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General Ashous wrote...

I think the start of ME3 will be Shepard devising a plan on how to stop the Reapers and thus Shepard would probably consult his squad. That means Tali would most likely be there. Also, she said herself she doesn't think she'd be a good admiral, though I disagree.

she would be a great admiral and I think she can be an admiral and squatemate at same time.

after all nothing say's she has to be on the fleet when she's an admiral.

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Calinstel wrote...

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General Ashous wrote...

I think the start of ME3 will be Shepard devising a plan on how to stop the Reapers and thus Shepard would probably consult his squad. That means Tali would most likely be there. Also, she said herself she doesn't think she'd be a good admiral, though I disagree.


Agreed with devising a plan.  I see ME3 beginning right where ME2 left off.  Full team, ready to go start preparing for the reapers.  If there is a time lapse between ME2/3, Bioware had better come up with a really good explanation for it.  Random vacation excuse won't cut it.

Sure Tali would make a good admiral, since not supporting the quarians dying in flames is all it takes apparently.  That said, I don't see how she has the credentials or prestige needed to be elected.  A position on the admirality board isn't something that people two years removed from their pilgrimages earn.  On top of that, there's the whole issue of her possibly being exiled hanging over the entire thing.  I always interpreted that conversation as Tali stressing that the quarians were putting forward anyone's name for the spot, using her own name to stress how even the most outlandish example was being thrown around. 

All that said, no way she accepts the position anyway if it will take her off the Normandy.  She can do more good for the quarians/the galaxy from there, and she knows it.

What you say makes perfect sense.  That's what worries me since what they did to ME1 people did not.

The game SHOULD start actually still near the collectors base as it explodes, WITH a damaged ship and not the repaired one they showed.
The only reason you should need more crew is if you were lazy and didn't do the loyalty missions that were rather simple (well, except the tear jerker of Tali's) but this is BW.  I fear.

if I know BW they probaly have anuthor start for ME3, one we won't expect.

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Calinstel wrote...
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What you say makes perfect sense.  That's what worries me since what they did to ME1 people did not.

The game SHOULD start actually still near the collectors base as it explodes, WITH a damaged ship and not the repaired one they showed.
The only reason you should need more crew is if you were lazy and didn't do the loyalty missions that were rather simple (well, except the tear jerker of Tali's) but this is BW.  I fear.


Even if you purposely killed off as many people as possible, you still are forced to have two live, and then you get Liara and Ashley/Kaidan back.  You could play through all of ME1 with only 4 squad mates.  No additional crew necessary.  Unless you were referring to the ME1 people in general.

The thing people forget about the ME1 characters is that Bioware didn't do it because they had no reason, just that the reason wasn't great.  They wanted to preserve Liara and A/K for their role in ME3, therefore, it was either plot armor them up as squad mates, or have them do their own thing for a game. 

There is not a single feasible reason that I could think of for not bringing the ME2 characters back again.  Preserve their role for ME4?  Desire to introduce a new cast?  Nothing makes sense.  And just to pre-emptively mention, "They can die," is not a reason.  That just means that they can't play plot integral roles.

I really don't know how this became a major concern, its like people haven't taken any time at all to look at the reasoning behind potential decisions.  We should be worried about actually possible things, like Bioware limiting the character involvement too much in favor of the story, botching the romance, or just messing up her character in general.  These things are a lot more likely than her not being a squad mate.  Not sure if that's good or bad :?

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Phil725 wrote...

Calinstel wrote...
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What you say makes perfect sense.  That's what worries me since what they did to ME1 people did not.

The game SHOULD start actually still near the collectors base as it explodes, WITH a damaged ship and not the repaired one they showed.
The only reason you should need more crew is if you were lazy and didn't do the loyalty missions that were rather simple (well, except the tear jerker of Tali's) but this is BW.  I fear.


Even if you purposely killed off as many people as possible, you still are forced to have two live, and then you get Liara and Ashley/Kaidan back.  You could play through all of ME1 with only 4 squad mates.  No additional crew necessary.  Unless you were referring to the ME1 people in general.

The thing people forget about the ME1 characters is that Bioware didn't do it because they had no reason, just that the reason wasn't great.  They wanted to preserve Liara and A/K for their role in ME3, therefore, it was either plot armor them up as squad mates, or have them do their own thing for a game. 

There is not a single feasible reason that I could think of for not bringing the ME2 characters back again.  Preserve their role for ME4?  Desire to introduce a new cast?  Nothing makes sense.  And just to pre-emptively mention, "They can die," is not a reason.  That just means that they can't play plot integral roles.

I really don't know how this became a major concern, its like people haven't taken any time at all to look at the reasoning behind potential decisions.  We should be worried about actually possible things, like Bioware limiting the character involvement too much in favor of the story, botching the romance, or just messing up her character in general.  These things are a lot more likely than her not being a squad mate.  Not sure if that's good or bad :?

I think since most of the game probaly goes about recuting everyone in the galaxy, you should have at least one of every species on board the Normandy not nesarserly as squatemates but as NPCs.

but I would like a batarian squtemate.

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Phil725 wrote...

Calinstel wrote...
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What you say makes perfect sense.  That's what worries me since what they did to ME1 people did not.

The game SHOULD start actually still near the collectors base as it explodes, WITH a damaged ship and not the repaired one they showed.
The only reason you should need more crew is if you were lazy and didn't do the loyalty missions that were rather simple (well, except the tear jerker of Tali's) but this is BW.  I fear.


Even if you purposely killed off as many people as possible, you still are forced to have two live, and then you get Liara and Ashley/Kaidan back.  You could play through all of ME1 with only 4 squad mates.  No additional crew necessary.  Unless you were referring to the ME1 people in general.

The thing people forget about the ME1 characters is that Bioware didn't do it because they had no reason, just that the reason wasn't great.  They wanted to preserve Liara and A/K for their role in ME3, therefore, it was either plot armor them up as squad mates, or have them do their own thing for a game. 

There is not a single feasible reason that I could think of for not bringing the ME2 characters back again.  Preserve their role for ME4?  Desire to introduce a new cast?  Nothing makes sense.  And just to pre-emptively mention, "They can die," is not a reason.  That just means that they can't play plot integral roles.

I really don't know how this became a major concern, its like people haven't taken any time at all to look at the reasoning behind potential decisions.  We should be worried about actually possible things, like Bioware limiting the character involvement too much in favor of the story, botching the romance, or just messing up her character in general.  These things are a lot more likely than her not being a squad mate.  Not sure if that's good or bad :?

Oh, I hear your argument and I whole heartedly agree with it, but before ME2 came out I actually had been looking to forwarding the LI interest from 1.  Is it needed for the game? No.  Does it add to it, yes and we saw how they butchered that.
ME3 must center around large scale combat and as such Shepard could literally be by himself.
Anyway, off topic so I shall shutup and just say.

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this sunday sucks, it rains, the thread is slow, I guess I will work on my 8.5 chapter.

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slow again chaps?

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BioWare seem to have learned what pisses people off, though.



That said, they should improve the romance (or the overall) dialogue for the people aboard the ship.



Some things that Shepard said to Tali provoked a response that I didn't expect or didn't see fitting at that moment.



Like that "I don't think I could live inside a suit my whole life" which made Tali talk about more intimate things. I can see the way Shepard tried to put it, like in a sympathetic way, but the words were poorly picked, because I don't think a normal person would answer that the way Tali did.



But, what do I know?

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Good morning, people!



Anything new lately? Any inspirational comments? I need to get started on writing short-fics again...preferably ShepZorah related d'awwness...

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Damn, thread's slow right now, why do I always come on when this happens?

Oh well, some stuff from dA:
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"You know I can hear you."

These two are not really related to Tali, but more to the general behavior of Talimancers. (Or so I presume, based on my own)
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Thundertactics wrote...

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Searching for hot quarians on the extranet when you have one on your ship.

Heavy risk...

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Thundertactics wrote...
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You humans are all racist!

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Thundertactics wrote...


Searching for hot quarians on the extranet when you have one on your ship.

Heavy risk...



...And it was totally worth it.:devil:

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Someone With Mass wrote...

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Searching for hot quarians on the extranet when you have one on your ship.

Heavy risk...

have to say this, even though I don't want to.

But the Priiiiize.

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Wonder if Shepard will take Tali to the new fall lineup of suits this cycle. See what's coming up for the latest in quarian suit accessories.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Thundertactics wrote...

*Shnip*


Searching for hot quarians on the extranet when you have one on your ship.

Heavy risk...


But the priiiiiize...

Aint worth it. Rather go for the real one down in Engineering who's had the interest for 2 years.

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Calinstel wrote...

Wonder if Shepard will take Tali to the new fall lineup of suits this cycle. See what's coming up for the latest in quarian suit accessories.

I think so, he want to make sure she has the best suit avilable.

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Phil725 wrote...
Agreed with devising a plan.  I see ME3 beginning right where ME2 left off.  Full team, ready to go start preparing for the reapers.  If there is a time lapse between ME2/3, Bioware had better come up with a really good explanation for it.  Random vacation excuse won't cut it.


But let's suppose it takes a couple more years for the Reapers to arrive.  This brings up the question - what does the crew do during that two years?

I guess we could have a bunch of missions...but they would represent a way to spend time before anything happened, would they not?

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Calinstel wrote...

Wonder if Shepard will take Tali to the new fall lineup of suits this cycle. See what's coming up for the latest in quarian suit accessories.


Who knows, maybe they have the latest air filters installed.Posted Image

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Skadhi1 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
Agreed with devising a plan.  I see ME3 beginning right where ME2 left off.  Full team, ready to go start preparing for the reapers.  If there is a time lapse between ME2/3, Bioware had better come up with a really good explanation for it.  Random vacation excuse won't cut it.


But let's suppose it takes a couple more years for the Reapers to arrive.  This brings up the question - what does the crew do during that two years?

I guess we could have a bunch of missions...but they would represent a way to spend time before anything happened, would they not?


That's probably going to be the purpose of DLC. Flesh out the time between 2 and 3.

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Mobius_118 wrote...

Skadhi1 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
Agreed with devising a plan.  I see ME3 beginning right where ME2 left off.  Full team, ready to go start preparing for the reapers.  If there is a time lapse between ME2/3, Bioware had better come up with a really good explanation for it.  Random vacation excuse won't cut it.


But let's suppose it takes a couple more years for the Reapers to arrive.  This brings up the question - what does the crew do during that two years?

I guess we could have a bunch of missions...but they would represent a way to spend time before anything happened, would they not?


That's probably going to be the purpose of DLC. Flesh out the time between 2 and 3.

i thought the 2-3 years before the reaper arrival was to rally the entire galaxy against the reaper threat. i can see either DLC missions or story missions happening for that

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Thundertactics wrote...

Damn, thread's slow right now, why do I always come on when this happens?

Oh well, some stuff from dA:
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Tali: May I ask what's wrong with being dressed like a quarian? You're not exactly looking like the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Kasumi: Maybe we should throw our own party, and steal all his guests... 

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Or they'll have more books and comics in between...



Depressing thought: the kill off some of your comrades in the next comic, simply out of spite.

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Kalashnikov wrote...

Mobius_118 wrote...

Skadhi1 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
Agreed with devising a plan.  I see ME3 beginning right where ME2 left off.  Full team, ready to go start preparing for the reapers.  If there is a time lapse between ME2/3, Bioware had better come up with a really good explanation for it.  Random vacation excuse won't cut it.


But let's suppose it takes a couple more years for the Reapers to arrive.  This brings up the question - what does the crew do during that two years?

I guess we could have a bunch of missions...but they would represent a way to spend time before anything happened, would they not?


That's probably going to be the purpose of DLC. Flesh out the time between 2 and 3.

i thought the 2-3 years before the reaper arrival was to rally the entire galaxy against the reaper threat. i can see either DLC missions or story missions happening for that

hopefully not as DLC I rather have some good dialog rather then DLC dialog, where your team mates say nothing at all.

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Skadhi1 wrote...

But let's suppose it takes a couple more years for the Reapers to arrive.  This brings up the question - what does the crew do during that two years?

I guess we could have a bunch of missions...but they would represent a way to spend time before anything happened, would they not?


Guess we gotta have a montage.Posted Image