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[Josh Echo]

In original Mass Effect, the weapons (or at least the assault rifles) have an extra barrel.  On one of the Bioware web sites, there is a screenshot where both barrels are smoking.  Yet in the game, only one of them ever appears to fire.  What's the story?

[Simpfan]

One for normal ammos, the other for special ammo maybe?

Thats what I assumed.

[M1tt3ns]

In the case of the Avenger style assault rifles, it's not a barrel. It's the other end of the optics.

In the case of the Viper I'm not sure why it exists, but it's sealed at the end. Presumably it's there for aesthetic reasons to mimic the gas tube of a real weapon... of course Mass Effect's guns aren't gas-operated, so it can't be that.

(Edit)




Looking at the weapons in the artbook I have it actually seems like the avenger has a gas tube as well... and the mantis appears to have another rod coming out of the front... I'm going to assume the other barrels that look like gas tubes are either some sort of heat dissipation feature or recoil baffling.

Modifié par M1tt3ns, 30 juillet 2010 - 03:46 .

[Josh Echo]

Yeah, I think that's the picture I meant. I believe there's a larger version somewhere which more clearly shows that both barrels are smoking. Your "heat sink" theory seems sensible, but I'm kind of confused about how that would work.

[M1tt3ns]

I think you're more likely looking at a confused artist than the original intent. On the vindicator the eyepiece of the scope and the other 'barrel' are completely in-line. Otherwise the avenger would have an eye-piece going to nowhere. Furthermore we only see fire come from one barrel in the game.

Modifié par M1tt3ns, 30 juillet 2010 - 03:49 .

[Josh Echo]

I don't know what the Vindicator is (must be Mass Effect 2, but on the assault rifles in Mass Effect the eyepiece and the "second barrel" are not at all level. In order for this "second barrel" thing to be part of the scope, there would need to be a complex optical system within, using something like mirrors or fiber optics.

Modifié par Josh Echo, 30 juillet 2010 - 03:55 .

[M1tt3ns]

The vindicator battle rifle uses the same model as the Spectre assault rifle in Mass Effect 1. with the flat, sloped front-end.

like this:


Additionally the setup wouldn't have to be complex at all. Many modern scopes especially night vision and thermal scopes are designed with the eyepiece staggered from the main tube. EO-Tech holo sights use a complex series of mirrors to make the reticle paralax free, and that's all technology that's available today.

Modifié par M1tt3ns, 30 juillet 2010 - 04:07 .

[Simpfan]

I still say the extra barrel is for special ammo

[angj57]

Maybe a grenade launcher? Of course.. there is a heavy weapon for that, so never mind.

Modifié par angj57, 30 juillet 2010 - 04:16 .

[xlavaina]

IrishAccent wrote...

M1tt3ns wrote...

In the case of the Avenger style assault rifles, it's not a barrel. It's the other end of the optics.

In the case of the Viper I'm not sure why it exists, but it's sealed at the end. Presumably it's there for aesthetic reasons to mimic the gas tube of a real weapon... of course Mass Effect's guns aren't gas-operated, so it can't be that.

Optics don't smoke that like.

I've actually pondered this as well. Massive cover art fail 

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

The pistols are also smoking.

[M1tt3ns]

I just realized looking at the Mantis that the optics are similarly angled, look a few posts back and you'll see it as well. I imagine that should clear up some of the fog surrounding this issue, since it's clear the entire upper portion on the Mantis is a scope.

[Josh Echo]

Interesting. I see. So the smoking optics is just "the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing."

[Squiddytreat]

There's a strong possibility that the designer for the poster mistook the end of the optics for a secondary barrel - it's not really an unheard of thing. It does look pretty cool, however, and it's not exactly a point of notice for the average person until someone else brings it to their attention.

I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare just stuck with that because it made the gun look more impressive.



As for the sniper rifles having that secondary barrel at the bottom where a normal rifle's gas tube would be, it's probably there as a functional support for the extending/retracting nature of the gun. Same with the other longer weapons.

[YukiFA]

When I played soldier in ME2 I liked to think that the concussive shot was the lower barrel being a grenade launcher.

[Rivercurse]

xlavaina wrote...





I've actually pondered this as well. Massive cover art fail 

Come on dude, this was a cover art fail long before anyone noticed that the barrell of the gun was smoking!

[Spartas Husky]

This wass asked long long ago, by me as well. Answer I got, is because developvers were going to include some sort of projetile launcher, not similar to the concussive shot, but decided not to in the end. But even while deciding to scrub the idea the kept both barrels as it looked "kool"



What I proposed whle ago, is since weapons have "heat sinks" which resemble a bit like shot gun shells, to have the longest barrel be the barrel that keeps the heat sinks in a line. So both barrles would give off large amounts of heat, one from firing, the other one from capturing he given amount of heat.

[Kroesis-]

YukiFA wrote...

When I played soldier in ME2 I liked to think that the concussive shot was the lower barrel being a grenade launcher.

Same

[Jigero]

M1tt3ns wrote...

In the case of the Avenger style assault rifles, it's not a barrel. It's the other end of the optics.

In the case of the Viper I'm not sure why it exists, but it's sealed at the end. Presumably it's there for aesthetic reasons to mimic the gas tube of a real weapon... of course Mass Effect's guns aren't gas-operated, so it can't be that.

(Edit)




Looking at the weapons in the artbook I have it actually seems like the avenger has a gas tube as well... and the mantis appears to have another rod coming out of the front... I'm going to assume the other barrels that look like gas tubes are either some sort of heat dissipation feature or recoil baffling.

the bottom barrel on the Mantis has a laser sight in it. you can see it when garrus uses it when you meet him, why it has gas tubes on it? I dunno maybe cause it looks cool.

[Anezay]

I like the support for collapse theory. Also, so you have something to hold on to. These are two-handed weapons, people.

[The Interloper]

They're saving the extra barrel for when things get really bad. And photo ops.

[Ablaz3d]

Awhile I read on the old ME forums that the extra barrel was for a grenade launcher but that got scrapped. Will try to find link.