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Dont' you guys think we might be playing with fire? Talking about movies and anime after JUST getting locked down? I think we're pushing it a bit.

Well, some of us are trying to keep on topic - as to how Tali would like/dislike said movies. :P  Discussing the themes in them that would resonate with her, and with other ME characters.  But granted, should move on to more Tali-related goodness.  Like CotEM. ~_^
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XIX: In the Shadow of the Citadel

Ask me not to speak of that terrible, half-mad race as both pursuer and pursued for much of what I recall is hardly believable, even to the credulous reader. What details are fit to be related are atmospheric and mundane when considered individually. However, approached with a holistic view, and one already shaken by certain monstrous sights and the death of a much beloved comrade, these otherwise simple details formed an unequalled landscape of madness which our aimless flight and chase crossed. The unwholesomely damp night-winds rolled in from the coast unseen before us, carrying a foetor laden with terrible portent. The gibbous moon leered overhead, a malignant eye watching the terror of the earth below uncaringly, its idiot scrutiny broken by the dark cumulonimbus billows driven by the gale in the upper air. Swamp lights flickered all around us, confusing our bewildered sense of direction. These greenish will o’ wisps flickered with such devilish intent that it was difficult not to ascribe an evil volition to what surely could only have been natural ignitions of marsh-gas. Eerie cries sounded on all sides, and though we hardly lacked for explanations, given the nature of what hunted on our trail, I could not help but recall the dark whispers of the Greenmarsh folk about what might lurk among the standing stones of the bog.

At times it seemed we were nigh to apprehend M. Arterius, at others we dashed in stark terror of being overhauled by the howling mass of Cossacks, yet somehow both outcomes failed to be realized. Instead, we continued the stumbling dash though the swamp, slopping through disgustingly stagnant and brackish pools and turning ankles joltingly on the occasional stone or other strangely solid patch of earth. Miss Zorah may have lead the way, loping easily over the loathsome, moist ground, torso bent forward at a queerly predatory angle. She, younger than I, had perhaps discovered a better way to traverse this wasteland of muck and slime despite her hereditary illness, for she seemed less troubled by the terrain. However, the sure-footed Inspector Vakarian also made good speed, obviously accustomed to the rigors of pursuit.

Tormenting me as we ran were the revelations of the night, the awful knowledge that human civilization hung by the most tenuous of threads over a seething abyss of madness and blasphemy from which it could never be recovered. What point was there, to continue our hunt for M. Arterius, if we could hope only to deny him whatever self-inflicted servitude to gibbering powers beyond human comprehension he was bent upon? Would not the Elder Machines rise from their slumber of eons with nightmarish purpose no matter the outcome of the relatively pathetic mortal drama already taxing us to our limits? Foolishly, my mind struggled to find a way from this cruel trap the cosmos had set for life on our benighted planet. Despair choked my breath as I falteringly ran, for how was I to devise a plan that might disrupt an infallible cycle of insanity and obliteration older than the very continents upon which life had the temerity to tread?

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Azint wrote...

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According to the codex entry on Quarian liveships, they use solar lights to cultivate and grow plants/food on the liveships, which are notably larger than other Migrant ships and actually have sizeable rooms with space to move around in (The trial takes place in a liveship, for reference). The food is then rapidly transported to other ships from there.

Maybe they don't have to eat paste on their own ships, I dunno. If they do, it's almost certainly made from plant-based food; but the codex entry makes it pretty clear that Quarians grow their own food rather than buy it. I would have assumed that they'd have a mutual relationship with the Volus for things like that, but apparently such is not the case.

I read the codex entires, forgive me for not remembering all of them.

Although they may be a wandering race, the quarians still seem self-serving. I would not have assumed that they would ever rely on any second-party resources.


After their exile, I doubt there was anyone to rely on; at least, no one willing to provide the sheer amount of resources they would require. The choices were either to become fully self-sufficient or face extinction as a race. It's amazing what can get done when your other option is death.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...
But I like FFVI.  The completely understated romance between Locke and Celes is beautiful.

I replay that one every 3rd year.  Also an excellent choice.  I love what they did with Terra.

ME2, however, is something I can run through in a week or so.  Anything FF takes a while for a playthrough.

Granted.  Totally worth it though.

Thinking about it, FFIV and FFVI have themes that would resonate with Tali. Betrayal, expectations, but the willingness to do the right thing, or the best thing for the most people, at a cost to oneself.

FFVI was the last Final Fantasy game I actually liked, I just love Sabin soooo much, he's way too much fun to use in combat. Also the Locke/Celes relationship is charming, but "beautiful" a not quite there yet for me. "Beautiful is what I use to describe Shepard/Tali relationship.

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Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Dont' you guys think we might be playing with fire? Talking about movies and anime after JUST getting locked down? I think we're pushing it a bit.

You aren't quite helping by just pointing it out.

There is a light discussion going on, on-topic. You could join.


The point is, Tali would love anime. She's a nerd, after all. Albeit a sexy alien nerd, with the most adorable non-human legs and feet you could imagine. Does that make her the perfect woman?....hmmmmm

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Azint wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

According to the codex entry on Quarian liveships, they use solar lights to cultivate and grow plants/food on the liveships, which are notably larger than other Migrant ships and actually have sizeable rooms with space to move around in (The trial takes place in a liveship, for reference). The food is then rapidly transported to other ships from there.

Maybe they don't have to eat paste on their own ships, I dunno. If they do, it's almost certainly made from plant-based food; but the codex entry makes it pretty clear that Quarians grow their own food rather than buy it. I would have assumed that they'd have a mutual relationship with the Volus for things like that, but apparently such is not the case.

I read the codex entires, forgive me for not remembering all of them.

Although they may be a wandering race, the quarians still seem self-serving. I would not have assumed that they would ever rely on any second-party resources.


They clearly aren't opposed to the idea, as the Pilgrimage is pretty much that exact concept (bringing in usable resources of any sort); of course, since it's never a gift from another race and pretty much every Council species is racist against Quarians, they're forced to be largely independant.

This seems to be why they're immediately hostile toward the notion of Shepard speaking for Tali during the trial or helping Veetor/Kal'Reegar, since humans rarely take interest in the Quarians for mutual relations. That and the previous Cerberus incident, which Shepard can never quite shake off despite his denial of legitimate ties to Cerberus.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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Although they may be a wandering race, the quarians still seem self-serving. I would not have assumed that they would ever rely on any second-party resources.

It's tough even for many planets to be self-sufficient.  I think quarians might have the food situation under control (given the talk about how important the Liveships are to preventing starvation), but everything else has to come from the outside.

Foraging, scavenging, it's not exactly the same as going outside and asking for things.

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SpaceBuscuit wrote...

Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Dont' you guys think we might be playing with fire? Talking about movies and anime after JUST getting locked down? I think we're pushing it a bit.

You aren't quite helping by just pointing it out.

There is a light discussion going on, on-topic. You could join.


The point is, Tali would love anime. She's a nerd, after all. Albeit a sexy alien nerd, with the most adorable non-human legs and feet you could imagine. Does that make her the perfect woman?....hmmmmm

Your argument assumes that all nerds love anime.  I'm a nerd and I can't stand anime, so make of that what you will. 

Personally, I don't think Tali is the type to enjoy anime.  She prefers...action, being social and of course her engineering work.

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SpaceBuscuit wrote...

Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Dont' you guys think we might be playing with fire? Talking about movies and anime after JUST getting locked down? I think we're pushing it a bit.

You aren't quite helping by just pointing it out.

There is a light discussion going on, on-topic. You could join.


The point is, Tali would love anime. She's a nerd, after all. Albeit a sexy alien nerd, with the most adorable non-human legs and feet you could imagine. Does that make her the perfect woman?....hmmmmm


Tali is easily the perfect woman.

"You deserve to be happy with someone... I can't do that... no matter how much I..."

When the person cares more about your happiness than theirs, you know you've got the perfect girl. :crying:

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

XIX: In the Shadow of the Citadel
*storySNIP*

*picSNIP*


Wonderful as always, Nuke.

This reminds me; I'm not sure how well you're set up for the pictures you add after these things, but I have two, maybe three photos that you might like to look at. If so, though it'll take me some time to get them loaded and presentable (something I could probably do tomorrow). If not, then that's fine too.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Tali is easily the perfect woman.

"You deserve to be happy with someone... I can't do that... no matter how much I..."

When the person cares more about your happiness than theirs, you know you've got the perfect girl. :crying:


I promised myself....... that........ I wouldn't cry......*sniff*

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Dont' you guys think we might be playing with fire? Talking about movies and anime after JUST getting locked down? I think we're pushing it a bit.

 

I  was talking about it into relation to what films I would show Tali and how the themes and characters relate to her  and her character. Which can be rather interesting discussion but if would like to go back to talking biology with folks who don't understand and beating your head into the table please do so. I would be  rather sad because I do enjoy your post and opinions. I would be a sad day if brained yourself on your desk because some missed a point you made.  .   

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cannedcream wrote...
Wonderful as always, Nuke.

This reminds me; I'm not sure how well you're set up for the pictures you add after these things, but I have two, maybe three photos that you might like to look at. If so, though it'll take me some time to get them loaded and presentable (something I could probably do tomorrow). If not, then that's fine too.

I would love to see whatever you have, seriously.  After all, I'm only about halfway through.

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LuckyIronAxe wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Tali is easily the perfect woman.

"You deserve to be happy with someone... I can't do that... no matter how much I..."

When the person cares more about your happiness than theirs, you know you've got the perfect girl. :crying:


I promised myself....... that........ I wouldn't cry......*sniff*


The fact that Liz Sroka's voice breaks at that point doesn't help matters. It's killing Tali to say it. It's evident in her voice. But she want's Shepard to have a happy life with someone, even if it's not her.

Beautiful... :crying:

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[/quote]
Your argument assumes that all nerds love anime.  I'm a nerd and I can't stand anime, so make of that what you will. 

Personally, I don't think Tali is the type to enjoy anime.  She prefers...action, being social and of course her engineering work.

[/quote]

Point taken. But my argument wasn't meant to assume that. We all have our own tastes. Was just a having a little Tali-related fun, is all. I'm actually not a huge anime fan myself, but for one or two movies. Much of what I say shouldn't be taken 100% seriously. Except for the Tali-love, of course ;)

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

However, approached with a holistic view, and one already shaken by certain monstrous sights and the death of a much beloved comrade, these otherwise simple details formed an unequalled landscape of madness which our aimless flight and chase crossed. The unwholesomely damp night-winds rolled in from the coast unseen before us, carrying a foetor laden with terrible portent. The gibbous moon leered overhead, a malignant eye watching the terror of the earth below uncaringly, its idiot scrutiny broken by the dark cumulonimbus billows driven by the gale in the upper air. Swamp lights flickered all around us, confusing our bewildered sense of direction.

Hmm...

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

SpaceBuscuit wrote...

Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Dont' you guys think we might be playing with fire? Talking about movies and anime after JUST getting locked down? I think we're pushing it a bit.

You aren't quite helping by just pointing it out.

There is a light discussion going on, on-topic. You could join.


The point is, Tali would love anime. She's a nerd, after all. Albeit a sexy alien nerd, with the most adorable non-human legs and feet you could imagine. Does that make her the perfect woman?....hmmmmm


Tali is easily the perfect woman.

"You deserve to be happy with someone... I can't do that... no matter how much I..."

When the person cares more about your happiness than theirs, you know you've got the perfect girl. :crying:

 

I cry man tears  in agreement with you  :crying:

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Well, I got to run, later Tali thread!

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SpaceBuscuit wrote...

Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Dont' you guys think we might be playing with fire? Talking about movies and anime after JUST getting locked down? I think we're pushing it a bit.

You aren't quite helping by just pointing it out.

There is a light discussion going on, on-topic. You could join.


The point is, Tali would love anime. She's a nerd, after all. Albeit a sexy alien nerd, with the most adorable non-human legs and feet you could imagine. Does that make her the perfect woman?....hmmmmm


Liking anime does not necessarily equate to being a nerd.

I hate anime and I'm posting on this forum--Nay, this thread--which still qualifies for hardcore nerddom. Hell, even reading the thread starts to make you a nerd. Or something much worse.

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[/quote]  

I cry man tears  in agreement with you  :crying:
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Yes, more man tears....being pathetic has never felt so right...;)

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Azint wrote...
Hmm...

Yes?

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NuclearBuddha wrote...


I would love to see whatever you have, seriously.  After all, I'm only about halfway through.


Sweeeeet. <3

As I said, I'll try and get back with you tomorrow. I know I have one uploaded somewhere on the internet, but as I remember the size is MASSIVE. I'll hunt and trim that one down for you and upload the other two. I'll shoot you a PM when they're ready.

Also, there's no obligation to use any. I've been meaning to scan them and post them online for while now, but never had the motivation to till now.

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[quote]SpaceBuscuit wrote...


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I cry man tears  in agreement with you  :crying:
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Yes, more man tears....being pathetic has never felt so right...;)

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Tali has that effect on people. You just wanna give her the biggest hug ever. :crying:

Garrus too. But we don't get to hug him. <_<

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

XIX: In the Shadow of the Citadel

*snip*


I think I've got a song for the occasion, Nuke.

I also heard that we have to stay on topic, so I made something for the thread (admittantly, not something everyone could use or appreciate), but I don't wanna interrupt Call of the Elder Machines.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

LuckyIronAxe wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Tali is easily the perfect woman.

"You deserve to be happy with someone... I can't do that... no matter how much I..."

When the person cares more about your happiness than theirs, you know you've got the perfect girl. :crying:


I promised myself....... that........ I wouldn't cry......*sniff*


The fact that Liz Sroka's voice breaks at that point doesn't help matters. It's killing Tali to say it. It's evident in her voice. But she want's Shepard to have a happy life with someone, even if it's not her.

Beautiful... :crying:


That's what love is man; caring about someone so much that all you want is for them to be happy, even if it's not with you.
It's one of the reasons why my canon Shep (or any Shep, really) does not allows Tali to be exiled.

(it was a typo. Chill the **** out, guys.)

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