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[Mycrus Ironfist]

all of this is 'what if' with DA2 close to completion...



i like limits to inventory showed in the witcher.. where you can bring only a certain amt & kind of weapon



but i would like DA2 to have mounts that can 'mule' items for you



in witcher i ended up having to take multiple trips to the bartender just to stow items



some semblance of an alchemy system (although for witcher it got correctly implemented only in the enhanced edition).



combat system in witcher is kind of fun -- though this would not be a fit for party combat.



and finally, i want a DA2 with no happy perfect ending...

[iTomes]

joriandrake wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Solid N7 wrote...

well to the bioware haters kalfear and chopin that don´t like bioware and etc I hope the next year I don´t see you around in this forum people like you don´t deserve to be bioware fans.

And how did i earn the bioware hater title? Or is your chopin reference for someone else?

ignore SN7, he cheers for every change in DA2 that makes the game more like ME2 and boos at everyone who dislike these

and here i was thinking humans were unable to learn . well i guess every theory only exists to be proven wrong, right?

[joriandrake]

Mycrus Ironfist wrote...


and finally, i want a DA2 with no happy perfect ending...

only if there are multiple endings and one of them is the "happy perfect ending"

[Mycrus Ironfist]

AlanC9 wrote...

RageGT wrote...

You guys bad mouthing Fable... have you ever played the game? It is an awesome game with many cool features that were "respectfully" copied by other games afterwards. I really don't know who is clueless when it comes to games.

Let's see, I'm 46 and have played most games that came out since Diablo 1 which was the milestone in cRPG. A good game is nothing other than a game which satisfies the customer. A bad game usually has lousy controls, cameras, gameplay, story, acting, graphics and stability. Tell me which of these applies to Fable.

I found Diablo so boring I didn't get past the demo, actually. So I guess Fable was better than that.

o'common... when diablo came out it blew away any game of that era...  i have been playing games since KQ1

[TMZuk]

RageGT wrote...
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Let's see, I'm 46 and have played most games that came out since Diablo 1 which was the milestone in cRPG......

If Diablo was an RPG, then I guess Starcraft was a space-simulation. Diablo had next to nothing in dialogue, options, choises or any other RP element. It was Hack Slash Stab Hack Hack Hack Slash Burn Hack Slash Stomp Slash.....

Perhaps if it had been sold as "Groo the Barbarian the RPG", I'd accept it as an RPG, but even Groo had more humour than Diablo.

[Mycrus Ironfist]

joriandrake wrote...

Mycrus Ironfist wrote...


and finally, i want a DA2 with no happy perfect ending...

only if there are multiple endings and one of them is the "happy perfect ending"

well bioware will have to satisfy all spectrums of the market

[Mycrus Ironfist]

TMZuk wrote...

RageGT wrote...
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Let's see, I'm 46 and have played most games that came out since Diablo 1 which was the milestone in cRPG......

If Diablo was an RPG, then I guess Starcraft was a space-simulation. Diablo had next to nothing in dialogue, options, choises or any other RP element. It was Hack Slash Stab Hack Hack Hack Slash Burn Hack Slash Stomp Slash.....

Perhaps if it had been sold as "Groo the Barbarian the RPG", I'd accept it as an RPG, but even Groo had more humour than Diablo.

it was an RPG for that era... we didn't have "choice" back then (well maybe except for the Ultima series)...

[TMZuk]

Mycrus Ironfist wrote...

TMZuk wrote...

RageGT wrote...
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Let's see, I'm 46 and have played most games that came out since Diablo 1 which was the milestone in cRPG......

If Diablo was an RPG, then I guess Starcraft was a space-simulation. Diablo had next to nothing in dialogue, options, choises or any other RP element. It was Hack Slash Stab Hack Hack Hack Slash Burn Hack Slash Stomp Slash.....

Perhaps if it had been sold as "Groo the Barbarian the RPG", I'd accept it as an RPG, but even Groo had more humour than Diablo.

it was an RPG for that era... we didn't have "choice" back then (well maybe except for the Ultima series)...

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Obviously you never played Darklands.

[Mycrus Ironfist]

wyvernix wrote...

 I guess. Here's hoping that DA2 brushes up on the more "darker" elements it's predecessor claimed to have.

yup yup - i want stories that earn the M rating...

but remember that children die in DA:O -- that should be dark enough for anybody.

[Mycrus Ironfist]

TMZuk wrote...

Mycrus Ironfist wrote...

TMZuk wrote...

RageGT wrote...
.........

Let's see, I'm 46 and have played most games that came out since Diablo 1 which was the milestone in cRPG......

If Diablo was an RPG, then I guess Starcraft was a space-simulation. Diablo had next to nothing in dialogue, options, choises or any other RP element. It was Hack Slash Stab Hack Hack Hack Slash Burn Hack Slash Stomp Slash.....

Perhaps if it had been sold as "Groo the Barbarian the RPG", I'd accept it as an RPG, but even Groo had more humour than Diablo.

it was an RPG for that era... we didn't have "choice" back then (well maybe except for the Ultima series)...

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Obviously you never played Darklands.

nope i haven't -- well let's just say that in the 90s, I was living in a country that did not exactly have free access to all games.

[joriandrake]

Mycrus Ironfist wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Mycrus Ironfist wrote...


and finally, i want a DA2 with no happy perfect ending...

only if there are multiple endings and one of them is the "happy perfect ending"

well bioware will have to satisfy all spectrums of the market

this is one ofthe few things ME2 did right, with the suicide mission everyone can decide for their own who they want alive or dead, but even there are some people who complain that the game even has a superb ending where everyone survives, I seriously don't get how some people are thinking

[elearon1]

When I played ME2 the first time I was a bit disappointed at how easy it was to get everyone out of there alive; I had wanted more tough choices like the Ashley/Kaiden thing in the first game. My second playthrough I purposefully refused to do certain loyalty missions and such just so the people I didn't care about would have a better chance of dying.



I don't mind the fact that you could basically determine who died and who didn't, I just wish X number of people would have been required to die so in the end there was always some tragedy to the story.

[joriandrake]

elearon1 wrote...

When I played ME2 the first time I was a bit disappointed at how easy it was to get everyone out of there alive; I had wanted more tough choices like the Ashley/Kaiden thing in the first game. My second playthrough I purposefully refused to do certain loyalty missions and such just so the people I didn't care about would have a better chance of dying.

I don't mind the fact that you could basically determine who died and who didn't, I just wish X number of people would have been required to die so in the end there was always some tragedy to the story.

I like that there was no "feel of tragedy" forced upon the player if prepared properly for the mission

[DragonRageGT]

TMZuk wrote...

RageGT wrote...
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Let's see, I'm 46 and have played most games that came out since Diablo 1 which was the milestone in cRPG......

If Diablo was an RPG, then I guess Starcraft was a space-simulation. Diablo had next to nothing in dialogue, options, choises or any other RP element. It was Hack Slash Stab Hack Hack Hack Slash Burn Hack Slash Stomp Slash.....

Perhaps if it had been sold as "Groo the Barbarian the RPG", I'd accept it as an RPG, but even Groo had more humour than Diablo.

You sound like you're talking about Diablo 2. I was talking about Diablo 1.  And there was enough story book stands, NPC with dialogues, quests, level ups, inventory, increasing loot quality and action to make it a very solid action-rpg for those days. One that has been copied a lot and has a mplayer that is played up to this day! And a story that has Baldur's Gate as a spin off! That should say something about D1.

Now, from The Witcher, one of the things I love is the scares! I mean, I've finished a good number of times and still those Crypts in chapter 4 still give me the goosebumps. And I'm with a level 31 witcher, capable enough of killing all in Hard mode with a very good char built and advanced alchemy. But the music, the atmosphere, the darkness even with a Cat potion, the bats, the lesser and greater ghouls, vampires and wraiths that jump out of the floor or off the roof... it's non-stop goosebumps and while I don't run from any fight, I just wished that Dragon Age:Origins could have something like that.

The Elven Ruins had potential but spiders, skeletons and one Arcane Horror were far from getting that deep sense of Fear and Courage which is going ahead despite of the Fear. (Or not. Just turn away and get the hell out of there!) And I don't think we'll be seeing it in DA2 either.

[AlanC9]

Mycrus Ironfist wrote...

AlanC9 wrote..
I found Diablo so boring I didn't get past the demo, actually. So I guess Fable was better than that.

o'common... when diablo came out it blew away any game of that era...  i have been playing games since KQ1

Good for you.

I've played worse things than D1. I did finish the demo after all, and if I got the whole game for free I might have played further. But I saw absolutely no reason to pay for any more of the same.

[AlanC9]

slimgrin wrote...
I consider Diablo a milestone in gaming as well. It influenced a lot of developers. 8 hrs in, and I had enough, but Diablo is a game that was easy to pick up and really get into. If it had better story, more varied maps to explore, and less redundant click and attack combat...I can only hope Blizzard has improved Diablo 3 - making it more of an rpg than a click fest.

Oh, I agree that it was a milestone, absolutely. Milestone != good.

[Kenrae]

I found D1 boring too, I only liked the cutscenes.



And my first cRPG was Dark Hearts of Uukrul. Quite older than D1.

[Addai]

slimgrin wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Doesn't seem like an RPG to me.  Gameplay feels pretty much like Modern Warfare did, though not as fast paced.

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??  What?  Go there, kill those guys, pick up that weapon, go over there and kill those guys, cutscene... what is different about it?  The fact that he has sex in between?

^Crazy talk.

You're comparing a first person shooter with an in depth story-based rpg. They're not even the same genre. And you're obviously put off by the fact that Geralt has sex in the game...madness!

How much of TW have you actually played?

I'm not put off.  I said it was the most entertaining thing about the game.    How it's implemented doesn't exactly help me take the game seriously, though.

I said I played several hours.  Leveled twice, got to the village where you meet the monsters and tooled around there for a while, lost interest in the game.

This is what you call in depth?  Okay.  Modern Warfare has a story, too.  I don't care what genre you want to put it in, the actual experience of playing the game was less entertaining than MW.

Modifié par Addai67, 05 août 2010 - 03:33 .

[Addai]

iTomes wrote...

Addai67, whatever the creepy voice inside of you tells you: talking about a game you obviously didn't play doesnt make you smart. unless, of course, trolls are smart. but thats something i hardly doubt because otherwise they already would've built theyre own homes and could finally quit living under bridges.

Hey, but at least they have a grasp on English grammar.  Maybe you could learn something.

[Zjarcal]

Addai67 wrote...

iTomes wrote...

Addai67, whatever the creepy voice inside of you tells you: talking about a game you obviously didn't play doesnt make you smart. unless, of course, trolls are smart. but thats something i hardly doubt because otherwise they already would've built theyre own homes and could finally quit living under bridges.

Hey, but at least they have a grasp on English grammar.  Maybe you could learn something.

Bravo!

[Kenrae]

Addai67 wrote...
I'm not put off.  I said it was the most entertaining thing about the game.    How it's implemented doesn't exactly help me take the game seriously, though.

I said I played several hours.  Leveled twice, got to the village where you meet the monsters and tooled around there for a while, lost interest in the game.

This is what you call in depth?  Okay.  Modern Warfare has a story, too.  I don't care what genre you want to put it in, the actual experience of playing the game was less entertaining than MW.

That's like... 5% of the game at most. You can't talk about the depth of a game you've played 5% of.

[Addai]

Kenrae wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
I'm not put off.  I said it was the most entertaining thing about the game.    How it's implemented doesn't exactly help me take the game seriously, though.

I said I played several hours.  Leveled twice, got to the village where you meet the monsters and tooled around there for a while, lost interest in the game.

This is what you call in depth?  Okay.  Modern Warfare has a story, too.  I don't care what genre you want to put it in, the actual experience of playing the game was less entertaining than MW.

That's like... 5% of the game at most. You can't talk about the depth of a game you've played 5% of.

I realize that, but I'm not going to spend hours and hours trying to delve into a game that has given me nothing to care about.  Every author knows you grab your readers on the first page, in the first paragraph if possible.  Nor do I see it as roleplaying when all I control is Geralt's combat moves.

Anyway, as this is apparently a thread about how great the game is, I won't rain on the parade any longer.

[AlanC9]

I just wish Addai67 had explained how TW's prologue is any weaker than, say, a DA origin.

[Estelindis]

Mycrus Ironfist wrote...
i want a DA2 with no happy perfect ending...

Now, this I could take or leave.  I appreciate the dramatic value of the various shocks and surprises of DA:O's end game.  However, the first time I played DA:O, the ending I finally got left me sad and angry for about two days afterwards.  When I then replayed taking various choices, and discovered that there was literally no way my city elf could preserve everything/everyone she valued/loved, I can't say I was too impressed.  There is something to be said for happy endings - at least, for the possibility of a happy ending, if certain choices are made.

I realise this is somewhat at odds with the idea that DA2 should be darker than DA:O, but I don't think it's entirely out of keeping with the dark fantasy archetype to finally be able to win through, against all odds, with major suffering along the way.

[Addai]

AlanC9 wrote...

I just wish Addai67 had explained how TW's prologue is any weaker than, say, a DA origin.

I cared about my character in Origins.