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[Savakka1]

Mobius_118 wrote...
Building sympathy for the devil, so to speak.

And he is doing a good job with it. I can't even count how many times I have thought: "Poor Xen" during his FF.

And Xen isn't all evil, especially in her own eyes.

[TTTX]

Savakka1 wrote...

TTTX wrote...

Collider wrote...

Can't be blamed for something your ancestors did.

some humans do, even today.

It still doesn't make it justfied.

I never said I agreed with it.

I have learned sometimes you have to let things go.

[Mobius_118]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Mobius_118 wrote...
Building sympathy for the devil, so to speak.

Not everyone disagrees with her ideals.

Same with the devil.

I'm on the fence about her plans. If she pulls reaper indoctrination, I'll have no choice but to send a Mattock round through her face.

If it builds an army that can stop the Reapers, then hell...give it some wiggle room.

[Collider]

And Xen isn't all evil, especially in her own eyes.

No one thinks of themselves as evil. I would say that wanting to enslave a sapient race is plenty evil and immoral.

[Lividity Jones]

Collider wrote...

And Xen isn't all evil, especially in her own eyes.

No one thinks of themselves as evil. I would say that wanting to enslave a sapient race is plenty evil and immoral.

And the fact that she doesn't think this at all doesn't make you the least bit intrigued as to how she came to that extreme conclusion?

[Collider]

Mukora wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...
Which is boring.

The creation of the fic sprung from the desire to see her fulfill her potential as a character and as an antagonist.

The real challenge here is to get her from point A to point B.

Still doesn't mean I'll feel sorry for shooting Xen in ME3.

Agreed.

[Lividity Jones]

Mukora wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...
Which is boring.

The creation of the fic sprung from the desire to see her fulfill her potential as a character and as an antagonist.

The real challenge here is to get her from point A to point B.

Still doesn't mean I'll feel sorry for shooting Xen in ME3.

*shrug*

Whatever.

Do what you want.

I don't give a ****.

[TTTX]

Collider wrote...

TTTX wrote...

mrsph wrote...
I highly doubt every quarian knew about the geth's sentience. It would be a pretty bad day if your butler-bot just turned on you for no reason.

the quarians attacked first Tali say this.

That doesn't mean everyone did it.

in war no side is free of flaws and that's a fact.

[Savakka1]

Collider wrote...

Mukora wrote...
Still doesn't mean I'll feel sorry for shooting Xen in ME3.

Agreed.

It depends on how well she is fleshed out in ME3. Then I'll see if I feel sorry.

[Collider]

Lividity Jones wrote...

Collider wrote...

And Xen isn't all evil, especially in her own eyes.

No one thinks of themselves as evil. I would say that wanting to enslave a sapient race is plenty evil and immoral.

And the fact that she doesn't think this at all doesn't make you the least bit intrigued as to how she came to that extreme conclusion?

No, because no one thinks of themselves as evil. So she's not special. I'm not intrigued because the game does not give me a reason to. I am about as interested in why she has her ideas as I am interested in why Harbinger has his ideas. She's a one dimensional villain right now.

[Lividity Jones]

Collider wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

Collider wrote...

And Xen isn't all evil, especially in her own eyes.

No one thinks of themselves as evil. I would say that wanting to enslave a sapient race is plenty evil and immoral.

And the fact that she doesn't think this at all doesn't make you the least bit intrigued as to how she came to that extreme conclusion?

No, because no one thinks of themselves as evil. So she's not special. I'm not intrigued because the game does not give me a reason to. I am about as interested in why she has her ideas as I am interested in why Harbinger has his ideas. She's a one dimensional villain right now.

So I'm at fault for asking a little depth from my villains?

[Collider]

Lividity Jones wrote...

Collider wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

Collider wrote...

And Xen isn't all evil, especially in her own eyes.

No one thinks of themselves as evil. I would say that wanting to enslave a sapient race is plenty evil and immoral.

And the fact that she doesn't think this at all doesn't make you the least bit intrigued as to how she came to that extreme conclusion?

No, because no one thinks of themselves as evil. So she's not special. I'm not intrigued because the game does not give me a reason to. I am about as interested in why she has her ideas as I am interested in why Harbinger has his ideas. She's a one dimensional villain right now.

So I'm at fault for asking a little depth from my villains?

Nope. I would agree that they need more depth.

[Lividity Jones]

Mukora wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...
*shrug*
Whatever.
Do what you want.
I don't give a ****.

But... that contradicts your reasining for writing Reckoning...

Let me specify.

I don't give a **** what you think, because you don't even bother reading it and would rather sit around questioning the necessity of fleshing out a character.

[TTTX]

Savakka1 wrote...

Mobius_118 wrote...
Building sympathy for the devil, so to speak.

And he is doing a good job with it. I can't even count how many times I have thought: "Poor Xen" during his FF.

And Xen isn't all evil, especially in her own eyes.

many dictators never saw themselvs as evil like Stalin or Hitler but we all know what they did.

[Mobius_118]

Mukora wrote...

Mobius_118 wrote...
Same with the devil.

What are the devil's ideals, exactly?

Go with the bible's thing? He wanted Adam and Eve to have knowledge. To give pleasure to all the humans in the world. Lucifer was actually against god's domination of mans world.

But I'm NOT getting into a religious debate. It's pointless, because it's all BS anyway, and it only causes havoc.

[Lividity Jones]

Mukora wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...
Let me specify.

I don't give a **** what you think, because you don't even bother reading it and would rather sit around questioning the necessity of fleshing out a character.

I... have read it. what are you talking about?

Hm.

My apologies.

I was operating under false pretenses.

[Mobius_118]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Mobius_118 wrote...

Do not go there.

Evading topic as we speak. I'd rather not delve into such a touchy subject. I'm rather incendiary about it.

[Collider]

We can possibly continue the Bible discussion here, otherwise since it's a touchy subject we should probably drop it.