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[Kira Shepard]

[quote]Collider wrote...

It's still better than Bioshock. That game practically gives you the options of Jesus Christ or Adolf Hitler.
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Yea. I played that game because of the supposed moral choices..."no two people will play the same..." Sure. The choices were literally, save the baby or eat the baby. Very deep there. Wonder what I'm going to pick.

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I enjoyed Bioshock's gameplay.

[Phil725]

Collider wrote...

I don't think the Quarians even know what they want. They all want a place to live on, and most of them want Rannoch (presumably), but they're conflicted on how. Even the war effort seems to be some sensationalist bullcrap.

I thought it was more along the lines of everyone (Xen doesn't count,) just wanted to return to a normal life.  However, they don't have nearly enough knowledge to make a real decision.  Gerrel thinks they need Rannoch, and that war is the only option, Korris wants to settle elsewhere because peace with the geth is outlandish to them, and they shouldn't be warring them, Shala wants to hold status quo until a better option presents. 

Its why I see Rannoch with no strings attached being so popular.  Korris obviously has a good amount of support to the point that people support peace in spite of reclaiming Rannoch.  Add Rannoch to his view, and now Gerrel's and Shala's supporters are on board as well.

[Collider]

But now they're inability to take action would harm them if they wait long enough. In Ascension, apparently, it is said that within a century the Flotilla will exhaust it's resources.

[Collider]

Phil725 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I don't think the Quarians even know what they want. They all want a place to live on, and most of them want Rannoch (presumably), but they're conflicted on how. Even the war effort seems to be some sensationalist bullcrap.

I thought it was more along the lines of everyone (Xen doesn't count,) just wanted to return to a normal life.

Well what is a normal life? Getting to live somewhere. Most preferably, of course, without their suits.

However, they don't have nearly enough knowledge to make a real decision.  Gerrel thinks they need Rannoch, and that war is the only option, Korris wants to settle elsewhere because peace with the geth is outlandish to them, and they shouldn't be warring them, Shala wants to hold status quo until a better option presents. 

Its why I see Rannoch with no strings attached being so popular.  Korris obviously has a good amount of support to the point that people support peace in spite of reclaiming Rannoch.  Add Rannoch to his view, and now Gerrel's and Shala's supporters are on board as well.

Sounds good.

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[Collider]

Kira Shepard wrote...
I enjoyed Bioshock's gameplay.

It was indeed fun, but I hated that moral choices were advertised but they ended up being so black and white.

Modifié par Collider, 06 août 2010 - 07:19 .

[Snazzy Penguin]

RedTracer7 wrote...

Well, I've found that if you ask a question in the very last line of your "comments" on the bottom of a story, many people try to answer it in their reviews.

I'm just wondering if anyone will even guess what NSA stands for.

Awesome chapter to say the least. Very descriptive and exceptionally well written.

And I'm guessing NSA doesn't stand for the American signals intelligence collection agency.
*Choses to let people think what NSA means as opposed to posting what I'm 99% sure what it means*

[Water Dumple]

RedTracer7 wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

It's still better than Bioshock. That game practically gives you the options of Jesus Christ or Adolf Hitler.

Well, that games different.  In the first one, your actions regarding Ryan (trying not to drop spoilers) corrupt any chance you had of being a "Paragon".  Plus, morality choices don't effect Bioshock.  

In Mass Effect, your choices have a profound impact on how the game plays.

Yes, well, I still found it rather silly. Unfortunately, Bioshock is good, but not at all for the reasons they said it would be.

Anyway...didn't mean to throw things off-topic.

[Phil725]

Collider wrote...

But now they're inability to take action would harm them if they wait long enough. In Ascension, apparently, it is said that within a century the Flotilla will exhaust it's resources.

I assume that as time grows short, they would have to find any possible world to settle down on, maybe worse than Ekuna.  Maybe the council would even stand in their way, and force a last resort charge resulting in the extinction of the quarians.

Let's just say its a good thing that it won't come to that

[RedTracer7]

Snazzy Penguin wrote...

Awesome chapter to say the least. Very descriptive and exceptionally well written.

And I'm guessing NSA doesn't stand for the American signals intelligence collection agency.
*Choses to let people think what NSA means as opposed to posting what I'm 99% sure what it means*

Yeah... I didn't try to hide it that well.

1) Tali gets embarrassed whenever it comes up...
2) Gerrel's final remark....
3) 

Thanks for the compliments, by the way.  I do lurve me some feedback!

[Collider]

The Council certainly contributed, or allowed, the Quarian's plight, but I don't agree with disposing of them. Nor do I agree with the Quarians being put on the Council.

[Kira Shepard]

Collider wrote...

Kira Shepard wrote...
I enjoyed Bioshock's gameplay.

It was indeed fun, but I hated that moral choices were advertised but they ended up being so black and white.

granted in the second game at least they succeeded in making me feel like a diick at first for harvesting the sisters. but the pure evil ending was SO worth it.

[RedTracer7]

Phil725 wrote...

Collider wrote...

But now they're inability to take action would harm them if they wait long enough. In Ascension, apparently, it is said that within a century the Flotilla will exhaust it's resources.

I assume that as time grows short, they would have to find any possible world to settle down on, maybe worse than Ekuna.  Maybe the council would even stand in their way, and force a last resort charge resulting in the extinction of the quarians.

Let's just say its a good thing that it won't come to that

There is that planet, a garden world, that no one wants to live on because the spores there kill anyone who inhales them.  Can't remember the name, but I always thought a planet like that could be the Fleet's "last resort" world to settle, temporarily.  They couldn't remove their suits, but the planet has enough resources for them to survive/re-equip their fleet...

[Phil725]

Collider wrote...
*snip*
Well what is a normal life? Getting to live somewhere. Most preferably, of course, without their suits.

That alone seems to be a contention amongst the quarians.  Gerrel seems to believe that only Rannoch is acceptable, Korris believes any world would support a normal life, and Shala believes that the flotilla is a normal life.  I actually don't see the suits being a huge deal, since 2/3 options don't involve a quick cure.

[Snazzy Penguin]

RedTracer7 wrote...
Yeah... I didn't try to hide it that well.

1) Tali gets embarrassed whenever it comes up...
2) Gerrel's final remark....
3) 

Thanks for the compliments, by the way.  I do lurve me some feedback!

Heh, I did't get it till the end, when it hit me like a brick thrown through my window. I am looking forward to the next two chapters you mentioned in your last bit with MUCH anticipation.

[RedTracer7]

Collider wrote...

The Council certainly contributed, or allowed, the Quarian's plight, but I don't agree with disposing of them. Nor do I agree with the Quarians being put on the Council.

I also don't support Quarians on the Council.  They have lost my trust as a species, although numerous individuals continue to show they are quite useful.

[Collider]

Phil725 wrote...

Collider wrote...
*snip*
Well what is a normal life? Getting to live somewhere. Most preferably, of course, without their suits.

That alone seems to be a contention amongst the quarians.  Gerrel seems to believe that only Rannoch is acceptable, Korris believes any world would support a normal life, and Shala believes that the flotilla is a normal life.  I actually don't see the suits being a huge deal, since 2/3 options don't involve a quick cure.

Either way, they want somewhere to plop their feet on the ground. The thing is the Quarians don't know how to get there. They have goals but any plans seem to be very vague.

[Phil725]

Collider wrote...

The Council certainly contributed, or allowed, the Quarian's plight, but I don't agree with disposing of them. Nor do I agree with the Quarians being put on the Council.

I'm saving judgement until ME3 personally, a lot can change in that time.  Though I will say that I support a system that is more representative of all races' rights.  Not only the ones that play by the big 3's rules, and don't infringe upon them.

[Kira Shepard]

Well I'm outta here and I'll leave you all with the Crazy Awesome image of Tali riding on top of Subject Delta.

[Phil725]

Collider wrote...
*snip*
Either way, they want somewhere to plop their feet on the ground. The thing is the Quarians don't know how to get there. They have goals but any plans seem to be very vague.

It seems to me like they are extremely lucky that the geth are deciding that now is the time to reach out

[Collider]

Phil725 wrote...

Collider wrote...

The Council certainly contributed, or allowed, the Quarian's plight, but I don't agree with disposing of them. Nor do I agree with the Quarians being put on the Council.

I'm saving judgement until ME3 personally, a lot can change in that time.  Though I will say that I support a system that is more representative of all races' rights.  Not only the ones that play by the big 3's rules, and don't infringe upon them.

There's virtually nothing that would convince me that the Quarians should have a council seat (within the frame of time that ME3 will likely take place in). The Salarians, Turians, and Asari have an exponentially larger foothold in the galaxy (well, actually, the Quarians have basically none) and a lot more experience. I am all for the Quarians getting representation on the Citadel, though.

[uhdnrt]

cannedcream wrote...

See, I hated having to put points into Charm and Intimidate. It felt like a waste, especially near the end when I wasn't getting 3 point or 2, but only 1 per level.

  Actually, I personally thought it should have been done through the "specialist" attribute each class gets.  Each point in the specialist allows a new tier (easy, normal, difficult, hard).  And have the 4th tier specialization determine if you unlock charm or intimidate, depending on which build you want to go with.

Would have been the easiest, and would have divorced it almost entirely from the paragon/renegade option.  They could also have simply had [Intimidate] and [Charm] listed for those options.  Then depending on how they chose it, have the resulting conversation give paragon or renegade points as appropriate.  After all, some of the renegade options seemed more like charms, and some of the paragons seemed to be a little bit more intimitade, to me.

I'd also like to see dialogues unlock if you have certain skill sets - so each class would get certain options.  I'd like [Biotic] and [Tech] to open up additional dialogue options as well - although that would give a bit more power to Sentinels in conversations, since they get both.  Or, if you have certain party members available, I'd love it if you could select them to have an impact on conversations.  That would be awesome.

[Phil725]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Collider wrote...
*snip*
Either way, they want somewhere to plop their feet on the ground. The thing is the Quarians don't know how to get there. They have goals but any plans seem to be very vague.

It seems to me like they are extremely lucky that the geth are deciding that now is the time to reach out

Because the 300 year wait was definitely needed.
Unless we are going by my idea a few days ago.
I would be ok with this.

I just mean that the difference between 300 and 500 years to the geth is one hit of the snooze button, for quarians, its life and death.  Unless there's a reason for the sudden reaching out to the quarians, it just seems to fall under good timing and luck to me.