune systems that could survive atomic fire.

Another part of me doesn't want the quarians losing the tragedy associated with them...

I don't konw what to do...

With me, I prefer the latter. The former seems too...positive. Too fairy tale. It would be a remarkable shift. The crux of the Quarian race concept is that they are cursed and tragic.

I could deal with it, but only if it's VERY difficult to obtain. Like, you have to make a VERY specific series of choices.

Tali and Legion alive and Lyal. Mordin alive and Loyal. Geth and Quarians at peace. Geth convinced to not upload to Reaper and to remain behind and helf quarians rebuild. Council saved. Collector Base Saved. Geth Data given to Tali. Tali not exiled.

True, if they are going to do it in any capacity, it should be very conditional. I still prefer some tragedy though. I think it would be more appropriate for the Quarians, that they get their homeworld back but the reclaimers themselves cannot reap all of the benefits.

[Collider]

mrsph wrote...

Tali herself is probably pretty bitter about having to spend her life in that suit. She is just good at hiding it until her loyalty mission just causes her to lose it on the Alarei.

I agree. Part of her charcter evolution, similarly, in ME2 was that she became bitter and more cynical. Part of the idealism that was part of ME1 had dissolved.

[nickFury]

mrsph wrote...

nickFury wrote...
Im pretty sure she already took it off once at least

A more permenant sense.

ah fair enough I suppose, but not If shep has any say.

Ignore my previous post.

[Phil725]

Water Dumple wrote...

The Quarians transitioning out of their suits would probably take several generations, with each one spending more time outside suits/with fewer suit life support functions needed--Genetically growing tougher as time goes on. This is of course assuming that the Geth give Rannoch back to them/they go to war and reclaim it.

Tali mentions 60 years on the Alerei.  Its an educated guess at best though, and I could see it being a lot less personally, given the minor reaction that Tali has to Shep, and the famed adaptability of the quarian immune systems.  Still, 60 years is the set figure for what I assume is society wide complete non necessity for suits.  I assume individuals who are more persistent in adjusting, or go through more gene therapy or whatever will get their long before that as well.

[Mozer121]

Water Dumple wrote...

The Quarians transitioning out of their suits would probably take several generations, with each one spending more time outside suits/with fewer suit life support functions needed--Genetically growing tougher as time goes on. This is of course assuming that the Geth give Rannoch back to them/they go to war and reclaim it

Something has always puzzled me. Geth drove them from Rannoch as well as their colonies. Flotilla's sterille environment ruined their immune system's adaptability as quoted by Tali. Surely they had to know that would happen living on ships for so many gernerations. Why didn't they simply form other colonies in non-Geth controlled space as soon as they were driven from their worlds?

Modifié par Mozer121, 02 août 2010 - 02:52 .

[abatista]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I think there would be a sort of poetry to the Quarians reclaiming their homeworld but only their children getting to live their suitless. That would include Tali - and I like the idea of Shepard being with her all the same despite the obstacles.

Part of me wants to see Tali and the quarians immediately cured on the first day with immune systems that could survive atomic fire.

Another part of me doesn't want the quarians losing the tragedy associated with them...

I don't konw what to do...

Perhaps a middle ground then.  The quarians wouldnt be able to leave their suits at first, but over time, would re-adapt to the Rannoch environment.  The game does cover this - If the quarians were to return to Rannoch immediately, they could leave their suits behind after about 60 years.