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[bzombo]

Arttis wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Mythrael wrote...

L33TDAWG wrote...

yes, but it doesn't look like they spent as much time on DA2 as they did on oblivion, now if they were to release it in 2012 im sure it'd be better

true      DA2 almost seems rushed

Sorry, but I roll my eyes at thee. Seeing an alpha test video with a handful of character models, PLACEHOLDERS at that, and about 10 screenshots and you say that "DA2 seems rushed" ?

.If we assume it will be a large game then it feels like tis coming out so soon it has to be rushed.Of course this may not be true.Its just the general feeling at this stage.
Also they are hiding much from us.

they've been working on da2 a lot longer than since they revealed it. some of the devs were expressing how happy they were to be able to talk about da2 after being quiet for so long. i get the impression that da2 development started late last year sometime during or just after console porting finished. i could be wrong, but that's how it has seemed to me.

[mopotter]

LdyShayna wrote...

Arttis wrote...

I guess I will soon become a pc elitist whiner as well as a casual dumb console gamer....great worst of both worlds.Oh well the main prize is the game so I will be fine.

Think of it as an exciting career as a double agent, and enjoy. 

I am already a PC elitist whiner and a casual dumb console gamer.  Your right it's very exciting.  I get to complain about everything!  
I think what used to be called a difference of opinion, is now whining if you are on the other side.

[Rubbish Hero]

Vulee94 wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Higher res textures. parallax occlusion mapping,  screen space ambient occlusion and tessellation not very time consuming. Make game not look like 1999 (see below).



Anti-aliasing also make game not look 1999 grainy vegetation.

Funny, I don't remember Baldur's Gate 2 looking like that, being that it's a 2000 game.

1998.

[Harcken]

I hope it is at least over 40 hours, after it surpasses that mark, I could care less if it is 60 or 100 hours. Like others have pointed out though, I'm sure a bulk of the development time in DA:O was spent on the origin stories and dialog (and quests) that make the elf, human, or dwarf feel unique. Now the origin stories are gone but that sliver of dialog/quests is still there because of importation; hopefully it's more than a random note in a chest that says "Hi -Leliana" or some other ridiculous antic.

[IoCaster]

nvm 

Modifié par IoCaster, 30 juillet 2010 - 07:36 .

[Vulee94]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Vulee94 wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Higher res textures. parallax occlusion mapping,  screen space ambient occlusion and tessellation not very time consuming. Make game not look like 1999 (see below).



Anti-aliasing also make game not look 1999 grainy vegetation.

Funny, I don't remember Baldur's Gate 2 looking like that, being that it's a 2000 game.

1998.

Need I say that the differences are obvious?

Why don't you post a comparison of the character models?

[Grommash94]

IoCaster wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

IoCaster wrote...
You either want a mainstream audience or you prefer to let the mindless drones and obsessed sycophants dominate your boards with useless crap like the quoted post.

Well, at least he isn't whining about how stupid the mainstream audience is.

You're the worthless putz that decides what scale to use to gauge the stupidity of a mainstream audience?

Or do you contend that...

Solid N7 wrote...

you and the other pc whiners feel that way

...this is a worthwhile contribution to a message board?

Give me a hint here honcho. You seem to be convinced that you're not just some supercilious internet twerp impressed with your own non-existent powers of cognizance. What possible relevance does that post have to do with the topic at hand and, by the way, why shouldn't it be taken at face value as nothing but senseless trolling for effect? Come on d-bag, let's double down on this sh!t.  

EDIT: I've subscribed to this thread and we've got some unfinished business to attend to. Let's get it on.

Erm, question, not meaning to be offensive, but what exactly are you going on about? A troll said 'you and the other pc whiners feel that way', and all of the sudden you are bashing another poster altogether? 

[Rubbish Hero]

Vulee94 wrote... Why don't you post a comparison of the character models?

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 29 juillet 2010 - 08:42 .

[Games4ever]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Vulee94 wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Higher res textures. parallax occlusion mapping,  screen space ambient occlusion and tessellation not very time consuming. Make game not look like 1999 (see below).



Anti-aliasing also make game not look 1999 grainy vegetation.

Funny, I don't remember Baldur's Gate 2 looking like that, being that it's a 2000 game.

1998.

Easy to see which pic there is best.
I’ll get my coat

[Rubbish Hero]

Games4ever wrote... Easy to see which pic there is best.

I say "looks like" not "better" which mean comparable.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 29 juillet 2010 - 08:48 .

[SOLID_EVEREST]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Vulee94 wrote... Why don't you post a comparison of the character models?

Dang, nice comparison. I think you just squished Vulee94 lol.

[andar91]

The game might be a bit shorter, but I think there was stuff in Origins that could have been cut. As an earlier poster said, some of the areas were a bit too drawn out and the origins took up a good chunk of time as well. I won't really mind if the game is shorter, as long as it's not too much.

[Games4ever]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Games4ever wrote... Easy to see which pic there is best.

I say "looks like" not "better" which mean comparable.

Oh dear,I didn't talk about what you wrote,I'd compare the two pics for myself

[Solid N7]

IoCaster wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

IoCaster wrote...
You either want a mainstream audience or you prefer to let the mindless drones and obsessed sycophants dominate your boards with useless crap like the quoted post.

Well, at least he isn't whining about how stupid the mainstream audience is.

You're the worthless putz that decides what scale to use to gauge the stupidity of a mainstream audience?

Or do you contend that...

Solid N7 wrote...

you and the other pc whiners feel that way

...this is a worthwhile contribution to a message board?

Give me a hint here honcho. You seem to be convinced that you're not just some supercilious internet twerp impressed with your own non-existent powers of cognizance. What possible relevance does that post have to do with the topic at hand and, by the way, why shouldn't it be taken at face value as nothing but senseless trolling for effect? Come on d-bag, let's double down on this sh!t.  

EDIT: I've subscribed to this thread and we've got some unfinished business to attend to. Let's get it on.

hehehe funny guy:devil:

[Rubbish Hero]

Games4ever wrote... Oh dear,I didn't talk about what you wrote

Then don't quote me.

[Vulee94]

@Rubbish Hero:



No beard, you lose.

[Lord_Saulot]

Klimy wrote...

 link to the article

"Origins is very large. There’s no way you could make a game that huge that is as baroquely and finely detailed as Gears of War, say."

Based on the details of the graphics so far, it means that DA2 will be much shorter than DA:O, if what they wrote is true. It does make sence since ME2 was shorter than ME1 but better graphics (if this is a valid logical assumption). Also including the fact that now main char has VO, costs and HD space will also effect the length.

Please post your thoughts about it, and (hopefully) prove my point wrong. But lets keep complaining about the length of it outside this thread.

I think you are interpreting that in the exact opposite way I would.  I didn't read the whole thread, sorry, so someone may have discussed it.  But that was a topic about DA2's graphic style, and how they are moving toward a stylized style.  They said that Origins was large and couldn't use a detailed style like Gears.  If they were then saying they would use a detailed style in DA2, it would make sense to infer that DA2 would be short.  But they said they were going stylized instead of hyperrealistic, so the implication is that that is because it is a long game.

[andar91]

Edit: Sorry. Keeps doing that for some reason.

Modifié par andar91, 29 juillet 2010 - 10:34 .

[IoCaster]

nvm

Modifié par IoCaster, 30 juillet 2010 - 07:37 .

[Brockololly]

Querne wrote...

Mark Darrah (Executive Producer) said to the German GameStar Magazine 09/10 (printed, can´t link) that DA2 will be longer than Awakening but shorter than DA:O.

Meh... all thats saying is that the days of epic and long single player, story driven RPGs like Origins is dead. BioWare seems to have it established that about 30-40 hours is as long as they'll make games now. Origins lasted me about 80 hours on its first run and Awakening about 15.

Ideally, DA2 would be just as long as Origins but if it was 60 hours or so, that would be good. The problem is that if the game is too short, it takes away that epic feeling for me- it would be like condensing the Lord of the RIngs into a 100 page book.

And given the whole 10 year time span now with DA2, I'm worried the whole narrative is going to feel terribly rushed. I had that problem with Awakening- some said it was just briskly paced, but too often when I wanted to linger and explore, the game kept pushing you forward whether you wanted to or not. There is a fine line between good pacing and having the narrative shoved down your throat.  In an RPG spanning a decade, I want to take my sweet time and explore and chat up party members without getting forced into the final battle without even having the chance to talk to the last guy I just recruited.

[Grommash94]

Querne wrote...

Mark Darrah (Executive Producer) said to the German GameStar Magazine 09/10 (printed, can´t link) that DA2 will be longer than Awakening but shorter than DA:O.

I am fairly certain there was another magazine that said that DA2 would be longer than Awakening but have more depth than DA:O. That basically, to me, means that it will be shorter, but not have as much filler content as Origins had.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Solid N7 wrote...

the president of square enix said the ideal time of duration for rpg is 40hrs

And if I thought Square Enix had ever made a decent RPG, I might care what they had to say.

[Dave of Canada]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Solid N7 wrote...

the president of square enix said the ideal time of duration for rpg is 40hrs

And if I thought Square Enix had ever made a decent RPG, I might care what they had to say.

Out of curiosity, what was your opinion of Squaresoft?

[Solid N7]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Solid N7 wrote...

the president of square enix said the ideal time of duration for rpg is 40hrs

And if I thought Square Enix had ever made a decent RPG, I might care what they had to say.

true:devil:

Modifié par Solid N7, 29 juillet 2010 - 11:20 .