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[MadCat221]

Collider wrote...

I really hope that they don't base which side the Quarians are leaning on just by what Shepard says at the end of the trial.

I doubt that'll be the only factor.  Having Legion with you may be another, and having resolved Tali's and Legion's loyalty crisis with Upper Left Blue may also be a contributing factor.  It may not be the deciding factor, but may set the stage.

Modifié par MadCat221, 03 août 2010 - 07:17 .

[Water Dumple]

Anyone who thinks the Geth are entirely to blame and retaking the homeworld through violence is the only possible outcome needs to remember this.

[Someone With Mass]

Collider wrote...

I really hope that they don't base which side the Quarians are leaning on just by what Shepard says at the end of the trial.

That would be so stupid.

No explenation. Just stupid.

[RiptideX1090]

Someone With Mass wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

She can't even feel it... or smell it properly...

Rannoch. We're taking it back. Anyone gets in our way? Death. Shutdown. Whatever it's called when Geth explode.

Hell, I'd even make Legion's hole bigger if I have to. And then some.

I love my geth buddy. He's my robo bro.

But if he gets in my way... I'm sorry... I'll go through him if necessary.

[Collider]

Water Dumple wrote...

Anyone who thinks the Geth are entirely to blame and retaking the homeworld through violence is the only possible outcome needs to remember this.

Most people don't really think that in this thread. Most are for peace.

[RiptideX1090]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Collider wrote...

I really hope that they don't base which side the Quarians are leaning on just by what Shepard says at the end of the trial.

That would be so stupid.

No explenation. Just stupid.

Agreed.

I couldn't pass up the opportunity to say "I didn't defend one of your people. I defended one of mine."

The other options all just plain suck. And it's obvious they didn't listen to a damn thing you said. Han and Zaal both. ****ing idiots.

Modifié par RiptideX1090, 03 août 2010 - 07:20 .

[Mazder]

Water Dumple wrote...

Anyone who thinks the Geth are entirely to blame and retaking the homeworld through violence is the only possible outcome needs to remember this.

It's not the only option...but certainly the most fun!

[Someone With Mass]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Agreed.

I couldn't pass up the opportunity to say "I didn't defend one of your people. I defended on of mine."

The other options all just plain suck. And it's obvious they didn't listen to a damn thing you said. Han and Gerrel both. ****ing idiots.

I'm with Korris, anyway. If he has a plan on how to make peace, I'm all ears.

[RiptideX1090]

Collider wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Anyone who thinks the Geth are entirely to blame and retaking the homeworld through violence is the only possible outcome needs to remember this.

Most people don't really think that in this thread. Most are for peace.

The quarians are to blame for losing their world.

The geth are responsible for them going extinct.

And I am FULLY in support of peace. Just saying. If for some reason it's impossible in my game, I'm wiping out the geth if necessary.

[nitefyre410]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

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Lividity Jones wrote...


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This.

There is absolutely no reason Tali cannot have her home.

Anything short of reclamation is unnaceptable.

Even if it cost  her life and the lives  all the quarians and more... a Chunk of Rock floating  is space is worth that price?  They are so many more things that they can focus resources on mainly genetic modification  and boosting their immune system.   Its like Rannoch is a pipe dream,  talking to Reager really drives that point home... the Quarians  even with a new weapon they don't have the logistical strength for a full on fight and they are too stubborn to try to make peace.  

The only way to get Rannoch  back is peacefully but do you  think that the Quarians really want peace?  QwiibQwib is one voice and Ra'an tells you  which way the wind is blowing, sadly war is coming  and a lot of people are going to die needlessly. 

I'll use Xen's weapon if I have to.

If the geth are content to let the quarians go extinct, I see know reason why it shouldn't work the other way around. Kill all the "geth" and keep the shells as weapons. Hell, Legion even supports this kind of thinking during A House Divided.

 


If the Geth really wanted the  Quarians extinct they would have finished the Job  300 years ago, they did not.   Do you  think that even if   Geth came and offered peace the Quarians would listen I doubt  that. They would likely shoot them  in face on sight. No your Ire should be directed towards the Council  there is no moral, political, or legal justification to let them wonder like that for 300 years - 15 generations. Its just plan apathy, cruelty and politics. Its not that no one can't help them its that no one  wants to help them and now  the Quarians are getting to throw away 17 millions lives all thats left for no reason.   

 

 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 août 2010 - 07:27 .

[RiptideX1090]

Someone With Mass wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Agreed.

I couldn't pass up the opportunity to say "I didn't defend one of your people. I defended on of mine."

The other options all just plain suck. And it's obvious they didn't listen to a damn thing you said. Han and Gerrel both. ****ing idiots.

I'm with Korris, anyway. If he has a plan on how to make peace, I'm all ears.

Korris is less about peace, and more about Cowardice. If he was for peace, he wouldn't have called Legion out when you take him to the flotilla. He's just a spineless piece of crap who is scared of actually doing something to help the situation. Idiot.

I'd just as soon shoot him and replace him with an admiral who isn't a douchebag, or a weakling. THEN go for peace. That way I don't feel like a pansy for supporting it.

[Water Dumple]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Anyone who thinks the Geth are entirely to blame and retaking the homeworld through violence is the only possible outcome needs to remember this.

Most people don't really think that in this thread. Most are for peace.

The quarians are to blame for losing their world.

The geth are responsible for them going extinct.

And I am FULLY in support of peace. Just saying. If for some reason it's impossible in my game, I'm wiping out the geth if necessary.

Agreed; if it must come to war, I'd side with the organics. The problem is that war would be both tragic and catastrophic with peace so close--The Geth "Cannot solve for peace alone," but would be willing to come back "if new data was received that indicated coexistance is possible or desireable for creators." Really, it's about the Quarians understanding that the Geth are now capable of thinking independantly, but without resorting to violence.

[Someone With Mass]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

The quarians are to blame for losing their world.

The geth are responsible for them going extinct.

And I am FULLY in support of peace. Just saying. If for some reason it's impossible in my game, I'm wiping out the geth if necessary.

Or, if the option is available, get on the geth's good side and lure them into a battle they cannot win. Against the Reapers.

[RiptideX1090]

nitefyre410 wrote...


If the Geth really wanted the  Quarians extinct they would have finished the Job  300 years ago, they did not.   Do you  think that even if   Geth came and offered peace the Quarians would listen i doubt  that. they would likely shot them face on sight. No Your Ire should be directed towards the Council  there is no moral, political, or legal justification to let them wonder like that for 300 years - 15 generations. Its just plan apathy, cruelty and politics. Its not that no one can't help them its that no wants to help them and now  the Quarians are getting to throw away 17 millions lives  all thats left for no reason.   

 

 

The quarians will be extinct in the next century. Mal confirms this.

And believe me. I blame the Council FULLY. If there isn't a damn good ending for saving them, I'm going back, killing them, giving Xen the Geth, and the quarians can rule the damn galaxy with humanity and the Krogan.

That would be a beautiful ending... a brand new Council with the races who were subjugated rising up and taking their place.

I'd love that ending.

[Someone With Mass]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Korris is less about peace, and more about Cowardice. If he was for peace, he wouldn't have called Legion out when you take him to the flotilla. He's just a spineless piece of crap who is scared of actually doing something to help the situation. Idiot.

I'd just as soon shoot him and replace him with an admiral who isn't a douchebag, or a weakling. THEN go for peace. That way I don't feel like a pansy for supporting it.

Then again, I don't see a better alternative at the moment. Han wants the fleet to go into a "glorious" battle against the geth until the bitter end.

Shala...well, I don't know exactly what she wants. She apparently cares more for Tali than the fleet.
And then there's Xen who wants to do the most cliché a person with power can do. Go out on a journey for conquest with her newly found geth army.

[TK Dude]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...


If the Geth really wanted the  Quarians extinct they would have finished the Job  300 years ago, they did not.   Do you  think that even if   Geth came and offered peace the Quarians would listen i doubt  that. they would likely shot them face on sight. No Your Ire should be directed towards the Council  there is no moral, political, or legal justification to let them wonder like that for 300 years - 15 generations. Its just plan apathy, cruelty and politics. Its not that no one can't help them its that no wants to help them and now  the Quarians are getting to throw away 17 millions lives  all thats left for no reason.   

 

 

The quarians will be extinct in the next century. Mal confirms this.

And believe me. I blame the Council FULLY. If there isn't a damn good ending for saving them, I'm going back, killing them, giving Xen the Geth, and the quarians can rule the damn galaxy with humanity and the Krogan.

That would be a beautiful ending... a brand new Council with the races who were subjugated rising up and taking their place.

I'd love that ending.

Nevermind.

Modifié par TK Dude, 03 août 2010 - 07:41 .

[nitefyre410]

Water Dumple wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Anyone who thinks the Geth are entirely to blame and retaking the homeworld through violence is the only possible outcome needs to remember this.

Most people don't really think that in this thread. Most are for peace.

The quarians are to blame for losing their world.

The geth are responsible for them going extinct.

And I am FULLY in support of peace. Just saying. If for some reason it's impossible in my game, I'm wiping out the geth if necessary.

Agreed; if it must come to war, I'd side with the organics. The problem is that war would be both tragic and catastrophic with peace so close--The Geth "Cannot solve for peace alone," but would be willing to come back "if new data was received that indicated coexistance is possible or desireable for creators." Really, it's about the Quarians understanding that the Geth are now capable of thinking independantly, but without resorting to violence.

 

Sadly that is not going to happen, when you live off hating something for that long you can't just give up and that is where the problem lies.  Quarains  have lived off a hating the Geth for so long that they don't know any other way. 

[Mazder]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
Or, if the option is available, get on the geth's good side and lure them into a battle they cannot win. Against the Reapers.

Japanese suicide charge. I like it.

sorry but this HAS to be done..
BANZAIIII!!!!
...or should it be Keelah SE'LAAAIIIIIIII!!!?

[Water Dumple]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...


If the Geth really wanted the  Quarians extinct they would have finished the Job  300 years ago, they did not.   Do you  think that even if   Geth came and offered peace the Quarians would listen i doubt  that. they would likely shot them face on sight. No Your Ire should be directed towards the Council  there is no moral, political, or legal justification to let them wonder like that for 300 years - 15 generations. Its just plan apathy, cruelty and politics. Its not that no one can't help them its that no wants to help them and now  the Quarians are getting to throw away 17 millions lives  all thats left for no reason.   

 

 

The quarians will be extinct in the next century. Mal confirms this.

And believe me. I blame the Council FULLY. If there isn't a damn good ending for saving them, I'm going back, killing them, giving Xen the Geth, and the quarians can rule the damn galaxy with humanity and the Krogan.

That would be a beautiful ending... a brand new Council with the races who were subjugated rising up and taking their place.

I'd love that ending.

That would actually make a decent replacement for the current Council. Krogan replace Turians for military strength, humans replace Asari for diplomacy, and Quarians replace Salarians for the economic/scientific branch.

[Collider]

The Krogan and the Quarians are not ready for Council positions. Least of all the Krogan.

[nitefyre410]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...


If the Geth really wanted the  Quarians extinct they would have finished the Job  300 years ago, they did not.   Do you  think that even if   Geth came and offered peace the Quarians would listen i doubt  that. they would likely shot them face on sight. No Your Ire should be directed towards the Council  there is no moral, political, or legal justification to let them wonder like that for 300 years - 15 generations. Its just plan apathy, cruelty and politics. Its not that no one can't help them its that no wants to help them and now  the Quarians are getting to throw away 17 millions lives  all thats left for no reason.   

 

 

The quarians will be extinct in the next century. Mal confirms this.

And believe me. I blame the Council FULLY. If there isn't a damn good ending for saving them, I'm going back, killing them, giving Xen the Geth, and the quarians can rule the damn galaxy with humanity and the Krogan.

That would be a beautiful ending... a brand new Council with the races who were subjugated rising up and taking their place.

I'd love that ending.

 

DAMN IT   Rip just when I feel like  we are going to have good debate about something you go and say something likes this and I can't help but to agree with you . 


There is one, its a long shot but its might just work... genetic modify the immune systems... hell we don't even need the Council to do this, it can be all privately funded and I know one Origination  that has pull and backing to do so.  

So are you up for a hostile take over of  Cerberus putting those resources to good use? 

[Mazder]

Collider wrote...

The Krogan and the Quarians are not ready for Council positions. Least of all the Krogan.

Quarians would take too long deciding the wallpaper for their embassy until the reapers come and destroys the citadel and it wouldn't matter anyway...never ever give the Krogan an embassy...there'd be varren all over the Presidium...