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[Ormagodenator]

RedTracer7 wrote...

Ormagodenator wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Legion's loyalty mission would have worked a lot better if it functioned like Mordin's (two paragon and two renegade choices)

I just wish you could actually sneak past the geth,
instead of tripping the alarm in every room you go in

Do you know how hard it is to avoid large glowing tiles on the floor?

Quite hard, apparently....

the only one I have a problem with,
is the one that's blocking the door

EDIT: TOP POSTE!

Modifié par Ormagodenator, 02 août 2010 - 05:08 .

[SpatFieya]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Runescapeguy9 wrote...
<snip>

I shall call this one "Egyptian Tali."

Wouldn't it be something if a picture like that was inscribed in the pyramids. 

Quarians built the pyramids!

[NuclearBuddha]

PKchu wrote...
Anyone else...I was kind of annoyed by this revelation:

Some of the decisions aren't based off the characters, but pure plot necessity. I know why they did it, but it feels oddly artificial and out of character. I think Tali would've supported saving the council always - when I had Garrus and Tali, she was the "save the humans" one.

Uh... Tali has more reason than most to figure the Council can go save themselves.

Not saying I agree, but there it is.

[Pacifien]

Azint wrote...
I connected the idea as to why Legion was aboard the derelict Reaper in the first place. Legion claimed that he was there to understand the virus the heretics have because there was a connection to the Reapers. I thought that when Sovereign called for them in the first place, the first geth to respond were the ones to become the first heretics. This is their indoctrination, if you will.

Legion went to the derelict Reaper because somehow the Geth learned that 1) the Heretics were writing a virus and they were storing this virus on a quantum storage device that Sovereign provided. I actually think once the Heretics joined with Sovereign, the Reaper did massive modification of their code (all the more reason not to reintegrate them into the Geth), and had possibly considered the virus project to convert all the Geth. For whatever reason*cough*retcon*cough*, he dumped that idea and went with Saren's Conduit plan.

Anyway, Legion does say that Sovereign signaled the Geth with an offer. The Heretics accepted.

Modifié par Pacifien, 02 août 2010 - 05:08 .

[FsDxRAGE]

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel with my FF.

Now I need to crack down to finish it

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Definitely, Azint.



One could argue Anderson is a great leader but only in particular spheres - he sucks as a politician.

[Kikaimegami]

SU37 wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Oh oh, did I weird you out?

The thought of someone doing that to a geth is odd, yes.

*does a victory lap around the thread*

[Azint]

PKchu wrote...

Anyone else...I was kind of annoyed by this revelation:

Some of the decisions aren't based off the characters, but pure plot necessity. I know why they did it, but it feels oddly artificial and out of character. I think Tali would've supported saving the council always - when I had Garrus and Tali, she was the "save the humans" one.

That's strange.

Each squadmate is set on a paragon/renegade scale, the one higher or lower on the scale would give the appropriate response so that Shepard would get two opinions supporting conflicting options. What makes it strange is that Garrus is more renegade than Tali, in fact Garrus is the most renegade character in the first game short of Wrex.

Paragon/ Renegade Scale of Mass Effect Squadmates
Paragon
- Liara
- Kaiden
- Tali
- Ashley
- Garrus
- Wrex
Renegade

Modifié par Azint, 02 août 2010 - 05:11 .

[RedTracer7]

PKchu wrote...

Anyone else...I was kind of annoyed by this revelation:

Some of the decisions aren't based off the characters, but pure plot necessity. I know why they did it, but it feels oddly artificial and out of character. I think Tali would've supported saving the council always - when I had Garrus and Tali, she was the "save the humans" one.

Odd that you brought this up.  I just finished an ME1 playthough.  And I have to agree.  In my playthough, when Shepard tells his squad to "make sure Saren is dead", Tali was the one who pumped a bullet into his brain.  Necessary, I guess.  But I found it odd, what with my other squad member not taking the pleasure.

Wrex let the quarian girl cap Saren in the head. 

[SpatFieya]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel with my FF.
Now I need to crack down to finish it

Go forth and conquer! 

[NuclearBuddha]

RedTracer7 wrote...
Wrex let the quarian girl cap Saren in the head. 

He thought it would build character.

[NCLanceman]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Tali is more of a follower. It's part of the daddy issue, like Rip sorta said.

Does it always have to be the daddy issue? Doesn't Tali have any other influences on her life? 

Here's an idea: from all indications, she's wanted to be an engineer since foreverety ever. Engineers are at best in command of an engineering staff on shipboard or scientific problems, much like she was on Freedom's Progress. That's her niche, she likes it, and is damn good at it (she isn't Chief Engineer of the Normandy for nothing). Meanwhile, the only reason she was slated with direct military command on Freedom's Progress is more or less her status as a straight up Galactic War Hero, but it's simply not one of her areas of expertise.

[FatherNestor]

Just poppin' for a moment.

I'm out for a week.

Bye, guys. Don't let thread fall apart.

[FsDxRAGE]

SpatFieya wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel with my FF.
Now I need to crack down to finish it

Go forth and conquer! 

the light is just a pinprick at most though.
71,014 words in
*facepalm*
"But the priiize."

[Kikaimegami]

RedTracer7 wrote...

Odd that you brought this up.  I just finished an ME1 playthough.  And I have to agree.  In my playthough, when Shepard tells his squad to "make sure Saren is dead", Tali was the one who pumped a bullet into his brain.  Necessary, I guess.  But I found it odd, what with my other squad member not taking the pleasure.

Wrex let the quarian girl cap Saren in the head. 

This just gave me a mental image of this happening, then Wrex saying "Heh, I like her!"

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

PKchu wrote...
Anyone else...I was kind of annoyed by this revelation:

Some of the decisions aren't based off the characters, but pure plot necessity. I know why they did it, but it feels oddly artificial and out of character. I think Tali would've supported saving the council always - when I had Garrus and Tali, she was the "save the humans" one.

Uh... Tali has more reason than most to figure the Council can go save themselves.

Not saying I agree, but there it is.

I can see why she could say that. But...I dunno, her personality doesn't...

Eh. You make a good point. I think overall though she would hold the whole "dying as military for civilians and leaders, etc." over personal disputes.

[Su37]

RedTracer7 wrote...

Odd that you brought this up.  I just finished an ME1 playthough.  And I have to agree.  In my playthough, when Shepard tells his squad to "make sure Saren is dead", Tali was the one who pumped a bullet into his brain.  Necessary, I guess.  But I found it odd, what with my other squad member not taking the pleasure.

Wrex let the quarian girl cap Saren in the head. 

Every time I had Tali and Wrex with me, Wrex did it.
The only time that Tali did is when I had Liara with me.

[Pacifien]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

RedTracer7 wrote...
Wrex let the quarian girl cap Saren in the head. 

He thought it would build character.

He wanted to keep Saren's head all pristine as a trophy, but Tali had to go put a bullet in it.

[SpaceBuscuit]

PKchu wrote...

Definitely, Azint.

One could argue Anderson is a great leader but only in particular spheres - he sucks as a politician.

But wasn't that kinda the point? Shepard chose him precisely because he wasn't a politician, and so could approach council issues from a different perspective.

You can argue that Tali isn't a good leader, but to me, it says more about those following her. That they weren't able to respect her just because she was too nice or awkward, regardless of the value of her instructions.

[Water Dumple]

RedTracer7 wrote...

PKchu wrote...

Anyone else...I was kind of annoyed by this revelation:

Some of the decisions aren't based off the characters, but pure plot necessity. I know why they did it, but it feels oddly artificial and out of character. I think Tali would've supported saving the council always - when I had Garrus and Tali, she was the "save the humans" one.

Odd that you brought this up.  I just finished an ME1 playthough.  And I have to agree.  In my playthough, when Shepard tells his squad to "make sure Saren is dead", Tali was the one who pumped a bullet into his brain.  Necessary, I guess.  But I found it odd, what with my other squad member not taking the pleasure.

Wrex let the quarian girl cap Saren in the head. 

When I did that, Wrex blew his head off like nobody's business.

Probably uses a 50% chance for that one, no alignment factors.

[NuclearBuddha]

NCLanceman wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Tali is more of a follower. It's part of the daddy issue, like Rip sorta said.

Does it always have to be the daddy issue? Doesn't Tali have any other influences on her life? 

Here's an idea: from all indications, she's wanted to be an engineer since foreverety ever. Engineers are at best in command of an engineering staff on shipboard or scientific problems, much like she was on Freedom's Progress. That's her niche, she likes it, and is damn good at it (she isn't Chief Engineer of the Normandy for nothing). Meanwhile, the only reason she was slated with direct military command on Freedom's Progress is more or less her status as a straight up Galactic War Hero, but it's simply not one of her areas of expertise.

I was saying it more as a joke.  But it's one of those jokes that's funny because it's true.

Saying she's a good leader but only of other engineers is kinda pointless.  There aren't that many teams of engineers poised to alter the face of the galaxy that need leading.

[FsDxRAGE]

Pacifien wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

RedTracer7 wrote...
Wrex let the quarian girl cap Saren in the head. 

He thought it would build character.

He wanted to keep Saren's head all pristine as a trophy, but Tali had to go put a bullet in it.

[RiptideX1090]

Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

PKchu wrote...

I really liked Jacob's loyalty mission more than Jacob.

Actually, I think it may have been my favorite or second favorite. I was like, "Here you go dude, enjoy suicide."

I love how Tali agrees with leaving Ronald to get torn apart by his crew.

Really? I've never tried the middle option. It was always arrest or imposed suicide that I forced on him.

Does the third squadmate actually give an opinion?

"The crazy ones, you don't know what they'll do to me!"

Tali lowers her pistol, watching the advancing hunters.

"I think we have a pretty good idea."

Dat renegade quarian... <3<3<3

[Pacifien]

Azint wrote...
Paragon/ Renegade Scale of Mass Effect Squadmates
Paragon
- Liara
- Kaiden
- Tali
- Ashley
- Garrus
- Wrex
Renegade

Kaidan actually goes before Liara on that scale. There was something I found quite amusing about watching the asari archeologist putting a bullet through Saren's brain. Girl was cold even back then, should have been no surprise how she ended up two years later.

[Kikaimegami]

SpaceBuscuit wrote...

PKchu wrote...

Definitely, Azint.

One could argue Anderson is a great leader but only in particular spheres - he sucks as a politician.

But wasn't that kinda the point? Shepard chose him precisely because he wasn't a politician, and so could approach council issues from a different perspective.

You can argue that Tali isn't a good leader, but to me, it says more about those following her. That they weren't able to respect her just because she was too nice or awkward, regardless of the value of her instructions.

It's implied by Prazza's dialogue that the reason why they can't respect her is.. because her father is an Admiral.

What.