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[Dragoon292929]

Im trying to beat Howe and have failed repeatedly. I need some help. I have Leliana, Morrigan, and Zevran. Also I am a Level 16 Human Warrior that uses 2 hd dragonbone axe, and I am a berserker/Champion. Zevran is lvl 15 with 2 1hd swords. Leliana is lvl 15 and has 2 red steel daggers and majorlaine's bow. Morrigan is lvl 15 with full in shapeshifter, and has up to Cone of cold, Tempest, and sleep.
Also, this is my first playthrough, and its on easy.

[xxprokillazxx]

i had the same problem try to have as much health potions as posible and on ur way to arl howe dont open any doors. when you fight him always go for the mage kill him first and the arl should be easy to kill

[Dragoon292929]

I dont have that many pultices on me, is it possible to leave the area and go to camp to buy some?

Modifié par Dragoon292929, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:03 .

[TJPags]

You're on easy - tempest and any other area spell is your friend. If Morri has fireball, use it liberally. If Zev has grenades, use those liberally as well.



I'll also add, that's really not an optimal party. Zev is a nice 3rd fighter, but I'd bring another tank with you for that, especially since your a 2h warrior - I find the slow attacks of a 2h are a bigger minus then the extra damage is a plus. Try replacing Zev or Leli with Alistair.

[Dragoon292929]

It also doesnt help what so ever that Arl Howe is immune to ALL BLOODY SPELLS.

[xxprokillazxx]

i dont remember if you could leave but if ur low on health potions i sugest going to morrigan she can make some or do wat i told go in get the mage first then concentrate everithing on howe

[TJPags]

Dragoon292929 wrote...

It also doesnt help what so ever that Arl Howe is immune to ALL BLOODY SPELLS.

He's not the biggest problem - you can avoid him, and he's not a very hard boss IMO.  Take out the mage and the archers, then his melee buddies with the area effect spells.  Target that mage, and like I said - fireball is your friend on easy.

[nikki191]

i always find casting forcefield on the character being targeted is very helpful. the bigbad keeps pounding on them but cant do any damage

[TJPags]

nikki191 wrote...

i always find casting forcefield on the character being targeted is very helpful. the bigbad keeps pounding on them but cant do any damage

I never use that on my own party, since they can't fight while it's on.  It protects them yes, but takes them out of the fight.

I do, however, like to target enemy mages with it - stops them from interfering while I kill everyone else, then 1 mage v full party = no contest.

[Dragoon292929]

meh, gonna go back to an earlier save and travel around till im completely stocked on potions and whatnot

[Dragoon292929]

who would best compliment me, alistair and morrigan in this encounter?

[lizzbee]

Arl Howe may be immune to spells, but he's stunnable. But you'd be better off sending Zev and Leliana each after a mage and stun them with Dirty Fighting. If you have Momentum for either Zev or Leliana, use it, and the mages will be down in no time with hyperspeed backstabs, especially on easy. Then take down the archers next. I'm going to have to disagree on Zevran being a bad choice-- he saved my 2-hander's rear too many times to count, and with decent armor, he hardly ever takes damage.

[TJPags]

Oh, Zev's fine as a third, but for tough fights, you need a second warrior.

For melee fighting, I much prefer Zev to Leli, who I usually spec as an archer.  Many's the time Zev was the last one standing if I found myself in an unexpected encounter.

Modifié par TJPags, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:22 .

[Dragoon292929]

just realized that shapeshifter NPCs are a pain

[balmung03]

TJPags wrote...

nikki191 wrote...

i always find casting forcefield on the character being targeted is very helpful. the bigbad keeps pounding on them but cant do any damage

I never use that on my own party, since they can't fight while it's on.  It protects them yes, but takes them out of the fight.

I do, however, like to target enemy mages with it - stops them from interfering while I kill everyone else, then 1 mage v full party = no contest.

Force Field on your own party members usually isn't a good idea, except for in two situations that I can think of.
1) The party member in question is close to death.  Obviously, this allows for a large window of time to cast healing spells.
2) Cast Force Field on your tank after taunting, then follow it up with Crushing Prison (spell combo shockwave) to damage and knockback your enemies.  If you have a 2nd mage, try having them queue up tempest/blizzard/inferno for some real fun.

Though for this fight, I find that Force Field is best used on either Howe or one of the mages.  Incapacitating one of the mages allows for you to whale on the other, while immobilizing Howe prevents him from backstabbing you while you concentrate on the mages.  Both tactics work equally well.

Other good spells to use in the fight are Paralyze and/or Glyph of Paralysis.  Both are obtained quite easily (GoP requiring no prerequisite spells), and can be used on any of the enemies in the fight.  As for the comment earlier about Howe was resisting spells, which spells was he resisting?  Most likely the cause there is that your spellpower is too low, as I've never seen him resist my spells.

[Elhanan]

He can be Knocked down via Stone Fist, Shield Bash, etc, and the cone spells (esp Cold) are great when he is in the shadows. But I rarely am less than 20th when meeting him with my mages; if ever. Just do not turn your back to his known location.

I find it best to take out the mages early, then the lesser guards, leaving Howe to last.

[G_Admiral_Thrawn]

I never had a problem with him. Mana Clash the Mage, and if you have a Blood Mage (or 2), Blood Wound everyone else.

[Mercuriol]

Well your main problem is that you have a really bad party. Basicly what you need is a tank: a warrior who uses a shield and has talents there and in the talents that make enemies concentrate on him. Also unless you want to keep using loads of potions (although I don't know if you need many on easy), you want a mage with some healing talents.

[mousestalker]

If you get Ali, set him up as an aggro magnet with taunt and such. Equip him as best you can. You said Morrigan has sleep. She can sleep the whole room. She should do that first. Howe will resist and possibly one or both of the mages, but that should whittle the opposition down. Alistair should attack Howe. Micro manage him so that Howe stays on Alistair. The other three take out the other in NPC's in this order: The mages, then the grunts. Attack the nps's that are awake before you attack the ones that are asleep. Only attack one at a time, so they go down fast. Once everyone who is not named Arl Rendon Howe are dead, all of your surviving party attacks Howe. With three or four opponents he should go down pretty fast.



If Alistair is catching too much grief, Morrigan should use Cone of Cold on Howe to give him some breathing room. Cone of Cold may not damage Howe, but it has a good chance of stunning him, which is what you want.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

You should be fine with the party you had, I think. Cast sleep on the room, if you can get Zev and Lel stealthed then have the two of them gang up on one of the mages and backstab him in the face (or...you know...), then move them both to the other mage when he's down. Kill the mages ASAP.

If you can Cone of Cold any of the guards, do that and use your warrior to Critical Hit the frozen foes (which will shatter them). Use Winter's Grasp and Pommel Strike as a temporary disable (use WG on the second mage if he's still standing). Attack Howe last.

Use Dirty Fighting to stun and War Cry to knock down Howe. Get your rogues to flank him for extra damage. If you have poisons, use them. Use Life Drain on Howe if no other magic works on him, and Frost Weapons for added damage.

If your warrior has Threaten or other aggro-drawing talents, use them so the enemies don't go for your squishier companions.

(I used myself (2H Champion/Templar), Alistair (shield tank), Zevran and Leliana for my party, and only had a few healing potions myself, so I reckon you should be able to do it with Morri swapped for Alistair.)

Good luck

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 29 juillet 2010 - 01:10 .

[Zy-El]

Don't fight them in the room. Run out into the hallway and down the corridor. Drop a fireball behind you to take out anyone that follows.

OR, even better, setup traps in the hallway before you enter the room and then run out of the room.

[soteria]

^^ What Zy-El said. Just kill the mages first--it will help if you CC one mage while you kill the other so they don't heal each other. Try to keep the one you're killing stunned so it doesn't shift into Stinging Swarm.

[DWSmiley]

They are shapeshifters? I guess I've always killed them too quickly. I'm tempted to let them shift next time, just to see. Flying swarm is very vulnerable to fire, so it may be worth it to fireball them even if it means some friendly fire.

[mousestalker]

Stinging swarm, not flying swarm.

[DWSmiley]

soteria misled me?  

soteria wrote...

Try to keep the one you're killing stunned so it doesn't <b>shift</b> into Stinging Swarm.