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Pedrak wrote...


Oh, and BTW am I the only one who found TW's combat easily broken and unbalanced? That pesky Igni sign was so ludicrously overpowered that I waltzed through the last chapters never dying and barely unsheathing my sword.


Igni is fire, right? If so, yes it rocks. I loved to burn 10 Flaming Rose ****ers at once, hehe^^.

Really gave the "flaming" in their name a new meaning:devil::devil::devil:

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Now, can someone clarify one thing that I was never really sure about TW? Is the kid Alvin the Grand Master of the Order? How come the GM has the same amulet Triss gave the kid, at the end? But how could they both co-exist at the same space/time? (12 monkeys' army effect?)


I think everything points towards the GM being Alvin, but I really have no idea how. I suspecrt, though, we might get an answer in TW2. This time-travel thing practically cries for a sequel.



There are several unanswered questions at the end of TW. Kinda annoyed me, actually. I wanted a bit more closure.

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Tirigon wrote...

Igni is fire, right? If so, yes it rocks. I loved to burn 10 Flaming Rose ****ers at once, hehe^^.
Really gave the "flaming" in their name a new meaning:devil::devil::devil:


LOL, Tirigon!

Yeah, it is fun. But this time and it's a first for me, I'm not sideing with the scoia'tel. I never overcame my OOC disgust for them. But this time, I'm playing a different role.

And a fixed char can offer a great chance for a very deep roleplaying, Pedrak. As I said, just like an actor would do. Do you think that Anton Chigurh is compatible with Javier Barden's personality? Or likable in any degree? Perhaps interesting enough to give him an Oscar for it. But the guy, OOC, is as sweet as a man can be. Ask Penelope... *envy*

My point is. To play a role, to really play a role, we go deep into the character. Of course with a wide range of PC to choose from it opens more possibilities too. I usually play paladin-types characters or Sindarin Elven Archers 'cause of my fanatic adoration of Tolkien's world. (I created an awarded bio for my archer that paled Legolas... he was just my apprentice then...hahaha)

That pattern also was repeated in DA:O  but at some point, I could bring myself to play a murderer human-hater city elf rogue, with a very disgusting personality and mean mean heart. Very much the Chigurh of Ferelden. It was a lot of fun to play him specially because I know him to be so different from me. And yet many people criticized me, the player, for playing him, based on one scene alone! Read the comments here if you wish.

Dragon Age - Ogren wants to be shared! Posted Image

It is a lot of fun for me to play Geralt, specially by supporting the squirrels. But I wanted to see the difference when I started my current run, few months ago. I, while the person OOC, felt bad with some decisions in chapter 2 and stoped the run right at the start of chapter 3, perhaps because of it. I resumed it yesterday and it's all fun and games again! =)

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RageGT wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Igni is fire, right? If so, yes it rocks. I loved to burn 10 Flaming Rose ****ers at once, hehe^^.
Really gave the "flaming" in their name a new meaning:devil::devil::devil:


LOL, Tirigon!

Yeah, it is fun. But this time and it's a first for me, I'm not sideing with the scoia'tel. I never overcame my OOC disgust for them. But this time, I'm playing a different role.


Well, I had trouble siding with the Order, both from my real life attitude and from Geralt´s POV (after all he´s sort of an outcast himself, and used to like the otherlings), but if you manage to overcome the disgust for them, well, do not worry: The Scoia´Tael burn nicely, too:devil::devil::devil:

And you can get the most disgusting sex card in the game:police:

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Tirigon wrote...
And you can get the most disgusting sex card in the game:police:

White Rayla? 

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Tirigon wrote...
And you can get the most disgusting sex card in the game:police:

White Rayla? 


That her name? Was looong ago that I played Witcher.... The soldier girl I mean. The one that tries to collect more squirrel insignia than Geralt.

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I thought Abigail was a bit worse, actually.

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AlanC9 wrote...

I thought Abigail was a bit worse, actually.


Well, taste´s differ.

Though Abigail WAS bad, I agree on that. I was tempted to let her burn after seeing the picture:devil:

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Because you've played DA2 SOOOOOOO much you know the witchers better?...

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I spent more hours on the Witcher than I did in any BIOWARE game (sorry guys I just like free roaming lol) But I would love to see the more dirty side to it. Dragon age had some f***** up **** like child murder and so on... But the Witcher's dirty talk was really funny :P A little bit more of that. Just a little bit, like Mass Effect 2 just a teeny tiny bit :P.

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i hope you people are comparing DA with witcher , and DA II with witcher 2 assassin of kings ( which looks stunning , im drooling all over )

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Can't believe people are so hung up on the sex cards. I couldn't even take them seriously.

And just because I've scaled them up, had them professionally printed, and basically made wallpaper out of them...there's nothing wrong with that is there?

Modifié par slimgrin, 03 août 2010 - 03:09 .


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I loved the english voice on Geralt. Did I get a good copy or am I missing something?



And for blurring out sexscenes and stuff... I live in Sweden and here we are "not so stuffy about sex and violence"(get me right here, please). I always laugh when I see an American show, with "Bip""Bip" whenever it's a "bad" word, and I hate that I don't get to see what is going on because there is a huge blurry spot over the whole screne(What is that all about??).

America is a HUGE land and first with so many things, that I'm a bit amazed that you guys are so... (god my english sucks) strict(?) about sex, violence and religion in Tv-shows and games.

Here we can like someone said before, go and get a pornmagazine from the front of the store, for ALL to see. Or rent a pornmovie standing on the same shelves as horror or thriller movies.

Bad words, boobs or hairy asses don't get blurred or "Biped" out.

I find the sex in ME, ME2, DA:O and TW a bit blahablaha. I mean, you don't see anything!! And about the cards in TW. I can't belive people is getting offended by them.First it's a freaking game, second I find them rather good looking( nicely drawn). The only thing is that I would love to have some cards with goodlooking men on them too...Grrr...Mmmm^^. Just for my own pleasure=).(Not in a bad, playing with myself way. Just for eyecandy)

I guess noone will understand what I want to say, but atleast I've got to vent my feelings a bit=).



//Desh

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Pedrak wrote...
It limits the roleplay - or, better, it forces me to roleplay someone I might not find interesting/likeable/compatible with my personality, or with the personality I want to express in a certain playthrough.

There are great RPGs with a fixed main character. However, creating my own character allows a deeper, more personal experience.


I fail to see how a fixed name and physical appearance limits roleplay. Because, you know, that's everything that's limited on TW, not the personality, for example.

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Tirigon wrote...


Well, I had trouble siding with the Order, both from my real life attitude and from Geralt´s POV (after all he´s sort of an outcast himself, and used to like the otherlings), but if you manage to overcome the disgust for them, well, do not worry: The Scoia´Tael burn nicely, too:devil::devil::devil:


OOC my "best" decision is following the neutral path. And you end fighting both sides, which is more fun:devil:

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Mallissin wrote...

I want the sex cards from the Witcher, except they should be like Magic the Gathering and you can only beat the end boss if you have a powerful deck.


Tirigon wrote...

Well, I had trouble siding with the Order, both from my real life attitude and from Geralt´s POV (after all he´s sort of an outcast himself, and used to like the otherlings),


*taps his Two Nurses sex card, overwhelming all Toruviel and White Rayla cards in play*

Check mate.

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Can't believe people are so hung up on the sex cards. I couldn't even take them seriously.

And just because I've scaled them up, had them professionally printed, and basically made wallpaper out of them...there's nothing wrong with that is there?


People will find something to complain about if they determined!

The Sex cards are a humorous side activity and nothing more.
Heck, most of them dont even show actual breasts in them and just posed provokably.
They really not a huge issue and most adult players will take them for what they are and nothing more.

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winter troll wrote...

i hope you people are comparing DA with witcher , and DA II with witcher 2 assassin of kings ( which looks stunning , im drooling all over )


LOL, with the screen shots I seen for TW2, Bioware better hope we comparing DA2 to The Witcher cause it doesnt even come close to holding up to TW2 from the known info and screen shots so far.

I agree btw, The Witcher 2 is the BEST looking RPG I seen to date, bar none. The screen shots they have released are simply amazing and the trailer made of ingame graphics is also freaking amazing!

Cant wait for TW2 and Deus Ex 2 in the first quarter of 2011. Thats whats getting my money (and The Old Republic but thats more peer pressure from freinds then anything else)

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Kalfear wrote...

winter troll wrote...

i hope you people are comparing DA with witcher , and DA II with witcher 2 assassin of kings ( which looks stunning , im drooling all over )


LOL, with the screen shots I seen for TW2, Bioware better hope we comparing DA2 to The Witcher cause it doesnt even come close to holding up to TW2 from the known info and screen shots so far.

I agree btw, The Witcher 2 is the BEST looking RPG I seen to date, bar none. The screen shots they have released are simply amazing and the trailer made of ingame graphics is also freaking amazing!

Cant wait for TW2 and Deus Ex 2 in the first quarter of 2011. Thats whats getting my money (and The Old Republic but thats more peer pressure from freinds then anything else)

Central european companies tend to make games with great graphics, Hegemony and Rush for Berlin in their own time were also great, and I think the style of Hegemony was copied over and over since it came out. It is not unlikely the same will happen with Witcher 2.

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Kalfear wrote...
Cant wait for TW2 and Deus Ex 2 in the first quarter of 2011. Thats whats getting my money (and The Old Republic but thats more peer pressure from freinds then anything else)


You surely mean Deus Ex 3 :whistle:

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Kalfear wrote...
LOL, with the screen shots I seen for TW2, Bioware better hope we comparing DA2 to The Witcher cause it doesnt even come close to holding up to TW2 from the known info and screen shots so far.

I agree btw, The Witcher 2 is the BEST looking RPG I seen to date, bar none. The screen shots they have released are simply amazing and the trailer made of ingame graphics is also freaking amazing!

Cant wait for TW2 and Deus Ex 2 in the first quarter of 2011. Thats whats getting my money (and The Old Republic but thats more peer pressure from freinds then anything else)

Central european companies tend to make games with great graphics, Hegemony and Rush for Berlin in their own time were also great, and I think the style of Hegemony was copied over and over since it came out. It is not unlikely the same will happen with Witcher 2.


I like the style on TW2 screenshots and videos but I wouldn't call that top notch graphics. Not that I care anyway.

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Rage, point taken about acting - and yes, it can be intriguing to try to get under the skin of a fixed character, like Geralt. But creating your char and then playing him is an even richer experience - after all, they say the greatest dream of all actors is being able to choose the roles they want... Posted Image


Kenrae wrote...

Pedrak wrote...
It limits the roleplay - or, better, it forces me to roleplay someone I might not find interesting/likeable/compatible with my personality, or with the personality I want to express in a certain playthrough.

There are great RPGs with a fixed main character. However, creating my own character allows a deeper, more personal experience.


I fail to see how a fixed name and physical appearance limits roleplay. Because, you know, that's everything that's limited on TW, not the personality, for example.


Well, people in the game seemed to have a pretty clear idea of who Geralt was. If they put me in the shoes of a scarred albino macho warrior with a reputation for being the ultimate badass and a womanizer, I suppose I could have tried to play him also, say, as a sneaky, cowardly guy who is shy, humorless and chaste, but it would have felt dissonant. So, in a way, I was pushed to play him as a sarcastic, charismatic, Chaotic Good warrior who had lots of casual sex with scantily clad, curvy maids... not that I'm complaining. Posted Image

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Lord Deshwitat wrote...

I loved the english voice on Geralt. Did I get a good copy or am I missing something?

And for blurring out sexscenes and stuff... I live in Sweden and here we are "not so stuffy about sex and violence"(get me right here, please). I always laugh when I see an American show, with "Bip""Bip" whenever it's a "bad" word, and I hate that I don't get to see what is going on because there is a huge blurry spot over the whole screne(What is that all about??).
America is a HUGE land and first with so many things, that I'm a bit amazed that you guys are so... (god my english sucks) strict(?) about sex, violence and religion in Tv-shows and games.
Here we can like someone said before, go and get a pornmagazine from the front of the store, for ALL to see. Or rent a pornmovie standing on the same shelves as horror or thriller movies.
Bad words, boobs or hairy asses don't get blurred or "Biped" out.
I find the sex in ME, ME2, DA:O and TW a bit blahablaha. I mean, you don't see anything!! And about the cards in TW. I can't belive people is getting offended by them.First it's a freaking game, second I find them rather good looking( nicely drawn). The only thing is that I would love to have some cards with goodlooking men on them too...Grrr...Mmmm^^. Just for my own pleasure=).(Not in a bad, playing with myself way. Just for eyecandy)
I guess noone will understand what I want to say, but atleast I've got to vent my feelings a bit=).

//Desh


I understand, and I agree. And I´m jealous. You guys in Sweden not only have some of the best bands in the world (Hammerfall) but also better laws than we. I swear, some day I´ll move to Sweden:)

Oh, and all the blonde girls too... MhmmmB)

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Things I likes to see from TW in DA2: is the hard choises you had to make.

Darkspawn are evil, with little more motivation then the world needs to die.

TW didn't make that choise, all the badies had a motivation, some where with there back against the wall others had paved the road to wickedness with good intentions. Even if you didn't agree there was usualy something that made you sympaties with them to a certain lvl.

The fact Gerald himself was watched with both awe and suspicion helped as well.



No one was realy outspoken evil and most of al nobody was outspoken good.

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Pedrak wrote...

Rage, point taken about acting - and yes, it can be intriguing to try to get under the skin of a fixed character, like Geralt. But creating your char and then playing him is an even richer experience - after all, they say the greatest dream of all actors is being able to choose the roles they want... Posted Image


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Pedrak wrote...
It limits the roleplay - or, better, it forces me to roleplay someone I might not find interesting/likeable/compatible with my personality, or with the personality I want to express in a certain playthrough.

There are great RPGs with a fixed main character. However, creating my own character allows a deeper, more personal experience.


I fail to see how a fixed name and physical appearance limits roleplay. Because, you know, that's everything that's limited on TW, not the personality, for example.


Well, people in the game seemed to have a pretty clear idea of who Geralt was. If they put me in the shoes of a scarred albino macho warrior with a reputation for being the ultimate badass and a womanizer, I suppose I could have tried to play him also, say, as a sneaky, cowardly guy who is shy, humorless and chaste, but it would have felt dissonant. So, in a way, I was pushed to play him as a sarcastic, charismatic, Chaotic Good warrior who had lots of casual sex with scantily clad, curvy maids... not that I'm complaining. Posted Image

He´s not such a womanizer as in the game. He doesn´t miss a chance if he sees it but is no asking all women around for sex. I don´t remember he ever cheated Yennefer either.
I get your point but here being Geralt is the point. It was made by fans for fans.