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[Koffeegirl]

Does it ever state in the Codex how King Maric died? I read the DA books and now I'm curious to how Maric met his end. Also how long has Cailian been King when DA begins?

[nos_astra]

At sea, which implies that his ship sank and he probably drowned?

Modifié par klarabella, 29 juillet 2010 - 08:51 .

[Koffeegirl]

Thanks I was wondering about this:) I wonder if we will ever learn more about this in future games or novels....

Modifié par Koffeegirl, 29 juillet 2010 - 08:56 .

[Sabariel]

People keep telling me a rhyme in the creepy elven orphanage implies that Loghain offs Maric, but I've never heard such a thing...

[Maugrim]

Sabariel wrote...

People keep telling me a rhyme in the creepy elven orphanage implies that Loghain offs Maric, but I've never heard such a thing...

David Gaider wrote...

Is there not a codex entry for Maric? I see that there isn't -- I thought there was.

If you're truly curious, Maric was lost at sea. Nothing more glamorous than that. Sometimes people simply die.

Linkage proof

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 29 juillet 2010 - 10:14 .

[Andraste_Reborn]

The ghost's rhyme goes:



"One, two, Maric's run through

Three, four the kingdom's at war

Eight, nine and now you die."



Which could hint that he was murdered, or maybe the dead elven child just doesn't know what he's talking about and we should listen to David Gaider instead :-). Whatever happened, Cailan had been king for five years at the start of Origins.

[BramAlam12345]

What I wonder is how did Cailan end up with Maric's sword if Maric was lost at sea. Also, if Maric was lost at sea, can we be sure that he is really dead? Wouldn't that be a surprise if he was somehow still alive somewhere?

[ArawnNox]

BramAlam12345 wrote...

What I wonder is how did Cailan end up with Maric's sword if Maric was lost at sea. Also, if Maric was lost at sea, can we be sure that he is really dead? Wouldn't that be a surprise if he was somehow still alive somewhere?

Well, there's a good chance Maric left his sword behind, and I think the official word from David Gaider is that Maric is dead, no surprise returns or anything like that. Then again, it's not like he couldn't be leading us on. However, why go through the trouble of telling a story that revolves around deciding who rules Ferelden, only to make Maric come back at a later date? It would kinda be a shot in the gut to the players, wouldn't it?

[Ulicus]

A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine before he turned to evil, helped the Orlesian Empire hunt down and destroy the Therin Kings. He betrayed and murdered your father.

[BramAlam12345]

ArawnNox wrote...

BramAlam12345 wrote...

What I wonder is how did Cailan end up with Maric's sword if Maric was lost at sea. Also, if Maric was lost at sea, can we be sure that he is really dead? Wouldn't that be a surprise if he was somehow still alive somewhere?

Well, there's a good chance Maric left his sword behind, and I think the official word from David Gaider is that Maric is dead, no surprise returns or anything like that. Then again, it's not like he couldn't be leading us on. However, why go through the trouble of telling a story that revolves around deciding who rules Ferelden, only to make Maric come back at a later date? It would kinda be a shot in the gut to the players, wouldn't it?

I suppose you are right  in both instances.  However, if I was Maric I wouldn't leave behind my Sword of Awesome +5 on any sort of journey.  Also, Gaider's explanation of Maric's death just seems like it leaves a chance for no return, i.e. lost at sea = Maric's body was probably not recovered.  He could have easily just said that Maric died of tuberculosis, or from accidently tripping down the stairs, or from choking on a chicken bone. 

Just my random thought.

[Herr Uhl]

imported_beer wrote...

Koffeegirl wrote...

Does it ever state in the Codex how King Maric died?

No.

We don't speak about that in polite company.

He found a tropical island inhibited by only female elves.

He fell victim to a falling coconut.

[mdfitz2]

Herr Uhl wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

Koffeegirl wrote...

Does it ever state in the Codex how King Maric died?

No.

We don't speak about that in polite company.

He found a tropical island inhibited by only female elves.

He fell victim to a falling coconut.

in the end he was happy

[Sarah1281]

That still doesn't mean that Loghain killed Maric, though.

[Sarah1281]

Of Maric's death? Yes. Just because he does some immoral things doesn't mean he's responsible for anything bad that's ever happened in Ferelden during his lifetime.

[Sarah1281]

Maric was lost at sea, which wouldn't be uncommon in Medieval Europe which this is based on, and how convenient is Cailan dying a full five years after Maric does? It would have been more 'convenient' if they'd both been on the ship.

[Homebound]

An Ogre was like "ITS OVER 9000!!!" and crushed him within the palm of his hand.

EDIT: Pardon me, that was king Cailan actually.

Modifié par Just_mike, 29 juillet 2010 - 10:06 .

[SirGladiator]

It would certainly make sense for Loghain to have been involved in some way, he definitely got more and more evil as time went on. Its worth noting, in regard to an earlier comment, in Rowan's defense she rejected Loghain's advances when she and Maric were engaged, and only later slept with him after she found out that Maric was cheating on her with the elven girl. She dumped Maric, slept with Loghain, then later got back together with Maric after he murdered the elf girl in a fit of rage upon learning about her past.



So ultimately I don't really care what happened to Maric, he sucked, Cailan sucked, Loghain was evil, Rowan died, so there isn't anybody left to care at all about, other than Anora and whoever Maric's child with the elf-mage turns out to be (unless it turns out that Allistair was wrong about who his mother was, and its actually him, that would be pretty bad). I liked Anora, she seemed more like Rowan's child than Cailan did, and she wasn't even related to Rowan. I wouldn't mind learning more about who Anora's mother actually was, she must've been a pretty good woman for Anora to turn out as good as she did. That's something I'd definitely like to hear about at some point. As for Maric, I'd like to have an adventure out to the sea he disappeared in and recover his gear and stuff, that'd be cool.

[Sarah1281]

After learning about her past? You mean after learning that it was her fault that most of his army got slaughtered and that she was sent in to capture him as an Orlesian bard? Katriel kind of had it coming and political marriages that have yet to take place really can't be held to the same sort of standards as two people who love each other getting engaged.



And Loghain didn't really do anything that 'evil' prior to sending Jowan to poison Eamon and he didn't do anything for the lulz or because he personally wanted power so why would he have tried to do away with Maric?

[StreetlightEagle]

To be honest I don't think Loghain did anything particularly evil throughout his life apart from selling the alienage elves to Tevinter - that seemed really out of character for him. Yes he did some morally abhorrent things but his decision at Ostagar can definitely be understood.