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Jacob. Legion. Miranda. Possibly Grunt, but I could see them warming up to eachother.

Hey Tali, don't forget to introduce yourself to the AI! :haw:


To be fair, Tali kind of deserved that one...  *ducks :?*


Cerberus attacked her people, killed twenty of them, tried to kill at least six hundred more, civilians and children included, all to kidnap and experiment on a child.

She has every right in the world to hate Cerberus. If anything, Jacob should have gotten on his hands and knees and begged for forgiveness. <_<


Am I the only one who thought Jacob just didn't realize he insulted her? That he was just asking her to speak to EDI?

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To be fair, Tali kind of deserved that one...  *ducks :?*

The hell did she do? Cerberus has a known reputation for being douches to 'advance the human race'. She was right to not trust them. Jacob basically insults her people's entire history with one breath and she deserved it?


She was unnecessarily hostile.  She shouldn't trust Cerberus, but openly saying that you intend to blow up everyone involved, when Jacob is only trying to be nice isn't the way to go.  She was the one who started the confrontation, and what Jacob said was hardly that serious.


Really? Them killing her people isn't justification for being upset?

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Y'all take things way too seriously in here!

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RiptideX1090 wrote...
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Cerberus attacked her people, killed twenty of them, tried to kill at least six hundred more, civilians and children included, all to kidnap and experiment on a child.

She has every right in the world to hate Cerberus. If anything, Jacob should have gotten on his hands and knees and begged for forgiveness. <_<


Cerberus did, Jacob didn't.  Quarians created the geth that killed thousands of people on the Citadel, Tali didn't.  Lumping all people together like she does there is narrow minded, a quality that she goes very far to avoid in all other facets of her life, because of her experience of people doing it to her.

He feels the same way about that stuff as Tali did.  Which is why her comments are even more unneeded.

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MadCat221 wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
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Jacob. Legion. Miranda. Possibly Grunt, but I could see them warming up to eachother.

Hey Tali, don't forget to introduce yourself to the AI! :haw:


To be fair, Tali kind of deserved that one...  *ducks :?*


Cerberus attacked her people, killed twenty of them, tried to kill at least six hundred more, civilians and children included, all to kidnap and experiment on a child.

She has every right in the world to hate Cerberus. If anything, Jacob should have gotten on his hands and knees and begged for forgiveness. <_<


Agreeed.  Dick move, Jacob.

Renegade Interrupt Dope Slap needed for Jacob at that point.


**** that.

That's a Paragon Interrupt if I've ever seen one.

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So a Rael story where he's not dead? Something like this:

Glowing eyes twitched. Rael moaned as he struggled to sit up. His head suddenly surged with pain as blood flow raced from flowing so slowly. He moaned in pain.

"Damn on-board stasis program..." he groaned.

It was fail-safe in case his experiment did fail. He theorized that Geth were able to detect life signs through heart beats. His on-board suit computer injected him with a drug that slowed his heart beat down to almost nothing. Not enough to kill him but enough so he was able to "play dead". He struggled to his feet. The drug had a bigger kick than he expected.

Rael finally went into a slight panic as he remembered exactly what happened before the drugs were injected. He was leaving a message for his daughter in case she came for him. Then the door blew open. Since he was unarmed, he activated the drugs to knock himself out so the Geth did not take him out, making them think the explosion killed him. Around him he saw the dead bodies of his colleagues. It pained him to realize that this was his fault.

Though he saw bodies of Geth laying all over the place. Their "blood" sprayed all over. Must have been teh marines, he thought. Many of them considering how many geth inhabited the ship. By now they know what he has done. He wanted to keep his promise to his daughter and in his haste, he ruined that chance. Rael turned and went up the stairs expecting to find a squad of marines to escourt him off the fleet.

Rael got to the doors and opened them to find no one. Just more dead geth. Up ahead was the terminal. He walked over to it and tried to activate it.

"What the hell?" he mumbled. Nothing came up. The entire terminal was wiped clean. Absolutely nothing came up.

Rael tried accessing everything he could, but the terminal was left blank. Finally he sighed. They must have taken it. At least his mistake will help his people. Rael activated communications, trying to reach the Admiralty Board. Instead of getting the board, a live video was shown to him instead. The videom was being broadcasted to every ship on the Fleet. It was of a trial. At the stand was his daughter and her human Captain, Shepard. His daughter was on trial for Treason!

Rael pounded his fist against the wall. He didn't want his daughter to take the blame for this. An epiphany dawned on him. It was her and Shepard that came in here. That means they wiped the drives. But why? Unless...

"No!" he screamed. That bosh'tet captain better not let he get exiled, or he'll hunt him down!

"Sorry we're late," his daughter said.

Shepard stepped forward. "Tali'Zorah saved the Alarei. I hope this proves her loyalty to the Quarian people."

So this is Shepard. He certainly knows how to talk, I'll give him that.

"Her loyalty was never in doubt, only her judgement," Koris replied.

Damn suit wetter. They don't honestly think she's responsible for this?

"Perhaps Tali'Zorah can offer something to encourage more trust in her judgement," Shala added.

"Did you find anything on the Alarei to clarify what happened there," Gerrel finished.

Shepard looked at Tali like he was conflicted. He walked forward.

"Shepard, please..." she begged.

It dawned on him. Tali and Shepard knows what he did and she's begging him not show show the evidence! You damn well better show the evidence!

"Does Captain Shepard have any new evidence to submit to this hearing?"

Shepard reached the podium and said, "Tali helped me defeat Saren and the geth at the Citadel. That should be all the evidence you need."

What is he doing?

"I fail to see what relevance-" Koris said before being interupted.

"You not really interested in Tali, are you? This trial isn't about her. It's about the Geth!"

"This hearing has nothing to do with the Geth!"

"You want people to sympathize with them!" Shepard slammed his fist against the podium. This caused Koris to take a step back. "Han'Gerrel wants to go to war! None of you care about Tali! She knows more about the Geth than any other Quarian alive. You should be listening to her not putting her on trial. Tali'Zorah saved the Citadel. She saved the Alarei. She showed the Galaxy the value of the Quarian people. I can't think of stronger evidence than that."

"Are the Admirals prepared to render jugement?" Shala announced.

The three Admirals opened their omni-tools. Rael gasped at that speech. Why would this human put so much passion into his speech for one of their people? He saw Tali watching Shepard with her hands resting on each other. It finally dawned on him. The stories his daughter told of him, they way she talked about him! They loved each other. Why would she love him? Again it dawned on him. He was there for her. In the good times and bad.

This was his fault. All of it. Now his daughter is going to be exiled because Shepard is following her wishes. Koris briefly hesitated before casting his vote.

"Tali'Zorah, in light of your history of service we do not find sufficent evidence to convict. You are cleared of all charges. Commander Shepard please accept these gifts in appreciation for taking your time to represent one of our people."

Rael's eyes widen. He did it... The human actually got his daughter exonerated! Rael chuckled to himself. Still one problem remains. Him. Rael had to find some way to explain what happened.

Shepard's omni-tool beeped. "If you appreciate me, then listen. The Reapers are coming. Please don't throw away your lives against the geth."

"Thank you, Commander Shepard, I hope the Board considers your recommendation."

"This hearing is concluded. Go in peace Tali'Zorah vas Normandy. Keelah sa'lei."

The video ended leaving Rael quiet. Within the next several hours he had to think of a good explanation of what happened on the ship.

* * * * *

Rael spent the next several hours sabotaging the power cords to simulate a power surge. One good power surge caused the random activation of one geth part. Completely random accident. He'll be cleared and still able to continue his work. With more safeties this time.

He heard several footsteps behind him. "Everyone thinks you're dead," a cold voice said.

Rael rcognized the voice. It always gave him chills. He turned around to see Xen standing there.

"I assumed they found something they didn't like here. And here you are." She looked over his shoulder. Rael was too stunned to reply. Xen shook her head. "And destroying equipment. Shame, shame. Everything here was your fault. Despite how well, Tali and Commander Shepard wiped the drives here, I was still able to recover files. Sensitive files."

"What are you asking for, Xen?"

"It seems we're both in an intresting position. I could hand over the evidence, but... That wouldn't help anyone. Especially me. See I'm interested in your research. This isn't about destroying the Geth. It's about controlling them."

"Yes..."

"Then we're both more alike than I thought. Now if you suddenly reappeared that would raise too many questions. Questions I don't want answered. Shepard did an incredible job in covering yours and Tali's tracks, so I would suggest this. You remain dead. But in secret we continue your research."

"I-I made my daughter a promise."

"The house on the homeworld, yes?" Xen leaned forward getting in Rael's face. He did not like her being so close to his face. Too intimate.

"Yes..." he sighed.

"Work with me and you'll be able to keep that promise."

Rael glanced around the ship. "Alright."

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Kikaimegami wrote...

Y'all take things way too seriously in here!


We are a political-interface, it is our job to blow everything out of proportion.

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TMA Live, we are building a consenus.

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PKchu wrote...

See, I thought Jacob was just being obtuse there, and not derisive.


I personally think he made the comment as a slight glancing blow, in response to her words, though it is up for debate.

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The tone of voice was like a "Oh hey! Check this out," not a "We have an AI you dumb Quarian" thing.



Just my IMO. Replay would probably help, youtube.

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Am I the only one who thought Jacob just didn't realize he insulted her? That he was just asking her to speak to EDI?

So he's either a racist or or incompetent idiot? I can live with that.

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hey guys...... uh...... whats going on in the tali thread this evening?

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InHarmsWay wrote...

"The house on the homeworld, yes?" Xen leaned forward getting in Rael's face. He did not like her being so close to his face. Too intimate.

"Yes..." he sighed.

"Work with me and you'll be able to keep that promise."

Rael glanced around the ship. "Alright."


OH SHI-

As the writer of Reckoning, I find this humorous.

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Lividity Jones wrote...

MadCat221 wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
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Jacob. Legion. Miranda. Possibly Grunt, but I could see them warming up to eachother.

Hey Tali, don't forget to introduce yourself to the AI! :haw:


To be fair, Tali kind of deserved that one...  *ducks :?*


Cerberus attacked her people, killed twenty of them, tried to kill at least six hundred more, civilians and children included, all to kidnap and experiment on a child.

She has every right in the world to hate Cerberus. If anything, Jacob should have gotten on his hands and knees and begged for forgiveness. <_<


Agreeed.  Dick move, Jacob.

Renegade Interrupt Dope Slap needed for Jacob at that point.


**** that.

That's a Paragon Interrupt if I've ever seen one.


No, it fits in better with the knee-jerk nature of most Renegade interrupts.

The Paragon response would be a follow-up dialog piece where you say "What the hell, Jacob?"

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Phil725 wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
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Cerberus attacked her people, killed twenty of them, tried to kill at least six hundred more, civilians and children included, all to kidnap and experiment on a child.

She has every right in the world to hate Cerberus. If anything, Jacob should have gotten on his hands and knees and begged for forgiveness. <_<


Cerberus did, Jacob didn't.  Quarians created the geth that killed thousands of people on the Citadel, Tali didn't.  Lumping all people together like she does there is narrow minded, a quality that she goes very far to avoid in all other facets of her life, because of her experience of people doing it to her.

He feels the same way about that stuff as Tali did.  Which is why her comments are even more unneeded.


Cerberus is not a race. It's an organization. A TERRORIST organization. There is a difference.

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MadCat221 wrote...

No, it fits in better with the knee-jerk nature of most Renegade interrupts.

The Paragon response would be a follow-up dialog piece where you say "What the hell, Jacob?"


Point taken.

That would have been nice.

"What the ****, dude?"

"...What?"

"AI? On the ship? Y'know, the thing that drove her people to extinction?"

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Lividity Jones wrote...

InHarmsWay wrote...

"The house on the homeworld, yes?" Xen leaned forward getting in Rael's face. He did not like her being so close to his face. Too intimate.

"Yes..." he sighed.

"Work with me and you'll be able to keep that promise."

Rael glanced around the ship. "Alright."


OH SHI-

As the writer of Reckoning, I find this humorous.


No possible. Xen states that she was unaware of what Rael was doing, but that if he was experimenting on active geth, that they certainly had ideas in common.

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Am I the only one who thought Jacob just didn't realize he insulted her? That he was just asking her to speak to EDI?

So he's either a racist or or incompetent idiot? I can live with that.

Might have just been a lapse of thoughtfulness, mistakes happen. You can get overeager about your impressive AI.

Jacob's not really a hateable character or a bad guy (I don't think he's a racist), he is just chronically boring.

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We have to leave now, keep it clean, and Keelah Se'lai all.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

InHarmsWay wrote...

"The house on the homeworld, yes?" Xen leaned forward getting in Rael's face. He did not like her being so close to his face. Too intimate.

"Yes..." he sighed.

"Work with me and you'll be able to keep that promise."

Rael glanced around the ship. "Alright."


OH SHI-

As the writer of Reckoning, I find this humorous.


No possible. Xen states that she was unaware of what Rael was doing, but that if he was experimenting on active geth, that they certainly had ideas in common.


True.

Even if Rael was alive, she had his research.

He was useless and, more importantly, dangerous. He failed once already.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

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Am I the only one who thought Jacob just didn't realize he insulted her? That he was just asking her to speak to EDI?

So he's either a racist or or incompetent idiot? I can live with that.


I'd go with the idiot. I don't think he meant to offend. Though after hearing about the cuddlebone bit with Garrus... Well, maybe he's just like that with Turians.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

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Cerberus attacked her people, killed twenty of them, tried to kill at least six hundred more, civilians and children included, all to kidnap and experiment on a child.

She has every right in the world to hate Cerberus. If anything, Jacob should have gotten on his hands and knees and begged for forgiveness. <_<


Cerberus did, Jacob didn't.  Quarians created the geth that killed thousands of people on the Citadel, Tali didn't.  Lumping all people together like she does there is narrow minded, a quality that she goes very far to avoid in all other facets of her life, because of her experience of people doing it to her.

He feels the same way about that stuff as Tali did.  Which is why her comments are even more unneeded.


Cerberus is not a race. It's an organization. A TERRORIST organization. There is a difference.




Cerberus agents lie to people's faces if it serves their goals.  Just look at Timmay.  By that point, Jacob had done nothing but give potentially empty words (by her POV).  As far as she's concerned, he's an agent of a group that killed 20 of her people and nearly killed 600 more in order to kidnap an autistic biotic girl to do who knows what kinds of horrid experiments on.

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Oh my actual reaction to Jacob's comment was a facepalm. I seriously just think he's an idiot at that specific point :P

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

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Cerberus did, Jacob didn't.  Quarians created the geth that killed thousands of people on the Citadel, Tali didn't.  Lumping all people together like she does there is narrow minded, a quality that she goes very far to avoid in all other facets of her life, because of her experience of people doing it to her.

He feels the same way about that stuff as Tali did.  Which is why her comments are even more unneeded.


Cerberus is not a race. It's an organization. A TERRORIST organization. There is a difference.


They're both fractured entities.  What one person in Cerberus does doesn't affect what others do.  Its a terrorist organization that also offers an outlet for people like Chakwas and Joker to help people, like the hundreds of thousands of Terminus colonists who aren't reaper paste right now.  Racism against quarians isn't directly relatable to prejudice against Cerberus, but the main precedent of judging an unrelated person for what someone else did is the same.  Tali knows better than that, its just a rare slip up in her character.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

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Cerberus attacked her people, killed twenty of them, tried to kill at least six hundred more, civilians and children included, all to kidnap and experiment on a child.

She has every right in the world to hate Cerberus. If anything, Jacob should have gotten on his hands and knees and begged for forgiveness. <_<


Cerberus did, Jacob didn't.  Quarians created the geth that killed thousands of people on the Citadel, Tali didn't.  Lumping all people together like she does there is narrow minded, a quality that she goes very far to avoid in all other facets of her life, because of her experience of people doing it to her.

He feels the same way about that stuff as Tali did.  Which is why her comments are even more unneeded.


Cerberus is not a race. It's an organization. A TERRORIST organization. There is a difference.




Just because Jacob is part of Cerberus doesn't mean he is to blame for the **** they pull.

For instance, **** party = bad but individual members of the German government where not evil. I'm not going to hate and insult a social worker in **** Germany just because he works for the ****s. He wanted to help his people and working for the ****s was the only way.