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[Dave of Canada]

ReconTeam wrote...

That said, what does Cerberus wanting this Grayson fellow have to do with slicing up some asari? Are these books worth getting?

Grayson is a rat who betrayed Cerberus, the Illusive Man wants him to experiment on him but Grayson is working with Aria and is dating Aria's daughter. They decide to launch the abduction one night when they think the Asari isn't there but they didn't noticer her enter, so they decide to kill her (since she's a witness of the kidnapping) and left the body so it looks like Grayson killed her and ran.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 29 juillet 2010 - 06:36 .

[Shwiggliness]

To ReconTeam



The books are an amazing read, except for Revelation.



Pick em up!

[AresXX7]

as to Aria's feelings/reaction to her daughter's death

don't forget that no one knew she was Aria's daughter and Aria couldn't show any true feelings on the matter because it would show a sign of weakness with her posistion as "pirate queen" of Omega

I do hope there is some resolution to this in ME3 cause I would like to see her go apes*** on Kai Leng at least

[durasteel]

Personally, I was very disappointed that Aria did not get revenge. I wanted her to make someone explode with her mind.

[MrnDvlDg161]

I just want to know if the game even follows the books/comics -- that should tell you whether its even going to be an issue for ME3.

[JohnnyBeGood2]

Yes, I felt bad for Aria about Liselle.

Modifié par JohnnyBeGood2, 27 septembre 2010 - 11:21 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Given that Aria is more of what people claim Cerberus to be than even Cerberus is, I find it hard to feel too much sympathy for her. Much like with Cerberus: 'it couldn't happen to a nicer person.'



Her Shadow Broker video is about overseeing a carbombing, of all things.

[mosor]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Given that Aria is more of what people claim Cerberus to be than even Cerberus is, I find it hard to feel too much sympathy for her. Much like with Cerberus: 'it couldn't happen to a nicer person.'

Her Shadow Broker video is about overseeing a carbombing, of all things.

And Liselle was no better for being an enforcer of Aria's criminal empire. I feel as bad for her death as I do some gangbanger having a cap busted in his ass.

[scotchtape622]

Wait, when did Aria kidnap and torture small children, or turn a unknowing group of scientists into Husks, or sick a pack of Thresher Maws on a group of Marines?



Aria is a criminal, yes, but she is not nearly as bad as Cerberus.

[Jonesey2k]

Aria is one of my favourite characters. I hope she gets revenge sooner or later. Liselle sounded alright.

[Dean_the_Young]

scotchtape622 wrote...

Wait, when did Aria kidnap and torture small children, or turn a unknowing group of scientists into Husks, or sick a pack of Thresher Maws on a group of Marines?

Aria is a criminal, yes, but she is not nearly as bad as Cerberus.

Aria rules through open killing, terror, and intimidation. Cerberus doesn't rule at all, and most people don't even know it exists. Different crimes, but Aria far closer fits the definition of a terrorist (and a tyrant) than TIM or Cerberus.

[Barquiel]

scotchtape622 wrote...

Wait, when did Aria kidnap and torture small children, or turn a unknowing group of scientists into Husks, or sick a pack of Thresher Maws on a group of Marines?

Aria is a criminal, yes, but she is not nearly as bad as Cerberus.

But Aria killed some Blue Sun merc in one of her vids...evil<_<

[przemichal]

I hope we will be given the oportunity to deal with Cerberus directly in ME3. But is anybody feeling bad for Grayson also? I'm feeling so bad for him - all that he wanted was the good of his own daughter. And now, turned into Reapers' super-soldier, he's like imprisoned in his own body, still consciouss, but can no longer control his actions. He also lost his girlfriend and her mother thinks he is a killer. It would be nice to see him in ME3 using his superior powers to kill TIM or something. And then unleashing the Reapers on the galaxy
I guess (since after two books he's really well estabilished character) that he would make really great (but tragic) final antagonist of the trilogy ( -:

Modifié par przemichal, 27 septembre 2010 - 12:53 .

[Dean_the_Young]

That would be rather impressive considering he's, well, dead. Kaput. Gone. And TIM isn't going to Lazarus him back.

[przemichal]

No he's not? I mean, he can no longer be considered a human (according to TIM's words), but it looks like what happened to him is quite similiar to what happened to Saren.

[Asheer_Khan]

But Aria killed some Blue Sun merc in one of her vids...evil../../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png

Bullie Suns are just... Bullie Suns ... and Omega isn't place which should be showing as example of law abbiding society...

I think there is not much differences between Omega and Illium but Illium is wraped up in pretty "decoration paper" ( just listening what Garrus says when you enter with him Nos Astra for the first time) when Omega is just like she is, dirty, dark and with threat for your life lurking in shadows.

[Tazzmission]

ReconTeam wrote...

Hmm. Perhaps she now realizes she isn't as invulnerable as she thought herself to be when talking with Shepard.

That said, what does Cerberus wanting this Grayson fellow have to do with slicing up some asari? Are these books worth getting?

i recomend all 3 if you wanna learn more of the me universe

[Dean_the_Young]

przemichal wrote...

No he's not? I mean, he can no longer be considered a human (according to TIM's words), but it looks like what happened to him is quite similiar to what happened to Saren.

Kai finished him off with two bullets to the back of the head, and Anderson muses how the Alliance will disect his corpse to study the Reaper technology inside of him.

[Nerevar-as]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

przemichal wrote...

No he's not? I mean, he can no longer be considered a human (according to TIM's words), but it looks like what happened to him is quite similiar to what happened to Saren.

Kai finished him off with two bullets to the back of the head, and Anderson muses how the Alliance will disect his corpse to study the Reaper technology inside of him.

Let´s hope he is more dead than the derelict Reaper, then.

I think Aria´s bombing Blue Suns may have to do with the coup they were planning. Don´t **** with Aria indeed. (Not excusing her, but it seems it surprised many people. To me it was clear she was ruthless before this. It is Omega, after all).

[przemichal]

"Let´s hope he is more dead than the derelict Reaper, then."

Exactly my thought. I mean, you remember that after Saren's death at the end of ME1 (when you either kill him or persuade him that he's indoctrinated and he shots himself) Shepard orders one of his squaddies to "Make sure he's dead." "He's dead," the squaddie replies; still, Sovereign manages to take control of (what's left of) his body. You also remember that after some shooting in the book Grayson is wounded and the nanobots 'heal' his wounds.

Modifié par przemichal, 27 septembre 2010 - 02:30 .

[LostInSanity]

Cerberus did indeed kill her daughter, but she does not know it was them, nor does Cerberus know she was Aria's daughter (though I'm sure they could care less). Also, Aria pretty much became a business partner, more or less, with TIM, though that didnt turn out so well so we will have to see if that still is in effect...

[jbblue05]

scotchtape622 wrote...

Wait, when did Aria kidnap and torture small children, or turn a unknowing group of scientists into Husks, or sick a pack of Thresher Maws on a group of Marines?

Aria is a criminal, yes, but she is not nearly as bad as Cerberus.

Teltin Facility went rogue its pretty obvious  Cerberus is sort of similar to the Council.  TIM is the Council while the Cerberus cell leaders are like spectres given free reign to do what's best for humanity's interests.  Jack was kidnapped as a baby but most children were bought from slavers or poor families on Earth.


Cerberus hired those specialists to study Dragon's teeth.  If you played ME1 the Hades Gamma research team and MSV Cornucoppia turned into husks when researching Dragon's teeth. In ME2 the Reaper IFF mission the entire team impaled themselves on Dragon's teeth.
The Cerberus Operative retrieved the data from  the Specialists and left and shortly after he left the team started to impale themselves on Dragon's teeth

Their is more to the Akuze story. Why are Alliance Scientists experimenting on Toombs.  The Alliance is more involved then they want you to think and you can't trust just one side of the story.

If anything Aria is more of a terrorist then Cerberus. Aria is a crime boss she rules with fear and intimidation to keep the other mercs in-line.

[DanaScu]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

scotchtape622 wrote...

Wait, when did Aria kidnap and torture small children, or turn a unknowing group of scientists into Husks, or sick a pack of Thresher Maws on a group of Marines?

Aria is a criminal, yes, but she is not nearly as bad as Cerberus.

Aria rules through open killing, terror, and intimidation. Cerberus doesn't rule at all, and most people don't even know it exists. Different crimes, but Aria far closer fits the definition of a terrorist (and a tyrant) than TIM or Cerberus.

If you read the emails that Shepard gets in ME2, *everybody* knows about Cerberus, or knows someone who works for/in Cerberus.

If you believe what Cerberus says, then I guess so. After all, after learning that the quarians don't trust Cerberus because they infiltrated the Fleet, killed quarians, and attempted to blow up one of the ships chasing down one of their escaped involuntary experiments, I can't imagine how anyone wouldn't get the warm fuzzies when thinking of Cerberus. Miranda said it wasn't anything personal, and Jacob [who only works for Cerberus as long as they don't do bad things] said they can debate who killed who later. So everything is cool. Personally, I think it great how Cerberus is going to funnel money and support to Horizon after TIM uses it for bait and gets a third or so of the colonists abducted and smoothiefied. [Yes, it could have happened without his intervention, but he actively worked to have it happen, and wouldn't alert the Alliance for back-up for Shepard, but that's another debate.]

I wonder how the body counts compare over the time span of Cerberus and all the "rogue" projects and Aria being in charge of Omega. How many Cerberus projects got results, and therefore TIM had no issues about what the scientists did to get those results? The recordings on Teltin say "if we get results he won't care what we did." I get the feeling that only the projects that didn't pan out or were discovered before Cerberus could destroy the records "went rogue". The mission report for Teltin suggests TIM was rather more pissed that evidence wasn't cleaned up than at the fact atrocities were committed.

[Nerevar-as]

jbblue05 wrote...



Cerberus hired those specialists to study Dragon's teeth.  If you played ME1 the Hades Gamma research team and MSV Cornucoppia turned into husks when researching Dragon's teeth. In ME2 the Reaper IFF mission the entire team impaled themselves on Dragon's teeth.
The Cerberus Operative retrieved the data from  the Specialists and left and shortly after he left the team started to impale themselves on Dragon's teeth

Their is more to the Akuze story. Why are Alliance Scientists experimenting on Toombs.  The Alliance is more involved then they want you to think and you can't trust just one side of the story.

If anything Aria is more of a terrorist then Cerberus. Aria is a crime boss she rules with fear and intimidation to keep the other mercs in-line.

Colony of the Dead SQ? Those were the teams for the colonization, not Cerberus people.

Nothing justified Akuze. Killed colonists and then the marines to see what happened. I don´t care for Alliance involvement or not. (If it wasn´t retconned, at least part of Cerberus was Alliance at that time. The branch Miranda mentioned I guess).

Aria on Omega is a "lesser" evil. She probably keeps the situation calmer than if she wasn´t there. Kind of Marcone in the Dresden books but in a more ruthless setting.

[Gabey5]

i enjoyed it