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[JeanLuc761]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Collider wrote...

I certainly wouldn't mind switching game discs. Only takes a second.

They didn't even take full use of it, either. Just so the average spoiled brat wouldn't have to lift his fat ass to change the discs more than two times.

Meh, I thought it worked out just fine.  PC version doesn't need disc swapping and, in context, it makes sense to recruit Tali later (given the Illusive Man's reservations against her).

[Andaius20]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Savakka1 wrote...
Tali had so much hidden dialogue that it is alredy criminal. Glad I have ME2 for PC

Makes one think what the hell BioWare were thinking. If they were thinking at all. They made it so unnecessarily complicated, and cornered themselves with some characters.

Actually, they made it very simple.
"We have to put the game on two DVD's for the Xbox version so let's lock the second set of dossiers to the second disc.  Problem solved!"

[Andaius20]

Hey folks, anything of note I missed in he last 40 pages or so?

[Andaius20]

Tali booty shot

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Andaius20 wrote...

Hey folks, anything of note I missed in he last 40 pages or so?

My hangover is finally gone!

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Cool I killed the thread!

[Someone With Mass]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Meh, I thought it worked out just fine.  PC version doesn't need disc swapping and, in context, it makes sense to recruit Tali later (given the Illusive Man's reservations against her).

It's also called lazy writting/poor planning, because I'm not buying the "it's because he doesn't trust aliens" excuse. He picked a guy named "Archangel" who he had next to no information on instead of Tali, who was clearly willing to help Shepard.


See what I mean?

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 07 août 2010 - 02:07 .

[Andaius20]

[Collider]

It's also called lazy writting/poor planning, because I'm not buying the "it's because he doesn't trust aliens" excuse. He picked a guy named "Archangel" who he had next to no information on instead of Tali, who was clearly willing to help Shepard.

Well it would be a little weird to finish Freedom's Progress and then go recruit Tali immediately afterwards and she's somehow already on Haestrom, lol.

[JeanLuc761]

Someone With Mass wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Meh, I thought it worked out just fine.  PC version doesn't need disc swapping and, in context, it makes sense to recruit Tali later (given the Illusive Man's reservations against her).

It's also called lazy writting/poor planning, because I'm not buying the "it's because he doesn't trust aliens" excuse. He picked a guy named "Archangel" who he had next to no information on instead of Tali, who was clearly willing to help Shepard.

See what I mean?

I wasn't saying it was "because he doesn't trust aliens." He doesn't know about HER.  Period.  Couple that with the Cerberus operations on the Migrant Fleet and I can understand his hesitation.

Regardless, I didn't see it as poor writing; I actually thought it improved the flow of the game considerably to have Tali join up in the second half.  It held much more impact for me to have Tali's loyalty mission near the end of the game then suddenly run into a geth that wanted to help.  If I had done Tali's loyalty mission just after Horizion or something I would have felt like something was off.

[Collider]

JL has a point. I still kind of miss not being able to take Tali to Garrus' recruitment though.

[JeanLuc761]

Collider wrote...

JL has a point. I still kind of miss not being able to take Tali to Garrus' recruitment though.

I actually liked that I couldn't have Tali with me when I went to find Garrus.  It was badassery at its finest to run into an old friend like that.

[Andaius20]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Meh, I thought it worked out just fine.  PC version doesn't need disc swapping and, in context, it makes sense to recruit Tali later (given the Illusive Man's reservations against her).

It's also called lazy writting/poor planning, because I'm not buying the "it's because he doesn't trust aliens" excuse. He picked a guy named "Archangel" who he had next to no information on instead of Tali, who was clearly willing to help Shepard.

See what I mean?

I wasn't saying it was "because he doesn't trust aliens." He doesn't know about HER.  Period.  Couple that with the Cerberus operations on the Migrant Fleet and I can understand his hesitation.

Regardless, I didn't see it as poor writing; I actually thought it improved the flow of the game considerably to have Tali join up in the second half.  It held much more impact for me to have Tali's loyalty mission near the end of the game then suddenly run into a geth that wanted to help.  If I had done Tali's loyalty mission just after Horizion or something I would have felt like something was off.

IT does work out in that reguard, but in reality the time distortion makes it possible to do the "back to back missions" too. Since for instance Joker mentions it takes you liek what 4 hours to fly to the omega 4 relay? plus you spend "weeks" inbetween missions flying around I think.

[TTTX]

Someone With Mass wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Meh, I thought it worked out just fine.  PC version doesn't need disc swapping and, in context, it makes sense to recruit Tali later (given the Illusive Man's reservations against her).

It's also called lazy writting/poor planning, because I'm not buying the "it's because he doesn't trust aliens" excuse. He picked a guy named "Archangel" who he had next to no information on instead of Tali, who was clearly willing to help Shepard.

*snip'
See what I mean?

indeed I do see what you mean.

I also wonder who came up with with the idea to put Legion so late in the game, well let's face it's one of the stupides idea to put him so late in the game.

[Someone With Mass]

Collider wrote...

It's also called lazy writting/poor planning, because I'm not buying the "it's because he doesn't trust aliens" excuse. He picked a guy named "Archangel" who he had next to no information on instead of Tali, who was clearly willing to help Shepard.

Well it would be a little weird to finish Freedom's Progress and then go recruit Tali immediately afterwards and she's somehow already on Haestrom, lol.

And yet, no one questions how we can travel across the galaxy in the blink of an eye, while in the books it takes hours, if not days.

[Andaius20]

Collider wrote...

JL has a point. I still kind of miss not being able to take Tali to Garrus' recruitment though.

they have a cool little convo.

[Kikaimegami]

TTTX wrote...

I also wonder who came up with with the idea to put Legion so late in the game, well let's face it's one of the stupides idea to put him so late in the game.

Whoever it was, I will find them. And kick them in the shin. Really hard.

Thank god for save editors

[JeanLuc761]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Collider wrote...

It's also called lazy writting/poor planning, because I'm not buying the "it's because he doesn't trust aliens" excuse. He picked a guy named "Archangel" who he had next to no information on instead of Tali, who was clearly willing to help Shepard.

Well it would be a little weird to finish Freedom's Progress and then go recruit Tali immediately afterwards and she's somehow already on Haestrom, lol.

And yet, no one questions how we can travel across the galaxy in the blink of an eye, while in the books it takes hours, if not days.

It's all about game flow.  If we went to go grab Tali immediately after she told us "I wish I could go but I have a mission to take care of," it would have been horrifically bad pacing.

[Kikaimegami]

Someone With Mass wrote...

And yet, no one questions how we can travel across the galaxy in the blink of an eye, while in the books it takes hours, if not days.

It's implied, but not shown. Look at how you have "two hours" bedore the Suicide Mission--it's shown then because there's a reason to.

[JeanLuc761]

mrsph wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if they just simply had no idea where to put Legion to recruit.

I can't think of a better location for him to be than the Reaper ship.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

And yet, no one questions how we can travel across the galaxy in the blink of an eye, while in the books it takes hours, if not days.

It's implied, but not shown. Look at how you have "two hours" bedore the Suicide Mission--it's shown then because there's a reason to.

Kikai.

[Kikaimegami]

mrsph wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if they just simply had no idea where to put Legion to recruit.

It actually has to do with disc space on the 360, but I'd have preferred to be able to recruit him sooner in favor of one of the other characters. Grunt, perhaps (since the rest in that recruitment batch are either doubled to hubs (Garrus and Mordin, or Samara and Thane) or a love interest (Jack)).