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[nitefyre410]

TTTX wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

TTTX wrote...

feeling a lack of Tali hmm have to think of a topic.

do you think Tali plays BW games?

 

<_<

What?

did I say something wrong?

 

Sorry, I'm just getting a little edgy with the constant postings about staying topic... It feels like everyone is on edgy and we have have to say tali's name in every post  or thread might get   lock even if we have  conversation that in context is still very much Tali related.    

No TTX its nothing you said in general

[Tairis Deamhan]

As long as the discussion is Tali or quarian related you should be fine. Just avoid the meme and picture spam of previous days.

[nitefyre410]

xXRaFFiCaXx wrote...

Topic: If you could break out of the Dialog wheel for one line to say something to Tali that wasn't recorded, when would you do it, and what would you say?

 

hmm it would have to be on the Alerai when you looking for  her father and  she is talking about  how you could never understand what its like not to have a home.  I would have put this in line for my Shepherd sense he is Earthborn sole survivor. 

"You know  I never knew my mother or my father. Hell most likely mom was some junkie and dad  scum bag dealer.  Did not have much of a 'Home'  Well unless consider dumpster and rat infested abandon  warehouse a home. Dinner being someones  else rotted left overs.  I didn't have a home until I found a ship  and crew, they became my home and my family because that where my heart is.  Home is more than just some chuck of rock  floating in space."   
 
*Shepherds  leaves to finish the search* 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:21 .

[TTTX]

nitefyre410 wrote...

TTTX wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

TTTX wrote...

feeling a lack of Tali hmm have to think of a topic.

do you think Tali plays BW games?

 

<_<

What?

did I say something wrong?

 

Sorry, I'm just getting a little edgy with the constant postings about staying topic... It feels like everyone is on edgy and we have have to say tali's name in every post  or thread might get   lock even if we have  conversation that in context is still very much Tali related.    

No TTX its nothing you said in general

point taken (I will try and avoid that as much as possible), indeed we are on edge after the locked down of the last Tali theard.

[nitefyre410]

TTTX wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

TTTX wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

TTTX wrote...

feeling a lack of Tali hmm have to think of a topic.

do you think Tali plays BW games?

 

<_<

What?

did I say something wrong?

 

Sorry, I'm just getting a little edgy with the constant postings about staying topic... It feels like everyone is on edgy and we have have to say tali's name in every post  or thread might get   lock even if we have  conversation that in context is still very much Tali related.    

No TTX its nothing you said in general

point taken (I will try and avoid that as much as possible), indeed we are on edge after the locked down of the last Tali theard.

 

I have been trying not rant about it  so anyways back to the Topic at hand.  

[xXRaFFiCaXx]

NCLanceman wrote...

xXRaFFiCaXx wrote...

Topic: If you could break out of the Dialog wheel for one line to say something to Tali that wasn't recorded, when would you do it, and what would you say?

"Okay, i've just gotta know: do your eyes actually glow, or is it some kind of reflection from the facemask?"

This. This is a great idea.

Theres a few times in this game where I wanted to shout at the game because Shepard didn't say things that I thought he should.

I feel like he should've been willing to discuss Legion's Loyalty mission or the Slave Girl Quarian on Illium more. Her response to these situations made me feel that if Tali had an approval rating, I would have lost alot of points.

[Pacifien]

nitefyre410 wrote...
Thats a good Idea,  and it would be interesting but really most of the topics would  about the immune system and the same arguments repeated again and again.   

I've never had a problem with a forum repeating the same topics over and over again for the various reasons.

1) There will always be new people to the forum who were not around on page 2,000 when the ultimate discussion took place on some topic. Being new, they've never discussed the topic before. They might bring the same old ideas, or they could bring something new. Shutting them down with a "not this again - here, take a look at this archive" seems off-putting.

2) If you're starting to feel you've discussed everything a dozen times over and don't want to see the argument again, maybe it's time to move on. I haven't had much to say about Garrus is weeks, and so my posts in the Garrus thread have been at a minimum.

I specifically jumped onto this thread as soon as it was opened because a Tali thread over 10,000 pages seemed to have become more of a clique with their own standards of what was appropriate to discuss and how to behave on the thread. I'd close down every character thread after a few hundred pages simply to keep the mentality of old and weary at a minimum.

Anyway, antibiotics up next.

[Someone With Mass]

xXRaFFiCaXx wrote...

Topic: If you could break out of the Dialog wheel for one line to say something to Tali that wasn't recorded, when would you do it, and what would you say?

"Tali, if I'm being insensitive, I'm sorry, but I have to know something I've always thought about since you mentioned it. What's your mother's name?"

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:37 .

[Pacifien]

I get pretty critical of the quarians when it comes to the issue of antibiotics. "Swimming in antibiotics" is absolutely the wrong way to go unless we're talking life and death situations here.

Antibiotics aren't painkillers. They fight the bacteria infecting the body. They're even the wrong way to go if your real worry is allergic reaction - then you want an antihistimine or steroid, not an antibiotic. What happens if you are constantly fighting the same bacteria over and over again with the same series of drugs? The bacteria become more resistent, the antibiotics become pointless. You'd have to spend a considerable amount of research constantly finding new methods to attack a bacterial infection.

Antibiotics also do crap for viral infections as well. Viruses are not bacteria, though Tali never seems to mention the threat of viruses to the quarian community.

Now allergic reactions are basically an immune system being overly sensitive to outside stimuli. An increase in the white blood cells attacking the foreign body, an inflammation of, well, everything. Antihistimines block the receptors that instigate the allergic reaction. Steroids reduce inflammation. One method of combating allergic reactions is actually immuno-supressants to reduce the body's sensitivity to to outside stimuli.

Some allergic reactions are so severe, the process to reduce the reaction is long, tedious, and fraught with danger. This can be done, but we're talking half a lifetime or longer. One individual basically made himself a walking antivenom farm after spending years slowly upping injections of a potent snake's venom into his bloodstream. We're talking starting out with a solution at 1:1,000,000 and increasing the ratio over a course of years.

For milder allergic reactions, simple daily exposure is enough to reduce the response. A person who is allergic to a cat might find in a month's time that the cat doesn't seem to affect them anymore. I've known a person who had such a response to a cat that his eyes shut and he was near asthmatic. Threw him out of it for near a week, but he's never had such a bad response to that cat since. Some people go the herbal route, using honey from local bee populations because the pollen remnants in the honey are from the local flora that causes the allergies.

Really, the developers simply have the science wrong. They have the science wrong on dextro/levo reactions as well. Close at times, but not close enough.

Modifié par Pacifien, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:50 .

[LostJ]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

You know? Seeing how many of you ****ed up your first suicide missions, and how I got through mine without a single loss, Tali included, I feel pretty damn good.

This. 

[Someone With Mass]

Pacifien wrote...
*snip*
Antibiotics also do crap for viral infections as well. Viruses are not bacteria, though Tali never seems to mention the threat of viruses to the quarian community.
*snip*

Her mother died of an airbourne virus, but that's because some air filters broke down.

[nitefyre410]

Pacifien wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
Thats a good Idea,  and it would be interesting but really most of the topics would  about the immune system and the same arguments repeated again and again.   

I've never had a problem with a forum repeating the same topics over and over again for the various reasons.

1) There will always be new people to the forum who were not around on page 2,000 when the ultimate discussion took place on some topic. Being new, they've never discussed the topic before. They might bring the same old ideas, or they could bring something new. Shutting them down with a "not this again - here, take a look at this archive" seems off-putting.

2) If you're starting to feel you've discussed everything a dozen times over and don't want to see the argument again, maybe it's time to move on. I haven't had much to say about Garrus is weeks, and so my posts in the Garrus thread have been at a minimum.

I specifically jumped onto this thread as soon as it was opened because a Tali thread over 10,000 pages seemed to have become more of a clique with their own standards of what was appropriate to discuss and how to behave on the thread. I'd close down every character thread after a few hundred pages simply to keep the mentality of old and weary at a minimum.

Anyway, antibiotics up next.

  

I agree with you, it was more the same arguments by the same people that really tiring me out.   

Anyways antibiotics , great stuff. I have for  one  am looking to  take my writers hammer of solving impossible problems + 20 to  the Quarian immune system   issue.  I  starting to think that fixing their immune systems and giving a Tali a life outside her suit would be  far more gratifying than  giving back the home world 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:54 .

[Lia-Vael nar Ulnay]

Seth Burns wrote...

So. I hear that Tali Zorah is a pretty cool person. That one Quarian who was framed as stealing that Volus' credit chit in the Citadel told me that.

You're welcome.

[Someone With Mass]

LostJ wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

You know? Seeing how many of you ****ed up your first suicide missions, and how I got through mine without a single loss, Tali included, I feel pretty damn good.

This. 

Same here.

It's hard to lose someone if you follow the recommendations and listen to what everyone needs.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:59 .

[TTTX]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

You know? Seeing how many of you ****ed up your first suicide missions, and how I got through mine without a single loss, Tali included, I feel pretty damn good.

you too?

Tali is the more improten one to save along with Garrus.

[Primordial Breath]

TTTX wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

You know? Seeing how many of you ****ed up your first suicide missions, and how I got through mine without a single loss, Tali included, I feel pretty damn good.

you too?

Tali is the more improten one to save along with Garrus.

In mine only Miranda died, because I sided with Jack in their little argument.

[nitefyre410]

Someone With Mass wrote...

LostJ wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

You know? Seeing how many of you ****ed up your first suicide missions, and how I got through mine without a single loss, Tali included, I feel pretty damn good.

This. 

Same here.

It's hard to lose someone if you follow the recommendations and listen to what everyone needs.

  

Keyword in that statement a  skill that most people are lacking in ... 

Well matters not  after I few Tries I am part of the  No man Left behind crew.   Tali survived all my play through's that was mandatory 

[Pacifien]

LostJ wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
You know? Seeing how many of you ****ed up your first suicide missions, and how I got through mine without a single loss, Tali included, I feel pretty damn good.

This. 

Personally think it's far more of an achievement to get everyone killed, 'cause believe me, that is not easy. And I'd have to look at my notes, but I believe it's actually impossible to achieve with all 12 squadmates. I'm going to dig out those notes now, in fact.

Though I think the idea I purposely killed Tali horrifies some people here. Even if I did it all... FOR SCIENCE!

[TTTX]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
*snip*
Antibiotics also do crap for viral infections as well. Viruses are not bacteria, though Tali never seems to mention the threat of viruses to the quarian community.
*snip*

Her mother died of an airbourne virus, but that's because some air filters broke down.

which is why they keep their ships very clean.

you have to feel sorry for quarians they have lost so much we take for granted.

[Pacifien]

Someone With Mass wrote...
Her mother died of an airbourne virus, but that's because some air filters broke down.

Wonder if her mother was taken out by the common cold. Which I'm sure will still lack a sufficient antivirus two hundred years in the future.

[nitefyre410]

xXRaFFiCaXx wrote...

NCLanceman wrote...

xXRaFFiCaXx wrote...

Topic: If you could break out of the Dialog wheel for one line to say something to Tali that wasn't recorded, when would you do it, and what would you say?

"Okay, i've just gotta know: do your eyes actually glow, or is it some kind of reflection from the facemask?"

This. This is a great idea.

Theres a few times in this game where I wanted to shout at the game because Shepard didn't say things that I thought he should.

I feel like he should've been willing to discuss Legion's Loyalty mission or the Slave Girl Quarian on Illium more. Her response to these situations made me feel that if Tali had an approval rating, I would have lost alot of points.

 

hmm it would have to be on the Alerai when you looking for  her father and  she is talking about  how you could never understand what its like not to have a home.  I would have put this in line for my Shepherd sense he is Earthborn sole survivor. 

"You know  I never knew my mother or my father. Hell most likely mom was some junkie and dad  scum bag dealer.  Did not have much of a 'Home'  Well unless consider dumpster and rat infested abandon  warehouse a home. Dinner being someones  else rotted left overs.  I didn't have a home until I found a ship  and crew, they became my home and my family because that where my heart is.  Home is more than just some chuck of rock  floating in space."   
 
*Shepherds  leaves to finish the search*    


I always felt that earthborn Shepherd would have unique way of looking at Tali situation  given his band ground of not having a family or a home.

[jtav]

I kill Tali fairly often. She, Legion, and Mordin are the characters who have the most potential for impact on the game world, which means their loss should matter more than, say, Jack's.

[Pacifien]

Hey, at least my science is the reason I could tell people exactly what they need to do if they wanted only Tali and Garrus to live.