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[Collider]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...
Also, in ME1/ME2 it looks like the dialogue is much more animated. You hug people and punch them and stuff, whereas Dragon Age looks more like Knights of the Old Republic (which is by now quite old)--Two generally emotionless faces with thousand-year stares looking at each other. Just an observation based on what I've seen so far, but I can't say anything definite until I try it out.

ME2 is miles above ME1 in the conversation stage direction department.  A lot of times in ME1 it's "Here's one head.  Now here's the other head."  There's a lot more camera work and blocking in ME2 overall.

this.

tawp

Modifié par Collider, 02 août 2010 - 06:41 .

[Azint]

Water Dumple wrote...

Frankly, that's a major reason why I still haven't installed Dragon Age but am going through Mass Effect 2 a third time.

Also, in ME1/ME2 it looks like the dialogue is much more animated. You hug people and punch them and stuff, whereas Dragon Age looks more like Knights of the Old Republic (which is by now quite old)--Two generally emotionless faces with thousand-year stares looking at each other. Just an observation based on what I've seen so far, but I can't say anything definite until I try it out.

I assure you, Dragon Age has very solid writing, worth experiencing.

And that's the price of pushing the bar; standards are raised. Not all games will have full-voice acting, and it should be expected and understood what sort of effort there is to do it.

[RedTracer7]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

RedTracer7 wrote...

NCLanceman wrote...
Though, I like to think both Mordin Solus and Helen Chakwas are contributing writers from time to time.

And now a Featured Article from our favorite author "OneHornedWonder":

Quarian and Human Relations: An Extended Field Study.

So what's Dr. Chakwas pseudonym?  Dr. Hacksaw?

I was thinking more of: Dr. Serrice

(Serrice Iced Brandy )

[NuclearBuddha]

And Anderson? I like to think he's of the same opinion I think Han'Gerrel would have.



"Go make it an adventure, you crazy kids."

[NCLanceman]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

So what's Dr. Chakwas pseudonym?  Dr. Hacksaw?

There are horrible things you can do with 'Chakwas'. If I didn't pick a first name for her I heard in some fanfiction somewhere, I don't even wanna think about what I would've put there.

Modifié par NCLanceman, 02 août 2010 - 06:42 .

[SpaceBuscuit]

Water Dumple wrote...

SpaceBuscuit wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Never thought Shepard wasn't fleshed out enough, but now that you mention it...it IS always Shepard asking how folks are doing, and not the other way around.

At least he has a voice. My Dragon Age character really bugged me for that fact, even though I loved the game.

Frankly, that's a major reason why I still haven't installed Dragon Age but am going through Mass Effect 2 a third time.

Also, in ME1/ME2 it looks like the dialogue is much more animated. You hug people and punch them and stuff, whereas Dragon Age looks more like Knights of the Old Republic (which is by now quite old)--Two generally emotionless faces with thousand-year stares looking at each other. Just an observation based on what I've seen so far, but I can't say anything definite until I try it out.

Dragon Age is enjoyable, especially for RPG nuts, and is a hell of a lot longer than the ME games. But I have never played a game with the cinematic quality and emotional involvement of the ME games. The story and the characters just stay with you.

[Azint]

RedTracer7 wrote...

I was thinking more of: Dr. Serrice

(Serrice Iced Brandy )

Do not explain the joke.

[cannedcream]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...
Also, in ME1/ME2 it looks like the dialogue is much more animated. You hug people and punch them and stuff, whereas Dragon Age looks more like Knights of the Old Republic (which is by now quite old)--Two generally emotionless faces with thousand-year stares looking at each other. Just an observation based on what I've seen so far, but I can't say anything definite until I try it out.

ME2 is miles above ME1 in the conversation stage direction department.  A lot of times in ME1 it's "Here's one head.  Now here's the other head."  There's a lot more camera work and blocking in ME2 overall.

As a person who spent 4 years studying video production, I can really appreciate the effort gone into the cinematography this time around.
Made ME1 painfully dull at time with nothing but the talking heads.

[Collider]

SpaceBuscuit wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

SpaceBuscuit wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Never thought Shepard wasn't fleshed out enough, but now that you mention it...it IS always Shepard asking how folks are doing, and not the other way around.

At least he has a voice. My Dragon Age character really bugged me for that fact, even though I loved the game.

Frankly, that's a major reason why I still haven't installed Dragon Age but am going through Mass Effect 2 a third time.

Also, in ME1/ME2 it looks like the dialogue is much more animated. You hug people and punch them and stuff, whereas Dragon Age looks more like Knights of the Old Republic (which is by now quite old)--Two generally emotionless faces with thousand-year stares looking at each other. Just an observation based on what I've seen so far, but I can't say anything definite until I try it out.

Dragon Age is enjoyable, especially for RPG nuts, and is a hell of a lot longer than the ME games. But I have never played a game with the cinematic quality and emotional involvement of the ME games. The story and the characters just stay with you.

I agree. I liked Dragon Age well enough, but I liked the Mass Effect squad mates better. Just a matter of preference, really. The Dragon Age party was still diverse.

[NuclearBuddha]

I can just imagine readers of Fornax usually skipping over the dry medical humor in columns by Dr. Hacksaw/Dr. Serrice/Helen of Arcturus and then being shocked when all of the sudden her next column after a strange absence is an in-depth medical assessment of a post-unprotected coitus quarian.

[Water Dumple]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...
Also, in ME1/ME2 it looks like the dialogue is much more animated. You hug people and punch them and stuff, whereas Dragon Age looks more like Knights of the Old Republic (which is by now quite old)--Two generally emotionless faces with thousand-year stares looking at each other. Just an observation based on what I've seen so far, but I can't say anything definite until I try it out.

ME2 is miles above ME1 in the conversation stage direction department.  A lot of times in ME1 it's "Here's one head.  Now here's the other head."  There's a lot more camera work and blocking in ME2 overall.

Definitely noticed this; ME1 sort of bores me after just the two playthroughs. It has the start of something great, but it's bogged down by loads of elevators, loading screens, and a very poor inventory organization (especially when the system has you carrying around 15,000 Avenger V assault rifles because you keep on picking up useless garbage). And there aren't enough convenience options, like selling all ____ (item type) at once. The combat isn't nearly as good in my opinion; too often I see squadmates standing somewhere that makes no sense, firing shot after shot into a wall, and you have to go to the management screen to trigger specific squadmate abilities. In ME2, it's almost completely seamless.

Not to start an argument about ME1's quality, which is still pretty good, but...man, ME2 was a breath of fresh air in my opinion.

[NuclearBuddha]

And here I was worried that nobody would understand what I meant by "blocking."

[RedTracer7]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I can just imagine readers of Fornax usually skipping over the dry medical humor in columns by Dr. Hacksaw/Dr. Serrice/Helen of Arcturus and then being shocked when all of the sudden her next column after a strange absence is an in-depth medical assessment of a post-unprotected coitus quarian.

In conclusion, it seems to be totally worth it.

[NCLanceman]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I can just imagine readers of Fornax usually skipping over the dry medical humor in columns by Dr. Hacksaw/Dr. Serrice/Helen of Arcturus and then being shocked when all of the sudden her next column after a strange absence is an in-depth medical assessment of a post-unprotected coitus quarian.

Shepard: *thumbs through Fornax* Damn. She hasn't had an article this good in two years...
*pause*
Shepard: Wait...

[Collider]

ME2 lacked ME1's sense of scale - though, I think I say that partly with a wonderful feeling of nostalgia. ME2 as a whole was more polished, but lacked some of ME1's charm. that said, I prefer ME2.

[NuclearBuddha]

NCLanceman wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I can just imagine readers of Fornax usually skipping over the dry medical humor in columns by Dr. Hacksaw/Dr. Serrice/Helen of Arcturus and then being shocked when all of the sudden her next column after a strange absence is an in-depth medical assessment of a post-unprotected coitus quarian.

Shepard: *thumbs through Fornax* Damn. She hasn't had an article this good in two years...
*pause*
Shepard: Wait...

Then he hurriedly tries to round up all the copies on board...

[Ormagodenator]

Collider wrote...

ME2 lacked ME1's sense of scale - though, I think I say that partly with a wonderful feeling of nostalgia. ME2 as a whole was more polished, but lacked some of ME1's charm. that said, I prefer ME2.

ME2 felt like it was missing something

[Water Dumple]

Azint wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Frankly, that's a major reason why I still haven't installed Dragon Age but am going through Mass Effect 2 a third time.

Also, in ME1/ME2 it looks like the dialogue is much more animated. You hug people and punch them and stuff, whereas Dragon Age looks more like Knights of the Old Republic (which is by now quite old)--Two generally emotionless faces with thousand-year stares looking at each other. Just an observation based on what I've seen so far, but I can't say anything definite until I try it out.

I assure you, Dragon Age has very solid writing, worth experiencing.

And that's the price of pushing the bar; standards are raised. Not all games will have full-voice acting, and it should be expected and understood what sort of effort there is to do it.

I fully intend to give it a run, but ME2 has my interest a little bit too captured to go to anything else right now.

That sort of happened to every game I was playing before I started Mass Effect...nearly 100 hours sunk into Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and 350 into Team Fortress 2, completely stopped both of them the day I began ME1. Then I looked at a video of ME2, saw that Garrus and Tali were back, and life seemed worth living again.

[RedTracer7]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

NCLanceman wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I can just imagine readers of Fornax usually skipping over the dry medical humor in columns by Dr. Hacksaw/Dr. Serrice/Helen of Arcturus and then being shocked when all of the sudden her next column after a strange absence is an in-depth medical assessment of a post-unprotected coitus quarian.

Shepard: *thumbs through Fornax* Damn. She hasn't had an article this good in two years...
*pause*
Shepard: Wait...

Then he hurriedly tries to round up all the copies on board...

Shepard: *Waiting for Elevator to reach Engineering Level* Come on, come on....

*Door Opens to Reveal Tali, shotgun in hand*

Shepard:  ....Where are you going?

Tali:  Was doing some reading.  I suddenly have a need to speak with a doctor.

Shepard:  

[cannedcream]

NCLanceman wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I can just imagine readers of Fornax usually skipping over the dry medical humor in columns by Dr. Hacksaw/Dr. Serrice/Helen of Arcturus and then being shocked when all of the sudden her next column after a strange absence is an in-depth medical assessment of a post-unprotected coitus quarian.

Shepard: *thumbs through Fornax* Damn. She hasn't had an article this good in two years...
*pause*
Shepard: Wait...

LOL!

You can almost see the gears turning inside of his head.

[Azint]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

NCLanceman wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I can just imagine readers of Fornax usually skipping over the dry medical humor in columns by Dr. Hacksaw/Dr. Serrice/Helen of Arcturus and then being shocked when all of the sudden her next column after a strange absence is an in-depth medical assessment of a post-unprotected coitus quarian.

Shepard: *thumbs through Fornax* Damn. She hasn't had an article this good in two years...
*pause*
Shepard: Wait...

Then he hurriedly tries to round up all the copies on board...

Shepard: Dr. Chakwas, I think Dr. Hacksaw might be a quarian!

[SpaceBuscuit]

Water Dumple wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...
Also, in ME1/ME2 it looks like the dialogue is much more animated. You hug people and punch them and stuff, whereas Dragon Age looks more like Knights of the Old Republic (which is by now quite old)--Two generally emotionless faces with thousand-year stares looking at each other. Just an observation based on what I've seen so far, but I can't say anything definite until I try it out.

ME2 is miles above ME1 in the conversation stage direction department.  A lot of times in ME1 it's "Here's one head.  Now here's the other head."  There's a lot more camera work and blocking in ME2 overall.

Definitely noticed this; ME1 sort of bores me after just the two playthroughs. It has the start of something great, but it's bogged down by loads of elevators, loading screens, and a very poor inventory organization (especially when the system has you carrying around 15,000 Avenger V assault rifles because you keep on picking up useless garbage). And there aren't enough convenience options, like selling all ____ (item type) at once. The combat isn't nearly as good in my opinion; too often I see squadmates standing somewhere that makes no sense, firing shot after shot into a wall, and you have to go to the management screen to trigger specific squadmate abilities. In ME2, it's almost completely seamless.

Not to start an argument about ME1's quality, which is still pretty good, but...man, ME2 was a breath of fresh air in my opinion.

Combat was definitely better in ME2, but I do personally wish they'd kept some of the ME1 features. Notably the inventory and manual uprgrades. Gave the game that much more of an RPG feel. Also the Mako. Yes, it sucked in ME1, but I would have liked if they'd just improved the handling, rather than removed it completely. It gave a sense of scale to the universe, exploring all those uninhabited planets rather than just scanning them from orbit.

[NuclearBuddha]

Azint wrote...
Shepard: Dr. Chakwas, I think Dr. Hacksaw might be a quarian!

Oh, man, I laughed.  Clueless Shep strikes again!

[Su37]

Ormagodenator wrote...

Collider wrote...

ME2 lacked ME1's sense of scale - though, I think I say that partly with a wonderful feeling of nostalgia. ME2 as a whole was more polished, but lacked some of ME1's charm. that said, I prefer ME2.

ME2 felt like it was missing something

It is an amazing game, but it was missing many things.
Mako...