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[Maestro975]

I think Kai will be in ME3 in some capacity, given how he does survive his injuries, and by going by the previous pattern:

Saren: Revelation -> ME1
TIM: Ascension -> ME2

Do you think he will be a villain, or do you think he'll be getting Miranda's old job (since she may be dead or resigned from Cerberus)?

In terms of VAs for Kai, I would suggest Brian Tee.

Modifié par Maestro975, 29 juillet 2010 - 04:31 .

[Xrissie]

That would certainly be interesting.

[dreman9999]

The guy proves that N7 agents....(or at lease Sheperd's generation of N7 agents) can destroy anything. The man can fight a room full of ninja's, pirates,and robots with out getting a scratch and then walk slowly away from an explosion with out fliching.

On topic, I wonder if Aria will ever find out what he did to her?

Modifié par dreman9999, 29 juillet 2010 - 05:05 .

[angj57]

I can't imagine Miranda not being in the game.

[Pinkflamingo22]

angj57 wrote...

I can't imagine Miranda not being in the game.

True.. the whole "anyone can die" ending to ME2 kinda killed them for ME3

Charcaters like Miranda and Garrus should have been death proof, I wonder how much time and effort will be put into the in ME3.

Up to this point Miranda, Garrus and Tali are all crucial characters to the story and not having any of them play major roles in ME3 would be the equivelent to shooting ones self in the foot.

as for Kai Leng.... Squaddie maybe, though I can't see them adding too many "new" squaddies in ME3

Modifié par Pinkflamingo22, 29 juillet 2010 - 07:44 .

[Maestro975]

angj57 wrote...

I can't imagine Miranda not being in the game.

Which is why I said her old job. Her loyalty would surely be with the Normandy, so Kai could step in as the new Cerberus loyalist.

[dreman9999]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

angj57 wrote...

I can't imagine Miranda not being in the game.

True.. the whole "anyone can die" ending to ME2 kinda killed them for ME3

Charcaters like Miranda and Garrus should have been death proof, I wonder how much time and effort will be put into the in ME3.

Up to this point Miranda, Garrus and Tali are all crucial characters to the story and not having any of them play major roles in ME3 would be the equivelent to shooting ones self in the foot.

as for Kai Leng.... Squaddie maybe, though I can't see them adding too many "new" squaddies in ME3

Your confusing ME3 charater excluions with ME2'S. ME2 excluded charated that can die in ME1 due their involment to the story would  causing too many brachs in the story. ME3 won't have that problem due to being the end of the story.Bioware can do any thing they want with ME3 even make braches of the story that some people can't play due to dead chracter.

[angj57]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

angj57 wrote...

I can't imagine Miranda not being in the game.

True.. the whole "anyone can die" ending to ME2 kinda killed them for ME3

Charcaters like Miranda and Garrus should have been death proof, I wonder how much time and effort will be put into the in ME3.

Up to this point Miranda, Garrus and Tali are all crucial characters to the story and not having any of them play major roles in ME3 would be the equivelent to shooting ones self in the foot.

If Shepard survived, then there have to be at least 2 other squadmates, which is enough to do an entire game with. The 5% of players who actually will be importing a Shepard but lost a lot of the squad would still be able to do the whole game without any or many new squadmates. So I don't think it is going to be an issue, I bet they will just code all the old characters, and if someone wants to play with a squadmate who died in their previous playthrough they will just have to start a new game.

[oldharryold]

I hope so. It would be most satisfying to deliver Tim & Kai to Aria as the men responsible for Liselles death.

Modifié par oldharryold, 15 septembre 2010 - 12:35 .

[MrnDvlDg161]

I think the written universe and the game universe should keep their distance, it doesn't seem like they meshed in any way if someone were to never have read them and just played the game.

[Lunatic LK47]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I think the written universe and the game universe should keep their distance, it doesn't seem like they meshed in any way if someone were to never have read them and just played the game.

QFMFT.

[MrnDvlDg161]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I think the written universe and the game universe should keep their distance, it doesn't seem like they meshed in any way if someone were to never have read them and just played the game.

QFMFT.

And that spells out too?

If it was an insult --- I could care less... heard worse in the back of a crappy C-130 during turbulence.

What my question is,  how much does the written comics/books affect the game's progression?  In other words, if no one knew about the background of the further universe, would it affect their game play.

The reason I ask this is because the written univese is quoted a lot in terms of people wanting  x for  ME3 --- but do the developers follow the books when making decisions for game play.  In other words, many talk about what happened to Aria --- yet at best .... Aria in the game is a Omega mafia boss that you help out in oh-so-many ways... but you wouldn't know anything about the daughter part... its never mentioned...and it certainly didn't seem it meant much to the progression of the  Shepard mission.

[Lunatic LK47]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

And that spells out too?

Quoted for Mother-f-ing truth.

[Tazzmission]

i thought he died from that gun shot wound no?

[Rivercurse]

I really hope Shepard gets to meet him at some point. The again I also hoped prior to ME2 that we would meet Hendel/Gillian and the deep space quarian vessel.



Come to think of it, we probably still will in ME3 *crosses fingers*

[TuringPoint]

I want to fight him. I want to see martial arts combat between them.



I was thinking about this the other day, you see. I think he should be in one of the DLC's, or ME3, hunting down Shepard or in some way harassing him.



I guess TIM doesn't want Shepard to die, but Cerberus has got to have something planned. Perhaps an attempt to capture Shepard, blackmail Shep, or something else to get control of him?

[KenLyns]

Didn't Kai die in the book?

And I think Thane is in fact equally good if not better than Kai, assuming he can still breathe by ME3's timeframe. Why would TIM have you go through the trouble of recruiting Thane when Kai is already available and guaranteed to be loyal?

Who else has the perverse desire to see Kai cut Tali with her own knife? 

Modifié par KenLyns, 16 septembre 2010 - 03:27 .

[Rivercurse]

KenLyns wrote...

Didn't Kai die in the book?
 

OK you're the second person to say that.. I really need to re-read this book.

So far as I recall, he crawled away after the incident at the ascension project.  I seem to vaguely recall him making contact with TIM again afterwards, but tbh I haven't read it since I bought the e-book on release day, and I was pretty drunk by the end

[TuringPoint]

Surely TIM had other uses for Kai, even at the time. Hooking up Shepard with outside parties made the most sense so that he didn't have to tie up Cerberus assets more than necessary.



Kai did not die. He did, in fact, escape.



To quote the book,

"He (Kai Leng) crawled through the shuttle and up to the forward cabin. Hauling himself into the chair, he punched the controls and fired up the engines."



And later, after an extended scene while Kai Leng escapes, it starts describing how Anderson and co are doing:

"Three days had passed since Kai Leng had escaped the station."

Grayson died; Kai did not.

[KenLyns]

^ Thanks for the reminder. Not tying up Cerberus assets more than necessary is a good reason, too. Another possible reason is that Kai is a hardline xenophobe. Adding him to the decidedly multi-species SR2 crew may create too much friction.

[TuringPoint]

Thane still might be a better assassin. He was trained from birth, and Kai was trained from - maybe 17, 18 years old?



I really want to see Shepard and Kai Leng match Martial Arts skills. Frankly, I want Shepard to be Jason Bourne in addition to everything else Shepard is.

[TuringPoint]

: OOPS!  Double post

Modifié par Alocormin, 16 septembre 2010 - 05:44 .

[McAllyster]

I hope Kai Leng will be in ME3 - so my Shepard could kill him.

[Jayce]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

What my question is,  how much does the written comics/books affect the game's progression?  In other words, if no one knew about the background of the further universe, would it affect their game play.

The reason I ask this is because the written univese is quoted a lot in terms of people wanting  x for  ME3 --- but do the developers follow the books when making decisions for game play.  In other words, many talk about what happened to Aria --- yet at best .... Aria in the game is a Omega mafia boss that you help out in oh-so-many ways... but you wouldn't know anything about the daughter part... its never mentioned...and it certainly didn't seem it meant much to the progression of the  Shepard mission.

Answer: to an extent but only really in background detail.

Revelation takes place 20 years before ME1 and concerns Anderson's brush with Saren and the Blue Suns and tells you how Saren came into contact with Sovereign. Anderson will tell you about it in the first game it's also the reason behind Udina pulling him from the Normandy.

Ascension takes place 6 months to a year after ME1 and has zero impact on ME2 beyond introducing us to the Illusive Man and giving more background on Cerberus. It's little more than a footnote in Jack's loyalty mission.

Retribution occurs again about 6-12 months after the events of ME2  it picks up on the charaters and events from Ascension.  The only impact it has on the games is that it canonizes Donel Udina as the Human Councillor.

Modifié par Jayce F, 19 septembre 2010 - 12:31 .

[JohnnyBeGood2]

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Modifié par JohnnyBeGood2, 27 septembre 2010 - 11:21 .