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[Chuvvy]

andar91 wrote...

They just released a new trailer for a new expansion using your warden. You can find it on twitter; the link is on the main page. Other than that, I don't know. I'm not opposed to expansions or spinoffs, but I'd rather the main entries in franchise use predominantly new characters and stories.

Not an expansion.

[Adran Mahariel]

Looking forward to becoming Hawke, but I think I'll rather enjoy taking the Warden through the Golems of Amgarrak ...

[Mykel54]

So i can no longer play with my dwarf character? great work bioware, i think i will stick to origins.

[Akka le Vil]

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

Even though we can import our warden into this DLC, it is not a continuation of the Warden's story because this is just a high-level dungeon crawl. What people wants to see is a resolution with Morrigan or Alistair.

What many people seems to miss (and was the point of my previous post) is that, considering the many different endings possible, it's contradictory to ask for a closure about the Warden's story.

Because in many endings, (S)HE ACTUALLY DIES, HELLO !
Continuing the story with Allistair/Morrigan would simply throw away the choice of sacrificing yourself, and would be the opposite of "we want to see the consequences of our choices in the game".

I suppose that some persons have a hard time understanding the concept of "self-contradicting statement".

Modifié par Akka le Vil, 29 juillet 2010 - 03:56 .

[Master Shiori]

Out of 4 endings the Warden dies in 1 (Ultimate Sacrifice). Therefore there are more scenarios where he/she is alive than not.



As for David's answer, he really needs to clear up what "Warden's story isn't over" really means. That we'll get to play as the Warden in downloaded content? Another expansion for Origins in the future? Or that there's a chance we might get to play as the Warden again in another DA title?



Right now DLC seems to be the obvious answer, with expansion still being a possibility. Having the Warden come back in a future DA game is theoreticaly possible, but I wouldn't really hold my breath.

[JamieCOTC]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...
 Who knows... maybe there will be another expansion pack coming out before DA2. Maybe the Warden is going to be implemented into DA3 because of the community uproar pertaining to his/her absence from the main story thread in DA2. This does get me hopeful for more expansion packs in the Dragon Age Origins Universe:)

Maybe you are reading more into it.

DLC? For sure. Expansion for Origins? Unlikely but possible. Warden in DA3? little to no chance.

But when you say that you hope that the Warden's story isnt over what exactly is it that you want to see? Closure? New adventures featuring the Warden? The Warden reunited with Morrigan? In my opinion Bioware should leave the end of the Warden's story up to the imagination of the individual, I have even made a thread that allows people to create and post the end to their Warden's story if you would like to share your own.

http://social.biowar...index/3265430/1

Unfortunately it has been moved to another forum so I cant post in it but feel free to share your ending for your Warden.

Yeah, I agree w/ this.  The final end should be left up to the imagination. That said, I hated the ending of Awakening. 

[Rubbish Hero]

He probably means "the warden" as in that role and not "the character".
Which could still mean more Mass Effect with voice over.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 29 juillet 2010 - 04:41 .

[MAD WHITE HAM]

Akka le Vil wrote...

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

Even though we can import our warden into this DLC, it is not a continuation of the Warden's story because this is just a high-level dungeon crawl. What people wants to see is a resolution with Morrigan or Alistair.

What many people seems to miss (and was the point of my previous post) is that, considering the many different endings possible, it's contradictory to ask for a closure about the Warden's story.

Because in many endings, (S)HE ACTUALLY DIES, HELLO !
Continuing the story with Allistair/Morrigan would simply throw away the choice of sacrificing yourself, and would be the opposite of "we want to see the consequences of our choices in the game".

I suppose that some persons have a hard time understanding the concept of "self-contradicting statement".

Bioware doesn't seem to care about the Ulitmate Sacrifice... Why then do they let u import dead Wardens into Awakenings

[Great_Horn]

What made DA:O special was the implementation of different Origins in the game. This leads to a high replay value. Creating your favorite character and making individual decisions reinforced this effect.



True, to those who made the ultimate sacrifice the plot is over. But, from an RPG vantage point I would bet, that your decision making the ultimate sacrifice or giving the opportunity to spare your life, is imo clear. What makes the difference is that former Grey Wardens didn’t have this chance. Riordan took responsibility for what has to be done by this status as a Senior Grey Warden.



When I finished DA:A I was sad that I reached the end of the game, but I had the feeling that this was no proper ending for my warden. By the way it seems to me that I am one of few who enjoyed DA:A. I would love the idea going into the deep roads (alone) as part from my calling …let’s say to discover one last secret which will say there while being overwhelmed by darkspawn.



Making one expansion and now the upcoming DLC for the Warden makes me hope to believe that they will give us one last expansion, which leads to an proper ending for our Warden. Otherwise it would be an loose end …we start with our Warden and have no control about the ending.



Finally I would bet, that most fans would prefer one last expansion for their warden to bring the story to an satisfying end, than starting an new game with Hake, who has no connection to them.

[MaxQuartiroli]

So do you want to see your Warden ending his days in the Deep Roads fighting the Darkspawn to death in order to consider your story to have a proper ending?

No, thanks !! I like to leave my hero when is still young and at the top of his existance.. I know he will have to die when the calling arrives, but I am not interested in that

[okiness]

I believe they said that there would never be an Awakening size expansion again.



I see they care about what we feel "Your Warden returns!" was definitely a play on the enthusiasts feeling. But other than dungeon crawling expeditions and shot epilogue type things I don't see much left. There is really too much variation now, too many different ideas we have and some people not even wanting the Warden to be a Grey Warden, but just someone embarking on resolving their personal problems. I don't know how specific bioware can be

[Rubbish Hero]

Steam says "first official" implying more.

[bla2]

i kinda think ur warden will appear as a npc, boss, or maybe party member in DA2. if not, we'll most likely see more DAO expansions or b able 2 play as ur warden in DA3

[Mykel54]

It was too difficult to make the same thing as origins, and carry over the character with several stories?. But no you had to add voice over and couldn´t afford to make more than one mandatory character. In case you wonder bioware, player character > voice. Better to have the character you made that a new one forced on you with all the wonderful voices you may like to add him.

Modifié par Mykel54, 29 juillet 2010 - 06:37 .

[bzombo]

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...


Well i have some good news in my opinion.  While searching the BIOWARE forums I noticed that multiple individuals havd said David Gaider (Lead Writer for ALL THINGS Dragon Age)confirmed that the Warden's Storyline was OVER/DONE.  I of course panicked because I still wanted to play my Warden at least one last time.  Naturally, I searched the forum for this supposed quote... I found Nothing.  I then asked the people who quoted him where they found the quote... they did not reply... So Finally I emailed Mr Gaider himself and this was the email I sent him:

Dear Mr Gaider,
First, thanks for all your Hard Work... I loved DAO and DAA. A question... you have been quoted as saying the Warden's Story is completely over from people on these forums. However I cannot find that quote anywhere online and people who have quoted you won't reveal their source. Did you say it or are people misinterpreting your words?

Again thank you for your work... looking forward to seeing more of it. Dragon Age is great.
MAD WHITE HAM

HIS REPLY:
I said that DA2's story is not about the Warden. I assume people are extrapolating from that, as no-- I've never said the Warden's story is completely over.

Dave

Now this doesn't CONFIRM more Warden Time but it does CONFIRM he/she isn't over.  Who knows... maybe there will be another expansion pack coming out before DA2. Maybe the Warden is going to be implemented into DA3 because of the community uproar pertaining to his/her absence from the main story thread in DA2. This does get me hopeful for more expansion packs in the Dragon Age Origins Universe:)

the new dlc confirms the warden's story continues. bioware may not hit every storyline people want, but it seems bioware is adding pieces here and there. i'm still hoping a new dlc will come out for awakening that adds more to it like rto and wk did.

[Artemis_Entrari]

Although I'll likely end up getting it, I'm kind of "meh" when it comes to DLC. Expansion is where it's at. So I hope that if we do get another chance to play as the Warden, it'll be in an expansion (ala Awakenings) rather than just a bunch of hour long DLC.

[thenemesis77]

David did say for DA2, that the Warden's story was over, he also said that he could not say if there would be more stories with the Warden but he would not rule them out either, he just said if there was, he could not say and if there were not, he could not say. I would love more expansions for DAO but with them working on DA2 that might not happen and if it did, would take sometime to make. Looks like I will be heading to the deep roads with my Warden again, for the DLC.

[thenemesis77]

bzombo wrote...

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...


Well i have some good news in my opinion.  While searching the BIOWARE forums I noticed that multiple individuals havd said David Gaider (Lead Writer for ALL THINGS Dragon Age)confirmed that the Warden's Storyline was OVER/DONE.  I of course panicked because I still wanted to play my Warden at least one last time.  Naturally, I searched the forum for this supposed quote... I found Nothing.  I then asked the people who quoted him where they found the quote... they did not reply... So Finally I emailed Mr Gaider himself and this was the email I sent him:

Dear Mr Gaider,
First, thanks for all your Hard Work... I loved DAO and DAA. A question... you have been quoted as saying the Warden's Story is completely over from people on these forums. However I cannot find that quote anywhere online and people who have quoted you won't reveal their source. Did you say it or are people misinterpreting your words?

Again thank you for your work... looking forward to seeing more of it. Dragon Age is great.
MAD WHITE HAM

HIS REPLY:
I said that DA2's story is not about the Warden. I assume people are extrapolating from that, as no-- I've never said the Warden's story is completely over.

Dave

Now this doesn't CONFIRM more Warden Time but it does CONFIRM he/she isn't over.  Who knows... maybe there will be another expansion pack coming out before DA2. Maybe the Warden is going to be implemented into DA3 because of the community uproar pertaining to his/her absence from the main story thread in DA2. This does get me hopeful for more expansion packs in the Dragon Age Origins Universe:)

the new dlc confirms the warden's story continues. bioware may not hit every storyline people want, but it seems bioware is adding pieces here and there. i'm still hoping a new dlc will come out for awakening that adds more to it like rto and wk did.

Yea I watched the DLC on youtube and it says,  Your Warden RETURNS!  LOL, I still loved seeing that.

Modifié par thenemesis77, 29 juillet 2010 - 07:30 .

[Harcken]

It would be weird if my Warden suddenly has a voice box in DA2 or even DA3, they'd have to keep him mute or risk screwing with the "continuity" of the universe (which I don't mind, to be honest). I do hope that the Warden is limited to expansions or just dialog in further DA games, as the Dragon Age world would be ruined for me if Mr. Warden destroyed multiple Blights and rescued all the princes over and over. Just finish up Morrigan's tale with or without the Warden, and give him a nice tomb in a future DA game .

[Akka le Vil]

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

Bioware doesn't seem to care about the Ulitmate Sacrifice... Why then do they let u import dead Wardens into Awakenings

When you see how disjointed Awakening is toward the original game, it seems pretty obvious to me that it was supposed to be with an entirely different Grey Warden (the one from Orlais) and that allowing to import your character was hastily tacked on.

And anyway, my point was that people were all crying about Bioware not following the story of the Warden, and forgot that one (and even the most heroic) story was precisely that the story is over.
In other words, asking continuity by disreguarding continuity, hence my "self-contradictory" comment.

Modifié par Akka le Vil, 01 août 2010 - 02:08 .

[matt1284]

you know it's quite easy to add onto an origional story



If any of you have ever played the origional Deus Ex, the game had 3 possible endings.

The second game just picked one of them and went with it.

[PSUHammer]

Kalfear wrote...


Wouldnt read to much into that.
By "not over" he could be talking about future DLCs for DA:O.
Dont know about you but im not paying $7.50 for 1.5-2.25 hours of DLC anymore

So until they say the Warden gets anouther Expansion (or better a new full lenght game), sorry but I gotta side with those saying its over.

You got to read past the spin Mad, I know we never use to have to with Bioware but its a new age here at EA/Bioware.

Not being negative, just being honest!

But would you pay $10 to go see a 90 minute movie?

[JamieCOTC]

Harcken wrote...

It would be weird if my Warden suddenly has a voice box in DA2 or even DA3, they'd have to keep him mute or risk screwing with the "continuity" of the universe (which I don't mind, to be honest). I do hope that the Warden is limited to expansions or just dialog in further DA games, as the Dragon Age world would be ruined for me if Mr. Warden destroyed multiple Blights and rescued all the princes over and over. Just finish up Morrigan's tale with or without the Warden, and give him a nice tomb in a future DA game .

A nice nod in DA2 would have Hawke (God I hate that name) to "bump" into the our Warden upon leaving Lothering.  Warden doesn't have to be voiced. They both just give a passing glance at each other. 

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 08 août 2010 - 05:21 .